Skip to comments.White House: Website won’t be fixed by December 1 (Democrats fear the Senate has been lost)
Posted on 11/26/2013 7:26:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Old and busted: Healthcare.gov will be fully operational by November 30th. New hotness: Healthcare.gov will, er, work better than it did by December 1!
Brought to you by the same people who insisted that if you liked your insurance plan, you could keep it:
Obama administration officials said Monday that some visitors to HealthCare.gov will experience outages, slow response times or try-again-later messages in December.
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) delivered the message in the latest attempt to downplay expectations for Nov. 30, the administrations self-imposed deadline for fixing ObamaCares federal enrollment site.
CMS spokeswoman Julie Bataille said errors that persist past this weekend would be intermittent and, in line with a promise made by the White House, would not affect the vast majority of the sites users.
But Bataille acknowledged that some would still experience periods of suboptimal performance by the system due to either heavy traffic or technical issues that are still being addressed.
The system will not work perfectly on Dec. 1, but it will work much better than it did in October, Bataille said.
Speaking of suboptimal performance
The comments came after HealthCare.gov experienced an unscheduled outage on Monday for one hour. The CMS had recently touted the site for not randomly crashing. Bataille said the problem was remedied quickly by the sites tech team.
Lets recall that the pledge last month was specifically that Healthcare.gov would be fully functional by December 1. That date was not an accident. In order to have coverage by January 1, enrollees have to complete their enrollment by mid-December, although the administration is trying to get insurers to wait until December 23rd rather than the 15th as the cutoff. If the web portal still cant handle the enrollments properly and fully by that time and the 834s to the insurers seem to still be a big problem in that regard:
Behind the scenes, when an individual selects a plan, the federal system transmits a file, known as an 834, with all of the relevant information about that individual and his or her plan selection.
These files have been plagued by errors, from spouses and children being mixed up to enrollments being duplicated or inadvertently cancelled. According to HHS, they have completed fixes for two-thirds of the high-priority bugs that our tech team working with issuers identified as being responsible for the issues with 834 transactions and other issuer priorities.
But according to an insurance industry source, though the 834 problems are getting better, there is still a long way to go. Insurers still havent reached the point where they can feel confident that the data is reliable.
As a result, though they have been able to process some payments from individuals, theyve only been able to do so on piecemeal basis in cases where they are fully confident in the data, often because its been verified by hand.
Thats another problem. If the front end starts working better, the deluge of last-minute enrollments to comply with the individual mandate will flood insurers with bad data, which will be impossible to fix by hand in that level of throughput. Lets also not forget that the subsidy-payment system doesnt exist yet, either. This announcement only relates to the consumer experience of Healthcare.gov, not the full functionality. Without the subsidy payments to the insurers, theres still a large question as to whether those subsidy-qualifying enrollees will actually have coverage on January 1 if insurers dont get the full premiums in hand by December 31st, a deadline which now looks impossible to meet.
Democrats pinned their hopes of competing in the 2014 midterms on the Obama administrations ability to deliver on this pledge. Now theyre beginning to realize that theyve hitched their wagons to a failing star:
For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.
Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieus approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryors approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.
The big picture isnt any better: The presidents approval rating, which historically correlates with his partys midterm performance, has dipped below 40 percent in several national surveys. Democrats saw their nine-point lead on the generic ballot in the Quinnipiac survey evaporate in a month, and a CNN/ORC poll released today shows Republicans now holding a two-point lead.
You want to prevent your race from being about Obamacare. If you enable your race to be about Obamacare, youre making a mistake, said Democratic pollster Mark Mellman, whos working for Landrieu. You need to explain what youre trying to fix, and you better be trying to fix something. If theres nothing you want to fix, theres something wrong with you. At this point, its hard to defend the benefits, but you can say were not going back to the evils of the old system.
In the old system, 85% of Americans had health insurance, and 87% were satisfied with their health care. Good luck trying to run on the evils of that system, especially after getting an up-close-and-personal look at DemocratCare.
Quite a trainwreck
Not to worry, Dingy Harry, the Republicans will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Say it isn’t so!!
They'd still have the big O's veto in any event.
“theres still a large question as to whether those subsidy-qualifying enrollees will actually have coverage on January 1 if insurers dont get the full premiums in hand by December 31st, a deadline which now looks impossible to meet”
Looks like Big Insurance will have to accept an IOU from Obama for a while. “I’m good for it, Bro.”
That's all that matters.
Well, it only takes 51 votes to kill it now, right?
Don’t worry our current crop of leftists are the most Whip-Smart BRILLIANT leftists to have ever walked the planet.
Besides, Their dad is a TV repairman, He’s got the ultimate set of tools, They can fix this.....
You know what’s going to happen, now don’t you? Massive voter fraud in the next election. The Dems will be stuffing ballots like crazy. They’re probably already wandering through the nation’s graveyards looking for voters. How do you think Obama got back in?
“Not to worry, Dingy Harry, the Republicans will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”
Beat me to it!
No AR Pryor has lost an election since the summer of 1972. People in AR place a priority on the Pryors.
Haha. The Libs can’t even pull off socialism.
Why is it that your government insists that you file your taxes by April 15th every year under threat of prosecution, but they couldn't get the ObamaCare website running to meet their own deadline under the law?
It has gone from being ready on October 1, to being ready by November 30, to being ready for most users by November 30, to “it won’t be perfect”.
Meanwhile all you businesses and government agencies, go ahead and violate the law. It’s okay because the King has decreed it.
Can someone tell me how the subsidies work? Do you get a check every month? Every year? How do you compel people to use the money for insurance? Does it only exists on paper?
For example, the site tells me I get a $100 subsidy on a $400 premium. Do I really get that money? Does the site just tell me to only pay $300?
It’s not their fault, it’s those means Republicans who keep demanding that it actually work. If it wasn’t for them it could have been declared a success two months ago and nobody’d be the wiser. Well.. okay there’d be the people who’d not been able to get a policy, but the ones that complained could have been handled by calling them teabagging racists.
That's all that matters.
What a rich irony that Obamacare has Cloward-Piven-ed itself.
Works just like Amazon! Roflol...
Yeah, right! I have received dozens of packages (most in less than two days & free shipping) and the healthcare crap system hasn’t even work all day for one day yet!
We are eligible, but we are not taking it. I refuse to get on Obama's dole.
It’s more of a subsidy to Insurance on your behalf. Uncle Sam send 100 bucks to Blue Cross, which along with your 300 pays the premium.
When Captain IT told Congress that the “payment mechanisms” hadn’t been built yet, that’s what he was referring to. Right now there’s no way for Uncle Sam to give Blue Cross their 100 bucks.
That’s why people are wondering if they’ll actually have coverage starting Jan 1st. If you send your 300, but that 100 is sent accidentally to Iran, who decides if you’re really covered? The better question is, other than you, does anybody really care?
Here’s hoping that’s a “Forever Stamp”.
I don't know who writes this crap!
By next year the media will have everyone believing that Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz paid hackers to mess up Obama's website and the dems will pick up seats.
“It has gone from being ready on October 1, to being ready by November 30, to being ready for most users by November 30, to it wont be perfect.”
It will be tested and functional the day after the Twelfth of Never.
Isn’t this the time when Alynsky would advise overloading the system with phone calls to make them live up to a standard they can’t abide by. Millions of phone calls, and repeat calls back.
“These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.”
I like those odds... but you always have to factor in Tokyo Rove.
Why? Has Mitch threatened to quit.
They'd still have the big O's veto in any event.The Dems are going to need more legislative and monetary fixes. They need control of both houses to do that. This is a disaster for them. The House members are going to run once again on that issue and the GOP will probably get back up to 260 seats. The Senate may not flip but in any case will be much tighter. This may be fun to watch, except for how expensive it will be.
You forgot to mention that this is one of those “forever” stamps.
Hope so! Good post.
You pay $300 to the insurance company, the government pays the other $100 direct to the insurance company.
The real issue isn’t the website, it is the overpricing of the insurance, expecting young people to buy it-they won’t.
Barry “BS Bomber” Obama still keeps lying and lying and lying like the one trick pony he is. Even the MSM can't save him now as THEY lose their health care! ObamaCare bites its supporters in the butt. Priceless.
Nope, won’t happen. Too much voter fraud and low information voters keeping the hand outs acomin.
I am hoping impeachment proceedings can start in Jan2015 for ObamaCare fraud, for starters.
Impeached? He could massacre a troop of girl scouts by beheading them on the White House lawn during the Easter Egg roll, butcher them, barbecue them and serve them to all the participants and he still wouldnt be impeached. And if you criticized him about it, the press would say its a black thing and accuse you of being a racist tea bagging rethuglican for bringing it up while licking their fingers and asking Michelle what kind of spice rub theyre using and politely request more macaroni & cheese and a refill of their kool-aid.
What a real executive says is: "December 1 is a critical date. What can I do to help you remove obstacles to meeting that date." Obama is not an effective leader, he is an ineffective bully.
Waiting for the headline “OBAMA TELLS TRUTH!”