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David Plouffe to ABC: GOP Plan to Run Against Obamacare an ‘Impossibility’
Mediaite ^ | November 17, 2013 | Evan McMurry

Posted on 11/17/2013 5:49:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

On This Week With George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning, former Obama advior David Plouffe dismissed the comparisons between the second terms of President Barack Obama and former President George W Bush—who have similar approval ratings at comparative points in their presidencies—and also argued that Republicans would be unable to run against Obamacare once it’s working.

Guest host Martha Raddatz had asked if the troubled Affordable Care Act rollout was a “political Katrina,” an analogy that’s been making the rounds.

“First of all there’s a qualitative difference between people dying in New Orleans and people not able to get health care,” former Bush advisor Matthew Dowd said. “But from a political standpoint it’s eerily similar to President Bush in the fall of 2005.”

“I disagree,” Plouffe responded. “I think Iraq was going on, which was getting more and more unpopular, the economy was beginning to soften. It’s hard in these feeding frenzies in Washington to have perspective.”

“But where could we be in four or five months?” Plouffe continued. “Hopefully the website is working fine and people are enrolling for health care. Hopefully, we won’t have another Washington dysfunction—which is one of the reasons people are upset, it’s not just health care—and we pass a budget and move forward, and the economy continues to strengthen. So we could be in a much different place three, four months from now. No doubt this is challenging time, but I think you have to have some perspective here. The story could change.”

“The political notion that next year’s election, or 2016, the Republican platform is going to be getting rid of health care?” Plouffe continued. “Millions of people will be signed up. It’s an impossibility.”

Watch the full clip below, via ABC News:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2014; democrats; obama; obamacare
Why? Because martial law will be declared before then? And how did President Bush bring about Hurricane Katrina?
1 posted on 11/17/2013 5:49:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he’s already counting on the 30 to 50 million illegals who will be eligible to vote in 2014 under their Freeway to the Big Pinata Act.


2 posted on 11/17/2013 5:51:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Repeal ObamaScam NOW!!!)
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3 posted on 11/17/2013 5:52:23 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is not about a website. This is about lying and destroying people’s health care.


4 posted on 11/17/2013 5:52:28 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well we’ve probably got at leasttwo election cycles before anyone will say itworks anything close to “well”.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 5:53:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“there’s a qualitative difference between people dying in New Orleans and people not able to get health care”

One is a natural force, act of God, and the other a deliberate act of man.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 5:53:11 PM PST by Ray76
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait until we see the bailouts for insurance industry for their shortfalls when the signups themselves fall short. If people losing their insurance and seeing their rates go up 40-200% don’t do it, that surely will. I predict that will drive Americans absolutely batty. Nothing being certain, I suppose.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 5:56:53 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 posted on 11/17/2013 5:56:59 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow. Go out on a limb. "We could be in a much different place three, four months from now."

As for the impossibility of getting rid of Obamacare, history is littered with wrong political advisers.

9 posted on 11/17/2013 5:57:39 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: KC_Conspirator
This is not about a website. This is about lying and destroying people’s health care.

This is about tyranny, destruction of our country, and destroying what freedoms we have left.

It's our duty to destroy the enemy. By whatever means possible. So be it.

10 posted on 11/17/2013 5:58:01 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The plan is for millions of people to be assimilated by the midterms. that has always been the plan.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 5:58:27 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Phew. I’m glad Plouffe let us know what strategy not to employ next year; it could’ve been a disaster! Thanks for looking out for us, Plouffe!


12 posted on 11/17/2013 6:00:55 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

David Plouffe to ABC: GOP Plan to Run Against Obamacare an ‘Impossibility’

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Translation: The Democrats are absolutely terrified of the idea.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 6:01:20 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberalism is a mental illness.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 6:03:37 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 11/17/2013 6:04:56 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave
0KillerCare

"The president's specific words: I'm “really good at killing people,” "

16 posted on 11/17/2013 6:10:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If they can get , those who don't pay anything for Obamacare, or thanks to subsidies pay next to nothing, then those millions will simply vote for those who will continue to provide this benefit, along with their other benefits.

That is the whole point of this phase of the rollout, to get as many people signed up for more entitlements as possible. Of course, eventually it will all shift to single payer, which is the ultimate goal, but by then the left will have a death grip on the Federal Government and all 3 branches.

17 posted on 11/17/2013 6:12:54 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

If they can get millions signed up, specifically .....


18 posted on 11/17/2013 6:13:53 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: spokeshave
Tearful Brain Cancer Patient Loses Health Plan Due To Obamacare

Yeah, but she get free birth control.

19 posted on 11/17/2013 6:14:57 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: unixfox

Your words, not mine.


20 posted on 11/17/2013 6:16:24 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plouffe continued. “Hopefully the website is working fine and people are enrolling for health care.”

Another example of allowing the dhimmicraps to control the terms of the debate. People are NOT enrolling for health care. They are NOT EVEN ENROLLING for HEALTH INSURANCE, which is the stated purpose of the insane ACA, AKA 0bama(don’t)Care.

Whole lot of ground between health insurance and health care, as the American sheeple are about to discover.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 6:16:24 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cue the concern trolls in the Legacy Media: “If the GOP knew what was best, they wouldn’t touch ObamaCare with a 10 foot pole during the ‘14 elections!”


22 posted on 11/17/2013 6:18:41 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>> Republicans would be unable to run against Obamacare once it’s working. <<

Yep, liberals are still living in their fantasy world.

23 posted on 11/17/2013 6:30:19 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When millions of people kicked out of their employer provided insurance in 2015 and forced into osamacare, they will have nowhere else to turn for health insurance.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 6:45:30 PM PST by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the chairman’s mark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “…it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.”(Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)


25 posted on 11/17/2013 6:46:45 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: KC_Conspirator
This is not about a website. This is about lying and destroying people’s health care.

Exactly! We have got to get off the website talking points because when the site is fixed, Obamacare won't be.

The website was like a sharp pain that the doctor manages to control with medication. Later they find out the pain was just a symptom of the deadly cancer brewing beneath the surface, unseen.

Fixing the website cannot in any way fix Obamacare, not a single part of it.

26 posted on 11/17/2013 7:17:26 PM PST by Kenny
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To: PubliusMM

My tag line has said so for about two years now!


27 posted on 11/17/2013 7:20:05 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: PubliusMM

My tag line has said so for about two years now!


28 posted on 11/17/2013 7:20:39 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L

“...we could be in a much different place...”

A place that has bars...PRISON. Criminal liars and thieves.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 7:36:56 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait and see, Plouffe.


30 posted on 11/17/2013 8:07:45 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and also argued that Republicans would be unable to run against Obamacare once it’s working

Some pretty huge assumptions there buddy....


31 posted on 11/17/2013 8:28:02 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: TBP

[Wait and see, Plouffe.]

Is Plouffe the original Poofter?


32 posted on 11/17/2013 8:45:07 PM PST by Islander2
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To: Kenny

I am glad that someone gets the big picture.


33 posted on 11/17/2013 11:58:05 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plouffe besides being poof, is sounding like Tokyo Rose after our Navy destroyed their Navy.


34 posted on 11/18/2013 11:09:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (You can keep your doctor, health plan, and this is only a cold sore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing is impossible. We can just dump people off their crappy Obamacare plans, Mr plouffe. That is how it is done isn’t it?


35 posted on 11/18/2013 11:13:09 AM PST by dforest
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