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Honest: Would You Rather Win with Chris Christie or Lose with Ted Cruz?
Jewish World Review ^ | November 12, 2013 | Bernard Goldberg

Posted on 11/12/2013 5:18:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Those sophisticates at Time magazine made a funny. They put Chris Christie on their cover with the headline, "The Elephant in the Room." Get it? Elephant. Christie. Time magazine did a junior high fat joke right there on its cover. Time's executive editor Michael Duffy explained the cheap shot this way: "Well, he's obviously a big guy. He's obviously a big Republican. But he's also done a really huge thing here this week."

The "huge thing" wasn't only winning re-election as New Jersey's governor, but doing it by appealing to a broad range of voters in a very blue state — not just to his conservative base.

But, hey, no harm no foul. Time isn't even a newsmagazine anymore. It became a liberal journal of opinion a long time ago. So you can just hear those wild and crazy journalists at Time sitting around the conference room table giggling about how they'd get away with their fat joke because, well, in the world of politics, the word "elephant" isn't a synonym with "fatso."

But do you think the gang at Time would ever say Barack Obama is a "dark horse." In the world of politics "dark" doesn't mean "black," right?

Time's cover doesn't necessarily mean that Chris Christie is the GOP frontrunner for 2016. It's way too early for that....

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: New Jersey; Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; banglist; chrischristie; christie2016; cruz; cruz2016; krispykreme; rinos; teaparty; tedcruz
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1 posted on 11/12/2013 5:18:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

False question from Goldberg.

Crispy is the same as the previous RINOs who have lost.

Cruz represents the base and middle class America. He has a MUCH better chance to beat HEILry.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 5:21:11 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about win with cruz? The last two times the rinos lost.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 5:21:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Krispy Kreme is unelectable for national office.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 5:21:50 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, Christie is creepier than I had imagined.

Cheap scare tactics.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 5:22:09 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right.

Don’t fight back.Go with the flow.

That is what cost the Jews a few million of their kin.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 5:22:23 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take WIN with Ted Cruz...


7 posted on 11/12/2013 5:22:28 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going with Cruz. I prefer to go down fighting rather than kissing @$$ to win.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 5:23:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaCare! What a country!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christie can’t win. He’s the GOP nominee selected by the Democrats.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 5:24:25 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Win what, exactly?


10 posted on 11/12/2013 5:24:39 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The question makes no sense Christie will never win the GOP nomination without the same people who voted for McCain and Romney....Cruz has a chance.
Ok Christie will probably run as a dem anyway. So when are the FRers going to say....but he is the only guys who can win

11 posted on 11/12/2013 5:25:17 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: driftdiver

That’s the answer Brother. I would rather win with Cruz.

The RNC and the New Hampshire Yankees are not going to pick my candidate this year.

I will write in a candidate first.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 5:25:35 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I forgot to add:

What sells in NJ politics is not going to sell in most of the US.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 5:26:18 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like his question is a very subtle form of desperation.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 5:26:22 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would rather never hear another word from Bernie.


15 posted on 11/12/2013 5:27:28 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Ruling Class pawns sure are going all-out to push Krispy Kreme down our throats.

They seem to forget that the USA ain’t Joisey.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 5:27:38 PM PST by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m so sick of politicians.


17 posted on 11/12/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, dumb question because Christie has no chance at even the nomination.

Sure, everybody is enthralled with is acerbic wit, but some have reservations about his political IQ and some will be looking for payback for throwing Romney an anvil instead of life preserver during Romney’s final day’s of campaigning.

Walker, governor of Wisconsin is the better selection. He can energize the base enough to run a superb ground game. Christie took about 3% of people who would have shown up and voted for him and turned them into ‘no way’ voters. 3% of people who vote is HUGE, and also a guestimate on my part.

The only people Walker has alienated has been Liberals.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 5:29:47 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there going to be a pie eating contest or something?


19 posted on 11/12/2013 5:30:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll be like the many who stayed home rather than vote for Romney if Christy is running.


20 posted on 11/12/2013 5:30:20 PM PST by DungeonMaster
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To: driftdiver

3 if you count Dole


21 posted on 11/12/2013 5:30:36 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t like to play identity politics, but IMHO if we don’t run a woman, we’ll lose.


22 posted on 11/12/2013 5:31:04 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christie has no chance to win, he is already the designated loser according the GOPe and MSM


23 posted on 11/12/2013 5:31:29 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dem crossover votes will push Christie over the top in the primaries.


24 posted on 11/12/2013 5:31:40 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t consider a win with Christie to be any sort of a win at all.


25 posted on 11/12/2013 5:32:43 PM PST by Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, I would not.


26 posted on 11/12/2013 5:33:04 PM PST by sport
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To: Huskrrrr

Which would mean we’d have to agree on a Conservative candidate early on. Fat chance, given what I saw here in 2012.


27 posted on 11/12/2013 5:33:24 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d rather win with Cruz. Winning with Christie is still a huge loss.


28 posted on 11/12/2013 5:33:42 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Venturer

Which require picking a candidate early in the primaries and getting them through. Last two times the pickings were muddled which spread support.If cruz or palin throw in I’ll back them agressively.


29 posted on 11/12/2013 5:35:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Christie doesn’t do something about his physical condition, he may not make it to another election.


30 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:07 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Huskrrrr

I do wonder if we will really have a free election


31 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:11 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If voting for a “Moderate” which is just another cute word for “Leftist” Romney or McCain would have won easily, but the didnt do they Bernie..in fact, they got their asses kicked..what did Romney gain, North Carolina..the Dems had already abandoned NC because of gay marriage..we still lost because we keep on picking these cheesy leftists who go around pretending to be Conservative when they are in fact phonies


32 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:14 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Honestly, would you rather agree with me or die a long painful death. Your choice.


33 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

like losing with McCain and Romney? Let’s try running a stinkin conservative for a change!


34 posted on 11/12/2013 5:37:10 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Moonman62

Thats why the Dems voted for him in New Jersey, they were probably laughing their asses off as they voted for him..they knew that by Christie winning, it raises his status as the 2016 nominee, which is what they want


35 posted on 11/12/2013 5:37:13 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Honest: Would You Rather Win with Cruz or Lose with Fatso?


36 posted on 11/12/2013 5:38:19 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not buying the false premise from the GOP-E again.

You want to win GOP, then put up a Conservative for President.

Period!


37 posted on 11/12/2013 5:39:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps a better way of putting the question would be:

Would you rather vote for Christie who might be able to defeat Hillary in 2016, or vote for a conservative candidate who represents your ideology much more closely, but has absolutely no chance to win?

The question being posed really seems to be “Hillary or Christie?” Because unless a lot of things change, Christie (or Jeb, or whomever ever GOP-e decides on) will be the candidate.


38 posted on 11/12/2013 5:40:58 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
I don’t like to play identity politics, but IMHO if we don’t run a woman, we’ll lose.

If we're going to play that game the only way we can win is with a mixed race asian/hispanic/black/transgender/lesbian/bhuddist/transgender/wiccan "woman".
39 posted on 11/12/2013 5:41:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Moonman62

Christie won because we had McGreavy and Corzine to benchmark him. Those two were so bad the people of New Jersey elected a straight tough talking guy who has been better so they reelected him.

He can win a presidential race. But he doesn’t have the principles the purists want. He is not a reincarnation of Ronald Reagan. But he is a smart guy who knows how to get things done. He has some personal baggage but who in the game of politics doesn’t?

He would be better than any other moderate Republican and more driven than the likes of Cruz and Paul.

If he wants it he’ll convince enough Republicans to vote for him and he would beat any likely Democrat candidate. He wouldn’t let the Disaster of Obama and even the cronyism of the Clintons go unmentioned in a presidential race.

He’s not a nice guy but he’s a winner.


40 posted on 11/12/2013 5:42:04 PM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they’re already trying to shove Christie down our throats! He’s the next in the line of Dole, McLame, Romney losers that ensure the dems win.


41 posted on 11/12/2013 5:43:23 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: old curmudgeon
What sells in NJ politics is not going to sell in most of the US.

No, no, you don't understand he's really, really a severe conservative. He just has to be that way or he'd never get elected in Massa New Jersey.

or

You just don't understand politics. You're too much of a puritan and so now, that you didn't vote for a socialist, we are going to be stuck with a socialist in office for four more years - good going.

or

Well, I know he support abortion, gay "marriage," and is anti-gun.....but, but Reagan would've been called a rino on FR too, ya know.

or

sometimes you just have to vote for the lesser of two evils

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Don't worry, someone will be buy with another quart of snake oil to sell.

42 posted on 11/12/2013 5:43:42 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christie can go to hell!!!

No more North Easterners ever!


43 posted on 11/12/2013 5:43:44 PM PST by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Christie-—not under any circumstances.


44 posted on 11/12/2013 5:44:04 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: cripplecreek
"Is there going to be a pie eating contest or something?"

LOL

45 posted on 11/12/2013 5:44:49 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What Mitt Romney learned about Chris Christie in 2012 and why it matters for 2016

The press is hoping Christy gets nominated precisely so they use this stuff against him.


46 posted on 11/12/2013 5:44:58 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is "losing" and there is "losing."

There are also more ways to lose than merely one!

This sound just like every statement by the Establishment GOP since it ran Bob Dole right through Mitt Romney.

No thanks Mr. Goldberg!

I'm not crawling in bed with political whores anymore, for the sake of "winning" according to you LOSER prognosticators!

47 posted on 11/12/2013 5:45:06 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Put a harness on the boy, a Schrader valve in his @ss, fill him with helium, and send him off to the Macy’s parade...


48 posted on 11/12/2013 5:46:22 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: JeanLM
He’s not a nice guy but he’s a winner.

You can for for the fat slobtard but Conservatives won't. There will never be another RINO/GOPe president.

49 posted on 11/12/2013 5:46:59 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: SoConPubbie; All
You want to win GOP, then put up a Conservative for President.

Then let's agree on a Conservative candidate now and begin promoting that person and building the necessary coalition for a victory. Any suggestions?

50 posted on 11/12/2013 5:47:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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