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Should Republicans Help Democrats Fix Obamacare?
PJ Media ^ | 11-13-2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 11/13/2013 1:24:23 PM PST by Sir Napsalot

The GOP can't remain on the sidelines while the country burns.

If the argument over Obamacare could be confined to the political arena, it would be a no-brainer to say that Republicans should sit back and watch the Democrats stew in their own juices as the law implodes.

But we are far past the point of simple politics. The rollout of Obamacare has thrown the United States into an unprecedented crisis. Unprecedented because it has been caused by the monumental hubris of the Democratic Party, which actually believed it could legislate reform for one-sixth of the U.S. economy without ghastly unanticipated consequences. And the crisis is unprecedented because ....

(snip) It would be wonderful for Republican prospects in 2014 to ignore all of this, stand on a soap box, and rail against the villains who brought this crisis upon us. It would also be grossly irresponsible. Some Republicans appear to be resisting that temptation and are trying to work with Democrats to pass some Obamacare “fixes” that would deal with at least some of the problems that have created the crisis. ...... Is it time for Republicans to dust off the “repeal and replace” option and work to sub out most of the Obamacare legislation?

(snip) The political risk to Republicans of staying on the sidelines while the country burns is just as great as the risk to Democrats of doing nothing. People are angry, frightened, and confused. It’s time to show the voters that the Republican Party is worthy of governing by acting responsibly in the face of a serious crisis not of their own making. Voters aren’t stupid. They will know whom to blame for this fiasco.

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1 posted on 11/13/2013 1:24:23 PM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot
The GOP can't remain on the sidelines while the country burns.

Why not? The democrats and Obama (and much of the republican establishment) kept reminding us during the shutdown that we couldn't do anything because "we only controlled one half of one branch of government). So why should we be expected to rush in and pull Obama's feet out of the fire. Let Obama and the democrats figure out how to get out of the mess on their own.

2 posted on 11/13/2013 1:27:06 PM PST by apillar
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To: Sir Napsalot

No. Repeal it or let it die.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 1:27:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

It is their one chance. Let the whole system collapse under Demorat control.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 1:27:41 PM PST by anton
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To: Sir Napsalot

Total repeal is the only sure fire way to fix this mess. Dems alone voted for this the Repubs would be foolish to help in any way.


5 posted on 11/13/2013 1:28:03 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Just repeat:

0bamaDontCare is bad for America and Americans. It should be repealed ASAP.

6 posted on 11/13/2013 1:28:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot

The House should pass a repeal bill every day of the week until pressure on Dems causes them to sign onto it. Period.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 1:28:39 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If the GOP lays its hand on so much as a single hair on the head of this monster, the entire mess will be laid directly on top of them forever by the MSM and democrats.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 1:28:44 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Should Republicans Help Democrats Fix Obamacare?

Hell no! The RATS bought it lock, stock and barrel.Let them sink with it. Recall Pelosi and her comment about passing it and then finding out what’s in it. We must keep the House and add to the Senate and Obamacare is the key


9 posted on 11/13/2013 1:29:06 PM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No. Shitcan the mandate. Period.


10 posted on 11/13/2013 1:29:24 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Sir Napsalot

#RepealIt


11 posted on 11/13/2013 1:29:25 PM PST by Washi
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To: Sir Napsalot

All the republicans who were consulted on the creation of obamacare, whose ideas were used and whose vote helped pass it should pitch in to help fix it


12 posted on 11/13/2013 1:29:47 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yes, they should, because Republicans are STUPID.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 1:30:27 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If by “fix” is meant, throw it out and promise never to walk that path again...
Yes, fix away.


14 posted on 11/13/2013 1:30:46 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No, they should drive a stake into it and kill it.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 1:30:52 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
NO!
GOP - Stay out of the way!
REPEAL!

16 posted on 11/13/2013 1:31:14 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

F no.


17 posted on 11/13/2013 1:31:14 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Sir Napsalot

Don't Fix it,
NIX IT!!!


18 posted on 11/13/2013 1:32:23 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: kenmcg
" Recall Pelosi and her comment about passing it"

America is finding out what's in 0bamaDontCare and it's 100% pure Smelly 0bama.

Make Nazi eat it.

19 posted on 11/13/2013 1:32:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot

If the GOP wants to help, repeal it and lets do something else all over. Otherwise, sometimes a clean slate works better than patchwork.


20 posted on 11/13/2013 1:32:41 PM PST by dforest
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To: Sir Napsalot

Simple answer is no


21 posted on 11/13/2013 1:33:06 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Sir Napsalot
Let the Dims die at the empty water hole.

Of course....I expect the Pubbies to cave at every turn.

22 posted on 11/13/2013 1:33:09 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That is the only way Republicans should help Democrats with this mess.

Repeal it or go with it. Exactly how it is now.

No rebuilding. tear it down and start over.


23 posted on 11/13/2013 1:33:39 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

There is only one fix that will work. Repeal.


24 posted on 11/13/2013 1:35:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

They were already given a chance to keep a good chunk of government shut down until it was defunded.

There is no “fix” for this. This IS socialized medicine and this IS broken at its foundations so terribly that it is beyond reckoning.

There is no fix. It must be repealed. It must be stopped permanently. If anything less is done, the damage that Obamacare is about to wreak on our lives, my family’s lives and my life personally will be monumental.

Only a repeal, and one that happens within weeks of today will spare us from the terror and hell of what would happen if we needed serious medical care starting next year.

All this was not “necessary.” As broken as the medical system WAS prior to passing Obamacare, most of us could still barely get coverage where we could somehow barely survive the deductibles. Now? No. There is no plan we can sign up for that has deductibles or out of pocket that we can afford if the need arose.

Essentially, whether we are signed up or not, we don’t have insurance.

Our old plans? The one’s we still can keep for another month or two? It works.

It isn’t “broken.” “Broken” implies it can can be fixed. There is nothing there to fix. Nothing in this monstrosity that will help one person without doing great harm to a hundred others.

Toss it. Toss it now before it’s too late.


25 posted on 11/13/2013 1:35:48 PM PST by Advil000
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To: Sir Napsalot
Cue Nancy ......

We have to REPEAL the bill because we have FOUND OUT WHAT'S IN IT!

26 posted on 11/13/2013 1:37:58 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Jim Robinson
My head will explode if I hear one more republican talk about delaying obamacare. Why would they want to delay it and let the democrats off the hook for the next election. This is the democrat party and obama’s signature plan, let it take them down.
27 posted on 11/13/2013 1:38:07 PM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Elections have their consequences. I was called a racist for telling the truth.

How many conservatives voted for this Debacle?

28 posted on 11/13/2013 1:39:45 PM PST by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: All

the bill they ought to vote on in the house should be called ..”Keep Your Plan and Your Doctor Act: The Repeal Of The ACA”

make the democrats vote against a bill that has in the title “Keep Your Plan and Your Doctor” but is actually a total repeal of the law ....get them on record voting against that ....


29 posted on 11/13/2013 1:41:40 PM PST by thestob
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To: Sir Napsalot
I'm conflicted on this one.

On one hand, if the pubbies DO lend a hand to these incompetent libturds, it might help save an obamanation that should have been strangled in its crib. If it DOES survive with the pubbies help, the no/low info dummies and obozo worshipers out there will never hear about that and again feel warm and fuzzy about their savior, keeping them alive for '14 & '16.

On the other hand, if the pubbies stay on the sidelines while the thing collapses, taking millions of families with it, the libturds and their handmaidens in the MSM will turn it into banner headlines and blame the pubbies.

My suggestion for the pubs is to GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND GET THEIR SENSIBLE, FREE-MARKET PLAN OUT THERE AND PUSH LIKE HELL!

That said, I've expressed what I'd LOVE to happen so long as the sensible members of Congress don't take the rap for what really is a another libturd travesty for which THEY should take ALL THE HEAT!

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30 posted on 11/13/2013 1:42:11 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
And if Boehner does anything except introduce and pass repeal bills, he is as much of an idiot as Obama and the Dems, because once you try to "fix" this, you own it, too.

He should be standing at a podium in front of cameras every single day telling reporters, "We knew this would happen. We tried to warn people this would happen. We passed bills that would keep it from happening that not one Democrat voted for. So to Obama and Reid I say, 'Call me when you're ready to end the American people's suffering.' Until then, we will not entertain any idea or bill that does not provide for a full repeal of this Democrat-created monstrosity."

31 posted on 11/13/2013 1:42:16 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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Should Republicans Help Democrats Fix Obamacare?

Republicans "should" fix it ONLY IF we continue to pretend Obamacare is actually about healthcare reform. Just like those oh-so-helpful Republicans who's trying to work with Democrats right now to 'fix it', and Rick Moran (author of the article).

Moran has not laid out a plausible reason for ANY Republican to work to 'fix' Obamacare.

32 posted on 11/13/2013 1:42:48 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Fix it? Hell No!

Republicans should be out there every chance reminding Americans:

“We told you this was going to happen. We told you when the Democrats shoved it down your throats - on a party line vote. We told you during the election. We told you when we wanted to put a 1-year hold on it & were accused of shutting down the government. But you chose to listen to President Liar. Remember this in 2016 when the Democrats start feeding you a bunch of new lies.”


33 posted on 11/13/2013 1:43:20 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Sir Napsalot

All the republicans who were consulted on the creation of obamacare, whose ideas were used and whose vote helped pass it should pitch in to help fix it


34 posted on 11/13/2013 1:44:25 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Republicans need to be seen as helping the American Citizens out of this nightmare of an Obamacare scam. They just can’t step aside and let citizens drown. Repubs need to get out in front of those Dems trying to save their seats in the next mid term election. Don’t let the Dems take credit for saving people from Ocare.


35 posted on 11/13/2013 1:44:47 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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36 posted on 11/13/2013 1:46:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No. Anything that happens after the GOP touches this tarbaby (can I say that?) will be their fault. Leave it to the ‘Rats.


37 posted on 11/13/2013 1:47:28 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Sir Napsalot
There is a benefit to allowing people to suffer if it will finally convince a majority of Americans that the government cannot solve all of their problems, reversing the trends of the last 75 years.

The GOP should hammer the statist mentality that spawned this ridiculousness, and hammer Obama because statism defines his administration.

Then they should propose burning Obamacare completely to the ground and, determined to rely on the market as much as is practicable, deal with the obvious problems with the old system piecemeal, one at a time and with separate and distinct legislative proposals.

38 posted on 11/13/2013 1:47:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Affordable Health Care Act is the government sanctioned looting of America’s health-care system and wealth.

Just as you wouldn’t negotiate with looters, wouldn’t ask them to please only take some stuff, to please consider coming back in a few months, the Republican party has to stand unified against this atrocity.

No one will be able to instantly fix the damage that these Marxists have done to our health-care system and economy, but the only way to eventually set things right is to be level with the American people, and perhaps to bear a bit of short-term pain.


39 posted on 11/13/2013 1:48:24 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: Sir Napsalot

NO.
It is not fixable.
It was wrong from the start.
Let it fail and scrap it and start over.


40 posted on 11/13/2013 1:51:49 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The privacy issues alone should kill it dead. Add in felonious ‘navigators’ and web hacks and you have gang grene.


41 posted on 11/13/2013 1:56:15 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Hell no!


42 posted on 11/13/2013 1:57:23 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Stingray
And if Boehner does anything except introduce and pass repeal bills, he is as much of an idiot as Obama and the Dems, because once you try to "fix" this, you own it, too.

Boehner must have sent away for his free bottle of "Ageless Male" testosterone supplement. He just took a stand against the immigration reform stand, saying it's DOA in Congress.

Maybe he's starting to grow a pair. Hopefully, maybe they won't shrink back up into his body before he shows leadership on this, and digs his heels in.

43 posted on 11/13/2013 1:58:24 PM PST by Kenton
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

I wonder if the Republican funded this mess including the IRS crazies? YES.


44 posted on 11/13/2013 1:59:04 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Republicans need to remind Americans everyday that the Democrat Party passed this bill sight unseen and that not one single Republican voted for Obamacare. They should then vote for co,mplete repeal in the House every day.


45 posted on 11/13/2013 2:02:42 PM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: Sir Napsalot
The GOP message should be that trying to patch this complicated and arcane law would more than likely create more unintended consequences that would harm more Americans.

The best course is to repeal it in it's entirety; elect responsible people to start from scratch, and use the mistakes of the previous administration to get it right from the beginning.

Trying to fix this by patchwork is bad politics and bad policy.

46 posted on 11/13/2013 2:05:08 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If 1 Dem Senator voted against this we wouldn’t have it. Now 14 of them are whining about it because they are up in 2014. Let them twist in the wind.


47 posted on 11/13/2013 2:05:42 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Sir Napsalot
What do FReepers think?

With regard to the idea of the GOP helping the Dems I'm probably in the minority but here is what I think:

Many if not most Dems and certainly the President are willing to let the American public suffer under Obamacare in order to preserve the Obama Legacy, whatever is left of it.

Many Republicans and most Freepers are willing to let the American public suffer under Obamcare in order to preserve the GOPs chances to win the Senate and hold the House in 2014.

I have a problem obviously with the Dems postion. But I also have problem with the GOP/Freeper position since it also results in the American public suffering.

Since I'm against suffering and against helping any Dem I believe that the GOP should offer the following "Help":

They should put forward the "Ted Cruz Memorial Obamacare Repeal Act of 2013". It's the only help the Dems deserve.

48 posted on 11/13/2013 2:05:49 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Sir Napsalot

They should help the Rats by offering them one-way flights to North Korea or Nigeria. Deport them all to the hellhole they are trying to create here.


49 posted on 11/13/2013 2:08:51 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Sir Napsalot

The American Soviet Party created this festering bolus of a law, so do not soil your hands trying to “fix” this rancid pile o’ feces. Do not give the Left any pretext for blaming you when this ramshackle mess flies apart. For the Social Democrats, “Bipartisan” means “political cover for us to blame our opponents for our errors.”


50 posted on 11/13/2013 2:12:20 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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