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White House: Website won’t be fixed by December 1 (Democrats fear the Senate has been lost)
Hot Air ^ | November 26, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/26/2013 7:26:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Old and busted: Healthcare.gov will be fully operational by November 30th. New hotness: Healthcare.gov will, er, work better than it did by December 1!

Brought to you by the same people who insisted that if you liked your insurance plan, you could keep it:

Obama administration officials said Monday that some visitors to HealthCare.gov will experience outages, slow response times or try-again-later messages in December.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) delivered the message in the latest attempt to downplay expectations for Nov. 30, the administration’s self-imposed deadline for fixing ObamaCare’s federal enrollment site.

CMS spokeswoman Julie Bataille said errors that persist past this weekend would be “intermittent” and, in line with a promise made by the White House, would not affect the vast majority of the site’s users.

But Bataille acknowledged that some would still experience “periods of suboptimal performance” by the system due to either heavy traffic or technical issues that are still being addressed.

“The system will not work perfectly on Dec. 1, but it will work much better than it did in October,” Bataille said.

Speaking of suboptimal performance …

The comments came after HealthCare.gov experienced an unscheduled outage on Monday for one hour. The CMS had recently touted the site for not randomly crashing. Bataille said the problem was remedied quickly by the site’s tech team.

Let’s recall that the pledge last month was specifically that Healthcare.gov would be “fully functional” by December 1. That date was not an accident. In order to have coverage by January 1, enrollees have to complete their enrollment by mid-December, although the administration is trying to get insurers to wait until December 23rd rather than the 15th as the cutoff. If the web portal still can’t handle the enrollments properly and fully by that time — and the 834s to the insurers seem to still be a big problem in that regard:

Behind the scenes, when an individual selects a plan, the federal system transmits a file, known as an “834,” with all of the relevant information about that individual and his or her plan selection.

These files have been plagued by errors, from spouses and children being mixed up to enrollments being duplicated or inadvertently cancelled. According to HHS, they have “completed fixes for two-thirds of the high-priority bugs that our tech team working with issuers identified as being responsible for the issues with 834 transactions and other issuer priorities.”

But according to an insurance industry source, though the 834 problems are getting better, there is still a long way to go. Insurers still haven’t reached the point where they can feel confident that the data is reliable.

As a result, though they have been able to process some payments from individuals, they’ve only been able to do so on piecemeal basis in cases where they are fully confident in the data, often because it’s been verified by hand.

That’s another problem. If the front end starts working better, the deluge of last-minute enrollments to comply with the individual mandate will flood insurers with bad data, which will be impossible to fix by hand in that level of throughput. Let’s also not forget that the subsidy-payment system doesn’t exist yet, either. This announcement only relates to the consumer experience of Healthcare.gov, not the full functionality. Without the subsidy payments to the insurers, there’s still a large question as to whether those subsidy-qualifying enrollees will actually have coverage on January 1 if insurers don’t get the full premiums in hand by December 31st, a deadline which now looks impossible to meet.

Democrats pinned their hopes of competing in the 2014 midterms on the Obama administration’s ability to deliver on this pledge. Now they’re beginning to realize that they’ve hitched their wagons to a failing star:

For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.

Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu’s approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor’s approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.

The big picture isn’t any better: The president’s approval rating, which historically correlates with his party’s midterm performance, has dipped below 40 percent in several national surveys. Democrats saw their nine-point lead on the generic ballot in the Quinnipiac survey evaporate in a month, and a CNN/ORC poll released today shows Republicans now holding a two-point lead.

“You want to prevent your race from being about Obamacare. If you enable your race to be about Obamacare, you’re making a mistake,” said Democratic pollster Mark Mellman, who’s working for Landrieu. “You need to explain what you’re trying to fix, and you better be trying to fix something. If there’s nothing you want to fix, there’s something wrong with you. At this point, it’s hard to defend the benefits, but you can say we’re not going back to the evils of the old system.”

In the old system, 85% of Americans had health insurance, and 87% were satisfied with their health care. Good luck trying to run on the “evils” of that system, especially after getting an up-close-and-personal look at DemocratCare.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2014; democrats; imshocked; obama; obamacare
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Why are there no mobs in the streets? Buehler? Buehler?
1 posted on 11/26/2013 7:26:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quite a trainwreck


2 posted on 11/26/2013 7:28:52 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(Democrats fear the Senate has been lost)

Not to worry, Dingy Harry, the Republicans will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

3 posted on 11/26/2013 7:33:16 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Say it isn’t so!!


4 posted on 11/26/2013 7:33:55 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015.

They'd still have the big O's veto in any event.

5 posted on 11/26/2013 7:38:10 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“there’s still a large question as to whether those subsidy-qualifying enrollees will actually have coverage on January 1 if insurers don’t get the full premiums in hand by December 31st, a deadline which now looks impossible to meet”

Looks like Big Insurance will have to accept an IOU from Obama for a while. “I’m good for it, Bro.”


6 posted on 11/26/2013 7:38:16 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The system is being overwhelmed.

That's all that matters.

7 posted on 11/26/2013 7:42:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 posted on 11/26/2013 7:43:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, it only takes 51 votes to kill it now, right?


9 posted on 11/26/2013 7:43:49 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry our current crop of leftists are the most Whip-Smart BRILLIANT leftists to have ever walked the planet.
Besides, Their dad is a TV repairman, He’s got the ultimate set of tools, They can fix this.....


10 posted on 11/26/2013 7:45:54 PM PST by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know what’s going to happen, now don’t you? Massive voter fraud in the next election. The Dems will be stuffing ballots like crazy. They’re probably already wandering through the nation’s graveyards looking for voters. How do you think Obama got back in?


11 posted on 11/26/2013 7:50:54 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Not to worry, Dingy Harry, the Republicans will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

Beat me to it!


12 posted on 11/26/2013 7:51:08 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

13 posted on 11/26/2013 7:51:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No AR Pryor has lost an election since the summer of 1972. People in AR place a priority on the Pryors.


14 posted on 11/26/2013 7:54:55 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FIXING OBAMACARE

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15 posted on 11/26/2013 7:56:12 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haha. The Libs can’t even pull off socialism.


16 posted on 11/26/2013 7:57:39 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FIXING OBAMACARE  photo curlyoilspillfix.jpg
17 posted on 11/26/2013 7:58:20 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GOP better get on this in 2014 -- and strongly. I have a perfect campaign theme:

Why is it that your government insists that you file your taxes by April 15th every year under threat of prosecution, but they couldn't get the ObamaCare website running to meet their own deadline under the law?

18 posted on 11/26/2013 7:58:34 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It has gone from being ready on October 1, to being ready by November 30, to being ready for most users by November 30, to “it won’t be perfect”.

Meanwhile all you businesses and government agencies, go ahead and violate the law. It’s okay because the King has decreed it.


19 posted on 11/26/2013 7:58:55 PM PST by Ray76
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To: mowowie

ok Spicolli.

lol


20 posted on 11/26/2013 8:01:57 PM PST by Hammerhead
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Can someone tell me how the subsidies work? Do you get a check every month? Every year? How do you compel people to use the money for insurance? Does it only exists on paper?

For example, the site tells me I get a $100 subsidy on a $400 premium. Do I really get that money? Does the site just tell me to only pay $300?


21 posted on 11/26/2013 8:07:08 PM PST by radiohead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not their fault, it’s those means Republicans who keep demanding that it actually work. If it wasn’t for them it could have been declared a success two months ago and nobody’d be the wiser. Well.. okay there’d be the people who’d not been able to get a policy, but the ones that complained could have been handled by calling them teabagging racists.


22 posted on 11/26/2013 8:12:11 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The system is being overwhelmed.

That's all that matters.

What a rich irony that Obamacare has Cloward-Piven-ed itself.

23 posted on 11/26/2013 8:12:18 PM PST by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Works just like Amazon! Roflol...

Yeah, right! I have received dozens of packages (most in less than two days & free shipping) and the healthcare crap system hasn’t even work all day for one day yet!


24 posted on 11/26/2013 8:14:47 PM PST by kcvl
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To: radiohead
I heard that you pay the full premium, then get a tax credit for the subsidy at the end of the year.

We are eligible, but we are not taking it. I refuse to get on Obama's dole.

25 posted on 11/26/2013 8:17:22 PM PST by what's up
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To: radiohead

It’s more of a subsidy to Insurance on your behalf. Uncle Sam send 100 bucks to Blue Cross, which along with your 300 pays the premium.

When Captain IT told Congress that the “payment mechanisms” hadn’t been built yet, that’s what he was referring to. Right now there’s no way for Uncle Sam to give Blue Cross their 100 bucks.

That’s why people are wondering if they’ll actually have coverage starting Jan 1st. If you send your 300, but that 100 is sent accidentally to Iran, who decides if you’re really covered? The better question is, other than you, does anybody really care?


26 posted on 11/26/2013 8:17:22 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Jet Jaguar

Here’s hoping that’s a “Forever Stamp”.


27 posted on 11/26/2013 8:22:41 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: Yo-Yo
"(Democrats fear the Senate has been lost)"

I don't know who writes this crap!

By next year the media will have everyone believing that Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz paid hackers to mess up Obama's website and the dems will pick up seats.

28 posted on 11/26/2013 8:26:16 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: Ray76

“It has gone from being ready on October 1, to being ready by November 30, to being ready for most users by November 30, to “it won’t be perfect”.”

It will be tested and functional the day after the Twelfth of Never.


29 posted on 11/26/2013 8:27:10 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Huskrrrr

30 posted on 11/26/2013 8:28:54 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: RightGeek

Isn’t this the time when Alynsky would advise overloading the system with phone calls to make them live up to a standard they can’t abide by. Millions of phone calls, and repeat calls back.


31 posted on 11/26/2013 8:29:26 PM PST by healy61
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.”

I like those odds... but you always have to factor in Tokyo Rove.


32 posted on 11/26/2013 8:47:09 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why? Has Mitch threatened to quit.


33 posted on 11/26/2013 9:00:01 PM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: MUDDOG
They'd still have the big O's veto in any event.
The Dems are going to need more legislative and monetary fixes. They need control of both houses to do that. This is a disaster for them. The House members are going to run once again on that issue and the GOP will probably get back up to 260 seats. The Senate may not flip but in any case will be much tighter. This may be fun to watch, except for how expensive it will be.
34 posted on 11/26/2013 9:13:25 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

You forgot to mention that this is one of those “forever” stamps.


35 posted on 11/26/2013 9:23:02 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Tennessean4Bush
This is a disaster for them.

Hope so! Good post.

36 posted on 11/26/2013 9:27:24 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: radiohead
For example, the site tells me I get a $100 subsidy on a $400 premium. Do I really get that money? Does the site just tell me to only pay $300?

You pay $300 to the insurance company, the government pays the other $100 direct to the insurance company.

37 posted on 11/26/2013 9:28:42 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: 353FMG
this is one of those “forever” stamps

Indeed!

38 posted on 11/26/2013 9:35:07 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise

39 posted on 11/26/2013 9:38:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real issue isn’t the website, it is the overpricing of the insurance, expecting young people to buy it-they won’t.


40 posted on 11/26/2013 9:45:13 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise
I perdicted that!


41 posted on 11/26/2013 9:46:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This was so “unexpected” . . . NOT.

Barry “BS Bomber” Obama still keeps lying and lying and lying like the one trick pony he is. Even the MSM can't save him now as THEY lose their health care! ObamaCare bites its supporters in the butt. Priceless.

42 posted on 11/26/2013 9:57:32 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope, won’t happen. Too much voter fraud and low information voters keeping the hand outs acomin.


43 posted on 11/26/2013 10:07:08 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (A pox on the House of Apple and the ios7 horse they rode in on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am hoping impeachment proceedings can start in Jan2015 for ObamaCare fraud, for starters.


44 posted on 11/26/2013 10:16:05 PM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: IAGeezer912

Impeached? He could massacre a troop of girl scouts by beheading them on the White House lawn during the Easter Egg roll, butcher them, barbecue them and serve them to all the participants and he still wouldn’t be impeached. And if you criticized him about it, the press would say “it’s a black thing” and accuse you of being a racist tea bagging rethuglican for bringing it up while licking their fingers and asking Michelle what kind of spice rub they’re using and politely request more macaroni & cheese and a refill of their kool-aid.


45 posted on 11/26/2013 10:19:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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46 posted on 11/27/2013 12:46:47 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama proudly repeated to the press the command he gave to the huddled bureaucrats: "The website SHALL be fixed by December 1." A real executive knows this is a useless command. The bureaucrats would have gladly had it working by October 1, if it had been within their power to make it happen. It clearly wasn't.

What a real executive says is: "December 1 is a critical date. What can I do to help you remove obstacles to meeting that date." Obama is not an effective leader, he is an ineffective bully.

47 posted on 11/27/2013 4:19:07 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Revolting cat!; GeronL

Waiting for the headline “OBAMA TELLS TRUTH!”


48 posted on 11/27/2013 4:53:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Revolting cat!; Daffynition; Lucky9teen; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

49 posted on 11/27/2013 4:55:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Revolting cat!
Rather shocking revelation, wouldn't you say old chap?


50 posted on 11/27/2013 4:57:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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