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All 10 Republicans visiting Iowa 'are players' for 2016
The Des Moines Register | November 22, 2013 | Jennifer Jacobs

Posted on 11/22/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20131122/NEWS09/311220100/?odyssey=nav%7Chead


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; chrischristie; gop; iowa; lping; palin; randpaul; tedcruz
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1 posted on 11/22/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: All

Link to article:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20131122/NEWS09/311220100/?odyssey=nav%7Chead


2 posted on 11/22/2013 2:35:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to change our nomination process. This bit about giving Iowa and New Hampshire so much clout is insane, and keeps on producing sub-standard candidates.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 2:40:30 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dumb article

Palin is not going to run
Lee is not going to run
Huckabee is sure as hell not going to run
Brown is not going to run

Cruz might
Ryan might
Santorum might
Perry might

Paul definitely will
Walker definitely will


4 posted on 11/22/2013 2:41:52 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Yossarian

I say 5 primary dates in 10 states on a rotation would work.

2 North, 2 south, 2 west coast, 2 east coast, and two central states on each primary date with the states being chosen by lottery in an off year.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 2:44:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Viennacon

Why wasn’t the elephant in the room (Christie)?


6 posted on 11/22/2013 2:53:38 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

He has no hope of winning Iowa any way. Expect to see him roll into New Hampshire soon though.


7 posted on 11/22/2013 2:55:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Jess Kitting

“Why wasn’t the elephant in the room (Christie)?”

The door wasn’t big enough.

Hah; that was too easy!


8 posted on 11/22/2013 2:55:22 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Christie is the wrecking ball and John McCain is the twerker.


9 posted on 11/22/2013 3:03:46 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Viennacon

Palin, Lee and Huckabee will not run.

Ryan and Santorum will likely not run

Perry might run

Cruz, Paul and Walker will likely run.

Bush and Christie will almost certainly run


10 posted on 11/22/2013 3:03:48 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: be-baw

Forgot Brown; he will likely run


11 posted on 11/22/2013 3:05:47 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

How did they get Governor Christie to speak?
By greasing his hips and ‘Tokyo train shoving’ him through the doorframe.


12 posted on 11/22/2013 3:07:21 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Viennacon

Paul Ryan should go to Mexico and run, then all of the illegal aliens he is trying to give Amnesty to can vote for him!

Please tell me Newt is not gonna run!!


13 posted on 11/22/2013 3:08:57 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the AmeriHealth BenefitsOn this pacan Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Jess Kitting

Christie came up through NJ politics. it would be easier to crawl through a sewer pipe and come up clean than become NJ governor and remain clean. The dems already have the goods on Christie and are eager to position him for the republican nomination so they can spring the trap


14 posted on 11/22/2013 3:11:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Jess Kitting

Christie is the new mccain/dole/romney

useless in an real fight, there to placate the elites and drive by media.

conservatives need to solidify FAST behind ONE, and unite behind that candidate in order to purge the rinos.


15 posted on 11/22/2013 3:14:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I appreciate the post and of course I’m as interested as anyone but talk about distractions. I honestly think the biggest distraction the left pulls is the Presidential election. No one can resist following them and we tend to get off track.

As Hannity said last night, not the nuclear option, nothing is going to get him off Obamacare. I’m with hime.


16 posted on 11/22/2013 3:23:29 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Jess Kitting
Why wasn’t the elephant in the room (Christie)?

They were out of peanuts?

17 posted on 11/22/2013 3:31:55 PM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can somebody, anybody convince Perry NOT to run? That whole Shooting Star-to Plummeting Meteor was embarrassing and time consuming. For him, I get the feeling it’s a Vanity Project. Perry (and the missus)has too much Texas sized personal pride to let the Marathon-Debates be the last way the American Public remembers him, one tooth grinding Brain-Freeze after another. Please, Please, No Mas! Put your support behind Walker of Wisconsin, now THAT is where the smart money should go to! Ryan may be too timid in the debates.


18 posted on 11/22/2013 3:44:39 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Viennacon

Palin probably will not run, but she has my full support if she does and would be a great president.
Lee is not going to run, as you say, for another four years.
Huckabee is sure as hell not going to run and will not have my support if he does, in part because he is such a weak candidate.
Brown is not going to run and is too liberal for me.

Cruz might and is okay.
Ryan might and is okay.
Santorum might but is too weak a candidate.
Perry might but is not a strong national candidate (look at his last election).

Paul definitely will and makes me nervous but might be a good president.
Walker definitely will and would be a good president.


19 posted on 11/22/2013 3:47:33 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Yeah, exactly. Some question whether Walker is running. I think he will because there’s an opening. You have conservative senators running, and a liberal governor in Krispy. He can essentially run as the governor to Christie’s right.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 3:50:09 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Pollster1

Out of these, assuming Palin and Cruz are too conservative for maistream America, I am in the Rand Paul camp. I feel he can unite the conservatives, the libertarians, and the RINOs.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 3:59:21 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ryan, Huckabee, Santorum and Brown are not going anywhere. I don’t think Sarah’s going to run.

Walker and Perry are both good governors.

It’s hard to see any of the rest gaining enough traction to make it out of the gate. There’s still a long, long time to go until we can roust the Obamanauts.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 4:32:52 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Viennacon

Perry’s gearing up to run.


23 posted on 11/22/2013 4:35:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kenny

Winning the Senate and strengthening the House majority are critical in the short run. Obama can be stopped out if that happens and the Dems know it. Obama will do all it takes to defeat us and we have to be doubly ready. The GOP GOTV machine is hobbled. Romney utterly failed to make it work. We need to tech up.


24 posted on 11/22/2013 4:37:42 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
It’s hard to see any of the rest gaining enough traction to make it out of the gate.

Rand Paul already has his dad's nationwide grass roots organization ready to go, without his dad's crazy.

25 posted on 11/22/2013 4:41:21 PM PST by Hugin ( More firepower1)
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To: 1010RD
We need to tech up.

Correct, it would be easy for Freepers to fight them on twitter whatever, basically what we do here.

I think our younger guys, Cruz, Rubio, Lee, could help on social media. Very much needed if we are to have a chance. I know that last election, it was wall-to-wall leftists and if you dared to oppose them you got unfollowed whatever. Obama and his minions didn't just take to the airwaves, they dominated them.

26 posted on 11/22/2013 5:04:43 PM PST by Kenny
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To: cripplecreek

That’s a good idea.
And sh!tcan the endless debates with journ-0-list moderators.


27 posted on 11/22/2013 5:07:54 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Hugin; SunkenCiv

Rand’s stance on immigration is going to Albatross him. We need immigration reform, not open borders.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 6:30:34 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Rand’s stance on immigration is going to Albatross him. We need immigration reform, not open borders.
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The same applies to Walker.

Just say NO to any legislation that contains the word “comprehensive”! Reform of any existing laws needs to be accomplished in incremental steps; not as a total package.


29 posted on 11/23/2013 3:01:43 AM PST by octex
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To: Pollster1

I suspect that Perry will be pushed to run by anti-Cruz forces in order to dilute the Texas support.


30 posted on 11/23/2013 7:24:43 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: cripplecreek

I think that’s a great plan. But it’s not going to happen because the people who decide those things won’t allow it to happen. Money to be made and all...screw the actual voters.

Living out here in WA state...would be so nice if our state was in play. I would like my vote to count...


31 posted on 11/23/2013 8:15:03 AM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Viennacon

I think Palin and Cruz will start out both running.

Both will (carefully) monitor how voting goes early on.

Whomever is going to lose, will drop out and throw their support completely to the other.

This is my prediction:

Palin / Cruz ( or Cruz / Palin ) 2016


32 posted on 11/23/2013 8:18:45 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: conservaKate

Gotta get tea partiers out to the state conventions so they can choose RNC committeemen. As far as I know only Dave Agema from Michigan is a tea partier on the RNC. Terri Land is the other committeeman and is also tea party friendly (She’s running for the senate seat being vacated by Carl Levin next year)

Its the sad thing about it. Conservatives can’t be bothered to do the little things that have major effects. The RNC sets policy and in Michigan a total of 1500 votes were cast at the state GOP convention.


33 posted on 11/23/2013 8:28:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: octex

There isn’t a reason to believe that “comprehensive” is bad. We’re going to have to compromise. No independent bills on immigration will be passed and signed by the President. The political reality is that America is diametrically split on immigration issues. The practical party will win on the national level.


34 posted on 11/23/2013 8:40:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; octex
There isn’t a reason to believe that “comprehensive” is bad.

"Comprehensive" is a code word for "amnesty".

Yeah, it's bad.

35 posted on 11/23/2013 8:46:12 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: 1010RD
Perry’s gearing up to run.

If Perry runs they'll say he's been fitted with Google glasses so he won't have any more brain freezes.

I know he was recovering from back surgery. Unfortunately for him, that was his "Macaca" moment, and they'll never let him outlive it.

36 posted on 11/23/2013 8:49:41 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: okie01; octex

We have de facto amnesty right now. So the status quo is amnesty. There will be another amnesty no matter what. Removing 11 million people isn’t practical. That’s the political reality. That’s the loaf of bread we have to work with.

What items are absolute for conservatives? I’d say a tight southern border, no welfare for illegals (blacks would be good allies here and the GOP needs them) and no more birthright citizenship. If your parents are illegal, you’re an illegal and you never can get citizenship.

Those three solve most of the problem. Fines, taxes, etc. are already acceptable to the Dems. If you do the border legislation correctly you can make the state and the Feds jointly responsible. That will end the Federal hanky panky in immigration law. Let the border states deal with it and political needs will drive the enforcement.


37 posted on 11/23/2013 9:25:28 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

We need to control our borders, and need to stop referring to Rand as either a conservative or a Republican.


38 posted on 11/23/2013 9:27:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: COBOL2Java

They can try, but Perry’s a savvy politician. His state is utterly booming and, you’ll note, he’s not talking social issues, but economic. The way to win the POTUS is on economic issues - jobs, cutting red tape, getting us growing again. Perry’s solid on those items. He also brings Texas into the mix. That means he gets the best brains across dozens of critical industries. Energy is critical to economic success, along with a reasonable regulatory environment. Perry beats Hillary for sure.


39 posted on 11/23/2013 9:28:52 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: COBOL2Java

A Perry/Walker ticket would be very hard to beat. The public is ready. I believe we’re at a Reagan moment. No matter what we need a Republican in the WH and a GOP Congress.


40 posted on 11/23/2013 9:30:50 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; octex
...and no more birthright citizenship. If your parents are illegal, you’re an illegal and you never can get citizenship.<

How very odd. You insist on being "realistic" in our expectations. Yet, the above expectation is even more unlikely than mass deportation.

41 posted on 11/23/2013 9:45:35 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

No it isn’t.


42 posted on 11/23/2013 11:27:14 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
No it isn’t.

Sorry, but the Democrats won't settle for anything short of a path to citizenship. There's absolutely no point in their creating 10-15-20 million dependents if they can't cast a ballot.

If you believe a "comprehensive" immigration solution is both achievable and desirable, citizenship comes with the package.

And that's a "problem", isn't it?

43 posted on 11/23/2013 3:25:29 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

the millions of illegals don’t need to cast ballots their offspring and their offspring’s kids will cast ballots as us citizens
we are insane to allow anchor babies as US citizens.


44 posted on 11/23/2013 3:29:54 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: okie01

Ah, you misunderstand me. The current proposal by Luis Guttierez applies to only 8 million illegals and includes fines, taxes and a formal path to citizenship. As part of that deal you end birthright citizenship going forward. You can’t fix it as is, but you can alter the future.


45 posted on 11/23/2013 4:03:47 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
The current proposal by Luis Guttierez applies to only 8 million illegals and includes fines, taxes and a formal path to citizenship. As part of that deal you end birthright citizenship going forward.

1. Gutierrez has split with the Dem leadership over the issue. His influence is likely nil.

2. Liberal judges will reject any statute that ends birthright citizenship, claiming it unconstitutional. A constitutional amendment would probably be required to end the practice.

Gutierrez' plan is going nowhere.

For the Democrats, there is only one satisfactory outcome to the immigration issue: Votes. Any outcome short of that leaves them with a wedge issue they can hammer the GOP with -- and, to them, that's the 2nd best outcome.

Net:net, there's no point in the Republicans passing any immigration bills until such time as they control the House, the Senate and the Presidency -- so that the process can start with heightened border security.

Even if you could get a Gutierrez bill in the meantime, there is no assurance that this administration would do anything about border security. You simply can't trust them to do what they are required by law to do.

46 posted on 11/23/2013 4:39:09 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
You simply can't trust them to do what they are required by law to do.

You win.

47 posted on 11/24/2013 7:44:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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