Skip to comments.Bernie Goldberg to O’Reilly: Tea Partiers Are the Real RINOs in the GOP
Posted on 11/12/2013 12:10:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Bernard Goldberg joined Bill OReilly Monday night to address what he believes is a potentially fatal split in the Republican partys immediate future. He said that if the tea party keeps rejecting anyone who isnt basically Ted Cruz for the 2016 presidential nomination, the partys going to be in some big trouble and invite in a strong Democratic victory.
OReilly framed the fight as a classic moderate Republican versus hard-right Republican feud, and Goldberg rejected the ideological rigidity of people who will sit on their hands and refuse to vote for a Republican presidential nominee if they arent sufficiently conservative enough. And this is what led Goldberg to accuse these tea partiers of being the real RINOs in the GOP.
As far as the tea partiers are concerned, anybody to the left of Ted Cruz is a RINO but you know what? The real RINOs are the real people in the tea party and on the hard right, because they have made it clear over and over again that their allegiance is not to the Republican party, but to their particular brand of conservatism, so theyre the RINOs.
OReilly suggested Cruz, if he ran, could rally the nation behind him if Obamacare continues to be a disaster, but Goldberg said anything short of horrendously bad will not be enough to help them. He also warned that if someone like Cruz gets the nomination, every registered Democrat will vote, and thats a recipe for a Democratic victory?
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M’Gawd that’s just stoopit.
The Republican Party is dead. It committed suicide by rat poison.
Better get someone in to cart off the carcass before it stinks up the house.
The positions of the Tea Party are within the Republican platform while RINO’s are not.
The GOP has become a “straw man” for Democrat/Progressives. Bernie Goldberg is speaking for the Vichy-Republicans again. We tried it with the Moderate “electable” people and we got Mitt, John McCain and Bob Dole—maybe, we need to try something new. Now they are pushing Christie down our throats as the Only guy who can beat Hillary or who ever the Democrats come up with. If we are going to lose to the Democrats—lets try Ted Cruz and Mike Lee? Trump and Palin? Lets not let the Carl Roves and Goldbergs or Krauthammers pick our people again! I say we bolt the party and switch to another! Whigs? Conservative, Reform, etc...
“...Goldberg rejected the ideological rigidity of people who will sit on their hands and refuse to vote for a Republican presidential nominee if they arent sufficiently conservative enough.”
Hmmm... Aren’t these elected folks SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT the PEOPLE VOTING for them????????
These idiots have it turned around 180 degrees! -We’re supposed to vote them in to let THEM tell US how it is!
Time for the pitchforks, people!
That's tagline material right there...
Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics: all politics in America is not local but ultimately racial. Since the Democrat party is really a collection of interest groups it is not so dependent on arriving at either a candidate or a platform which embraces all its adherents. African-Americans will vote in the 90 percentile for the Democrat candidate whenever the chips are down, the Chris Christie election in New Jersey to the contrary notwithstanding. The model to watch is the Terry McAuliffe victory in Virginia.
Add to the African-American block the Hispanic block, the public service unions, the gays, the Jews, unwed females with children, and you have a formidable and virtually unshakable coalition.
In addition to this factor, the Democrat party maintains discipline through its finances. That is particularly clear among elected Democrat officials. David Horowitz has demonstrated in his blog, Shadow Government, that much of this money is controlled by very few hands and two of those hands belong to George Soros. A maverick Democrat politician faces a dubious future indeed if bucks this system. Not only will he be be defunded for reelection but he will find himself in the wilderness looking in vain for a sinecure.
On the Republican side we see Karl Rove trying to impose the same kind of discipline on behalf of Rinos and we see grassroots resistance that is not apparent in the Democrat party. In fact, the Democrats are able by bully tactics to extort money from what used to be Republican supporters, such as Wall Street and now Main Street.
So we have grave lack of discipline on the Republican side coupled with a vulnerability because the party is not built on blocks but built retail on individuals.
Bernie Goldberg commits the sin of most media types, he equates by resort to relativism the Rinos and the Tea Party. The Rinos have been in control of the party for years and they have consistently lied to the base and disdained the base. Which brings us to the next problem which faces Republicans, whether Rino or Tea Party.
The media will consistently portray the Republican Party as extremist and they will consistently portray the tea party as the extremist wing of the Republican Party. They will not, for example, describe Barack Obama as a radical Marxist. There is clearly an unequal treatment of these players in the media which manifests itself, for example, in permitting the Democrats to choose the issues upon which the election will be decided. So we have the Virginia gubernatorial election decided on the issue of condoms.
The media will do the same to Tea Party candidates as it does to Republican candidates generally. Consider that the media uniformly presented to the public the fixed conclusion that it was the Republicans and especially Ted Cruz and the Tea Party who shut down the government.
On this tilted playing field the Tea Party must prevail against the Rinos and then prevail against the Democrats and that is a daunting prospect. The media, like Bernie Goldberg, create much of the problems described here and then label The Tea Party as radical because it will not submit to them.
Which would be the brand of conservatism that intends to destroy communists that just stole the middle class taxpayers disposable income via Obamacare, the CPUSA, and anybody who is allied with them, including the parasites that vote for them and their fellow travelers in both parties.
These DC insiders have no idea of the shitstorm on the horizon.
Eff the commies and smash the system that lets them run roughshod over American values
Anyone who isnt prepared to go to DC to fight the the communists is a sworn enemy of the working taxpayer and must be destroyed.
That includes the GOP-e greedy blue blood country clubbers and their greedy pulled back wives, and any other sorry son of a bitch who thinks campaign commercials are going to beat those who intend to go to DC not to work with the communists and reform the syetem, but to destroy the communists and smash the system.
IN THE U. S. A.
The first of a series on the Communist conspiracy and its influence in this country as a whole, on religion, on education, on labor and on our government
^^No Communist, no matter how many votes he should secure in a national election, could, even if he would, become President of the present government. When a Communist heads the govern- ment of the United States and that day will come just as surely as the sun rises the government will not he a capitalist government hut a Soviet government, and hehind this government will stand the Red army to enforce the dictatorship of the proletariat,
Sworn statement of WILLIAM Z. FOSTER
Head of the Communist Party in the United States
If you ever find yourself in open debate with a Communist the facts here given can be used to destroy his arguments completely and expose him as he is for all to see.
Every citizen owes himself and his family the truth about Com- munism because the world today is faced with a single choice: To go Communist or not to go Communist. Here are the facts.
1 . What is Com-munism? A system by which one small group seeks to rule the world.
2. Has any nation ever gone Communist in a free election?
No. 3. Then how do the Communists try to get control?
Legally or illegally, any way they can. Communisms first big victory was through bloody revolution. Every one since has been by military conquest, or internal corruption, or the threat of these.
CONSPIRACY is the basic method of Communism in countries it is trying to capture.
IRON FORCE is the basic method of Communism in countries it has already captured.
1 2. What would happen to my insurance? The Communists would take it over.
34. Where are their headquarters in the United States, and who is in charge?
Headquarters are at 35 East Twelfth Street, New York City. Wil- liam Z. Foster, of 1040 Melton Avenue, New York City, has the title of Chairman of the Communist Party of the United States, but Foster is actually just a figurehead under control of foreign operatives unseen by and unknown to rank and file Communists.
55. What is the emblem of the Communist Party in the United States? The hammer and sickle.
36. What is the emblem of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union? The hammer and sickle.
57. What is the flag of the Communist Party in the United States? The red flag, the same as that of all Communist Parties of the world.
49. What kind of people become Communists?
The real center of power in Communism is within the professional classes.
Of course, a few poor people respond to the Communist claim that it is a working class movement.
But taken as a whole the Party depends for its strength on the sup- port it gets from teachers, preachers, actors, writers, union officials, doctors, lawyers, editors, businessmen, and even from millionaires.
This primary season has to be about drawing lines and targeting GOP-E that is willing to work with the communists and turning the primary into a referendum on communists and their fellow travelers in the GOP.
Grassley will work with communists and needs to go.
Playing nice with the reds is no longer to be tolerated.
The whole RNC/GOP Washingtonian political class in DC needs to be decimated, this is revolution.
These people are delusional. Dont they see the GOPe already handed the democrates the antiracism card, the economy card under Bush1, the legal welcoming immigration card and a host of other things the GOP lost in credit via welfare for all.
The GOPe now plays bad cop for the left and for the right. The GOPe fails in playing bad cop for the left only and good cop for the right. They are imploding.
The media would do well to think about why it became subservient to one side.
It was the whip of islamic slaughter as much as the carrot of establishment baksheesh.
At one point, the whip will rule the day.
Speaking of Vichy.....I was just thinking about how they are almost at the stage of Capos.
“The first of a series on the Communist conspiracy and its influence in this country as a whole, on religion, on education, on labor and on our government”
The words of Nakita are ringing true:
“You Americans are so gullible. No, you wont accept communism outright; but well keep feeding you small doses of Socialism until you will finally wake up and find that you already have communism. We wont have to fight you; we will so weaken your economy until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands.
Well, where is the Aw Geez guy when you need him?
It's all our fault because we want a candidate who even gives a scrap of hope that someone will pay attention the the Constitution?
Well, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for most anything.
OK, so let's leave the Republicrat Party. Let the fans of Jerry Ford, George Bush, and Dick Nixon have it. To hell with them.
I can tell O’Reilly and Goldberg that this lifelong Republican will NO LONGER VOTE IN ANY ELECTION. I’m through with this country and if i could take all my assets and go somewhere else, I’d do it.
All I know is that right now, people like Goldberg, O’Reilly, Rove and all the rest of the GOPe are ringing some bells that can’t be unrung.
If they want to lose several million conservatives right off the bat, just keep it up. They’ll have to work all the harder appeasing illegals, gays, minorities and ‘independents’ just to make of the difference - if they could even do that.
Frankly, I’m sick of all of them. I just know I’m not going to vote for one again.
I reject the ideological rigidity of Jonah, GOP and "moderates" who will sit on their hands and not support anyone who does not pass the liberal purity test. Ken Cuccinelli being the latest example.
I reject the ideological rigidity of Bernie, GOP and "moderates" who will sit on their hands and not support anyone who does not pass the liberal purity test. Ken Cuccinelli being the latest example.
Very impressive narrative. Someone is bright eyed and wide awake at this ungodly hour.
I've been keeping my eye out for another country as well.
“...and you have a formidable and virtually unshakable coalition.”
Yes, right up until the guys writing the checks every tax quarter stop doing so...And that is what it is going to take to “shake” them.
Fear God - Not Man!!
Your base is gone.
Obviously, by the continuous attacks upon them, the Tea Party has a ligiment place in politics and pose a huge threat to the survival of the RINO’s and also the demodummies. No doubt, the Republican party is a thing of the past and no longer demonstrates what they were originally founded for. The Rino’s need to be replaced by people who will once again forge conservatism.
Right now, the only thing holding the Tea Party back is a common leader and that person will soon surface, its just a matter of time.
Just think of the possibilities......
Time for ALL conservatives to RUN for the exits vis a vis the Republican party...let the RINOs try to attain power in competition with a truly conservative party...they wouldn't stand a chance.
On a side note - other than talk radio and Free Republic, I have heard nothing on how the GOPe did not support the conservative in Virginia. Actually helped the dem. Reminds me of the scene in the movie Signs, where Mel Gibson is trying to explain Gods will and coincidence to his brother. At the end he states - we're on our own. That is how I feel.
Stay in the Party and at least vote in the primaries. That is where you can be the biggest nuisance to the GOPe. If your guy doesn’t win in the primary blow off the general.
Another faker exposed.
My rule of thumb is that where a pundit or pol stands on Sarah Palin is a good indicator as to whether they are conservatives at all—or the usual GOPe-type fakers.
By that measure, Bernie Goldberg was actually exposed at least as far back as 2010:
The biggest threat to the UniParty are the primaries....
I have often said that RINO is an inaccurate term. When Conservatives see Republicans acting like Republicans instead of being conservative we call them RINOs. They aren’t Republicans in Name Only, they are real Republicans. That’s how Establishment Republicans are-—always. If you want to insult some mushy, middle of the road moderate call him a Republican not a RINO. In that sense oldberg is correct, Conservatives are RINOs. They call themselves Republican because there is no viable alternative party, but they are actually Conservatives. This Conservative would like to abolish the term RINO and replace it with the term Squish.
Sorry Bernie, but watch this conservative sit on his thumbs if the Fat Man is the nominee. No more Dem Lites for me. None. Never again. I'll choose the Samson Option over the GOPe.
It’s Bernie, not Jonah.....Jonah is Lucianne’s son
O'Reilly allows/encourages talking excrement heads like Bernie to say junk like this!......just furious
THIS is their meme till the election.....Ted Cruz...far right....can't win the election.
This is the path 'they' will go down and this is the path to destruction.
Who needs shrill Democrat talking heads when a Bernie Goldberg will do....(or is he Democrat too)
“of people who will sit on their hands and refuse to vote for a Republican presidential nominee if they arent sufficiently conservative enough.”
The part that sticks out: “if they arent sufficiently conservative enough” could better be written as: “if the are traitorous democrat wannabe’s”.
Just why in the hubs of hell would any rational person want to vote for someone trying to be the identical twin of their enemy??????
The Democrats crucify anyone straying from their ranks, why can’t conservatives?
Another sidenote to Krispy Kreme. What these two idiots - BOR and Goldberg - fail to take into account is the New York press. I bet anyone a dollar to a donut that the NY Times has a file on Christie about as thick as he is. They will cheer him on for the nomination and once he gets it, all kinds of excrement will hit the fan. He will not know what hit him. They did the same thing to that guy Bush put up for DHS Secretary - the guy who was head of NY Police. The NY press probably does this all the time.
In the *moment* a new party is established, with Cruz or Palin or both on the ticket, the GOP is history. And so, for that matter, are the dems.
And as luck would have it, the new party establishment infrastructure has already been set in place, with Palin’s State campaign orgs, which have probably not been completely idle.
Better use what you have, gents, while you still have the freedom to vote. It will be gone soon enough.
I've been saying this for a while now. The term "RINO" is not accurate. The vischy republicans own the republican party. Squishy, socialism-lite is what the party "stands" for. The people we oppose are actually "CINO", that is Conservative In Name Only. Folks like McCain, or Perry talk up their 'conservativeness' in the run up to elections, then switch back to form once the election is over.They are republicans, but CINO. Anyone who was paying attention to Virginia will know that the republican party is not on our side, and never really has been.
When you look hard enough, it all comes down to crony capitalism. Both sides play this games, because it makes them millionaires. The leviathan government that has been thrust upon us exists because in such a government, it is easy to reward your friends and punish your enemies. Look at Obama. He has taken crony capitalism to an extreme, yet the vast majority haven't even noticed.
“Tea Partiers Are The Real Rinos In The GOP”
I don’t take issue with that particular statement, because it’s correct. What does “RINO” stand for, anyway? “Republican In Name Only.” Well, we know what the GOP is: a bunch of statist quislings. We have nothing in common with them, and we are, in fact, conservatives, not Republicans. THEY are Republican, not conservative.
As I have said before, either a new third party or primary all RINOs. If the RINOs still win, vote for the DEMOCRAT. This will guarantee a loss for the RINOs. The Conservatives will now control the smaller Republican party and can shape it how they want.
We must play hardball. Change is hard, but you have to START before you can win.
One wonders if we need to rename Fox News, Republican News.
Call me whatever you want, but seems like it might be sinking in finally.
That is good tag material.