Skip to comments.All 10 Republicans visiting Iowa 'are players' for 2016
Posted on 11/22/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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We need to change our nomination process. This bit about giving Iowa and New Hampshire so much clout is insane, and keeps on producing sub-standard candidates.
Palin is not going to run
Lee is not going to run
Huckabee is sure as hell not going to run
Brown is not going to run
Paul definitely will
Walker definitely will
I say 5 primary dates in 10 states on a rotation would work.
2 North, 2 south, 2 west coast, 2 east coast, and two central states on each primary date with the states being chosen by lottery in an off year.
Why wasn’t the elephant in the room (Christie)?
He has no hope of winning Iowa any way. Expect to see him roll into New Hampshire soon though.
“Why wasnt the elephant in the room (Christie)?”
The door wasn’t big enough.
Hah; that was too easy!
Christie is the wrecking ball and John McCain is the twerker.
Palin, Lee and Huckabee will not run.
Ryan and Santorum will likely not run
Perry might run
Cruz, Paul and Walker will likely run.
Bush and Christie will almost certainly run
Forgot Brown; he will likely run
How did they get Governor Christie to speak?
By greasing his hips and ‘Tokyo train shoving’ him through the doorframe.
Paul Ryan should go to Mexico and run, then all of the illegal aliens he is trying to give Amnesty to can vote for him!
Please tell me Newt is not gonna run!!
Christie came up through NJ politics. it would be easier to crawl through a sewer pipe and come up clean than become NJ governor and remain clean. The dems already have the goods on Christie and are eager to position him for the republican nomination so they can spring the trap
Christie is the new mccain/dole/romney
useless in an real fight, there to placate the elites and drive by media.
conservatives need to solidify FAST behind ONE, and unite behind that candidate in order to purge the rinos.
I appreciate the post and of course I’m as interested as anyone but talk about distractions. I honestly think the biggest distraction the left pulls is the Presidential election. No one can resist following them and we tend to get off track.
As Hannity said last night, not the nuclear option, nothing is going to get him off Obamacare. I’m with hime.
They were out of peanuts?
Can somebody, anybody convince Perry NOT to run? That whole Shooting Star-to Plummeting Meteor was embarrassing and time consuming. For him, I get the feeling it’s a Vanity Project. Perry (and the missus)has too much Texas sized personal pride to let the Marathon-Debates be the last way the American Public remembers him, one tooth grinding Brain-Freeze after another. Please, Please, No Mas! Put your support behind Walker of Wisconsin, now THAT is where the smart money should go to! Ryan may be too timid in the debates.
Palin probably will not run, but she has my full support if she does and would be a great president.
Lee is not going to run, as you say, for another four years.
Huckabee is sure as hell not going to run and will not have my support if he does, in part because he is such a weak candidate.
Brown is not going to run and is too liberal for me.
Cruz might and is okay.
Ryan might and is okay.
Santorum might but is too weak a candidate.
Perry might but is not a strong national candidate (look at his last election).
Paul definitely will and makes me nervous but might be a good president.
Walker definitely will and would be a good president.
Yeah, exactly. Some question whether Walker is running. I think he will because there’s an opening. You have conservative senators running, and a liberal governor in Krispy. He can essentially run as the governor to Christie’s right.
Out of these, assuming Palin and Cruz are too conservative for maistream America, I am in the Rand Paul camp. I feel he can unite the conservatives, the libertarians, and the RINOs.
Ryan, Huckabee, Santorum and Brown are not going anywhere. I don’t think Sarah’s going to run.
Walker and Perry are both good governors.
It’s hard to see any of the rest gaining enough traction to make it out of the gate. There’s still a long, long time to go until we can roust the Obamanauts.
Perry’s gearing up to run.
Winning the Senate and strengthening the House majority are critical in the short run. Obama can be stopped out if that happens and the Dems know it. Obama will do all it takes to defeat us and we have to be doubly ready. The GOP GOTV machine is hobbled. Romney utterly failed to make it work. We need to tech up.
Rand Paul already has his dad's nationwide grass roots organization ready to go, without his dad's crazy.
Correct, it would be easy for Freepers to fight them on twitter whatever, basically what we do here.
I think our younger guys, Cruz, Rubio, Lee, could help on social media. Very much needed if we are to have a chance. I know that last election, it was wall-to-wall leftists and if you dared to oppose them you got unfollowed whatever. Obama and his minions didn't just take to the airwaves, they dominated them.
That’s a good idea.
And sh!tcan the endless debates with journ-0-list moderators.
Rand’s stance on immigration is going to Albatross him. We need immigration reform, not open borders.
Rands stance on immigration is going to Albatross him. We need immigration reform, not open borders.
The same applies to Walker.
Just say NO to any legislation that contains the word “comprehensive”! Reform of any existing laws needs to be accomplished in incremental steps; not as a total package.
I suspect that Perry will be pushed to run by anti-Cruz forces in order to dilute the Texas support.
I think that’s a great plan. But it’s not going to happen because the people who decide those things won’t allow it to happen. Money to be made and all...screw the actual voters.
Living out here in WA state...would be so nice if our state was in play. I would like my vote to count...
I think Palin and Cruz will start out both running.
Both will (carefully) monitor how voting goes early on.
Whomever is going to lose, will drop out and throw their support completely to the other.
This is my prediction:
Palin / Cruz ( or Cruz / Palin ) 2016
Gotta get tea partiers out to the state conventions so they can choose RNC committeemen. As far as I know only Dave Agema from Michigan is a tea partier on the RNC. Terri Land is the other committeeman and is also tea party friendly (She’s running for the senate seat being vacated by Carl Levin next year)
Its the sad thing about it. Conservatives can’t be bothered to do the little things that have major effects. The RNC sets policy and in Michigan a total of 1500 votes were cast at the state GOP convention.
There isn’t a reason to believe that “comprehensive” is bad. We’re going to have to compromise. No independent bills on immigration will be passed and signed by the President. The political reality is that America is diametrically split on immigration issues. The practical party will win on the national level.
"Comprehensive" is a code word for "amnesty".
Yeah, it's bad.
If Perry runs they'll say he's been fitted with Google glasses so he won't have any more brain freezes.
I know he was recovering from back surgery. Unfortunately for him, that was his "Macaca" moment, and they'll never let him outlive it.
We have de facto amnesty right now. So the status quo is amnesty. There will be another amnesty no matter what. Removing 11 million people isn’t practical. That’s the political reality. That’s the loaf of bread we have to work with.
What items are absolute for conservatives? I’d say a tight southern border, no welfare for illegals (blacks would be good allies here and the GOP needs them) and no more birthright citizenship. If your parents are illegal, you’re an illegal and you never can get citizenship.
Those three solve most of the problem. Fines, taxes, etc. are already acceptable to the Dems. If you do the border legislation correctly you can make the state and the Feds jointly responsible. That will end the Federal hanky panky in immigration law. Let the border states deal with it and political needs will drive the enforcement.
We need to control our borders, and need to stop referring to Rand as either a conservative or a Republican.
They can try, but Perry’s a savvy politician. His state is utterly booming and, you’ll note, he’s not talking social issues, but economic. The way to win the POTUS is on economic issues - jobs, cutting red tape, getting us growing again. Perry’s solid on those items. He also brings Texas into the mix. That means he gets the best brains across dozens of critical industries. Energy is critical to economic success, along with a reasonable regulatory environment. Perry beats Hillary for sure.
A Perry/Walker ticket would be very hard to beat. The public is ready. I believe we’re at a Reagan moment. No matter what we need a Republican in the WH and a GOP Congress.
How very odd. You insist on being "realistic" in our expectations. Yet, the above expectation is even more unlikely than mass deportation.
No it isn’t.
Sorry, but the Democrats won't settle for anything short of a path to citizenship. There's absolutely no point in their creating 10-15-20 million dependents if they can't cast a ballot.
If you believe a "comprehensive" immigration solution is both achievable and desirable, citizenship comes with the package.
And that's a "problem", isn't it?
the millions of illegals don’t need to cast ballots their offspring and their offspring’s kids will cast ballots as us citizens
we are insane to allow anchor babies as US citizens.
Ah, you misunderstand me. The current proposal by Luis Guttierez applies to only 8 million illegals and includes fines, taxes and a formal path to citizenship. As part of that deal you end birthright citizenship going forward. You can’t fix it as is, but you can alter the future.
1. Gutierrez has split with the Dem leadership over the issue. His influence is likely nil.
2. Liberal judges will reject any statute that ends birthright citizenship, claiming it unconstitutional. A constitutional amendment would probably be required to end the practice.
Gutierrez' plan is going nowhere.
For the Democrats, there is only one satisfactory outcome to the immigration issue: Votes. Any outcome short of that leaves them with a wedge issue they can hammer the GOP with -- and, to them, that's the 2nd best outcome.
Net:net, there's no point in the Republicans passing any immigration bills until such time as they control the House, the Senate and the Presidency -- so that the process can start with heightened border security.
Even if you could get a Gutierrez bill in the meantime, there is no assurance that this administration would do anything about border security. You simply can't trust them to do what they are required by law to do.