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How ‘Liberal’ Is Sen. Cornyn?
Factcheck.org ^ | Dec 11, 2013 | Brooks Jackson

Posted on 12/14/2013 11:59:29 AM PST by Innovative

Cornyn was rated the second most conservative of all incumbent U.S. senators by the nonpartisan National Journal, based on his voting record in the last Congress, which sat during 2011 and 2012. He scored 93.8 percent on the Journal’s “composite” conservative scale, which melds ratings on economic, social and foreign policy votes.

Similarly, the anti-tax group Club for Growth has consistently rated Cornyn among the most conservative GOP senators over the years.

The anti-abortion National Right to Life Committee gave Cornyn a rating of 100 percent in the last Congress, and also 100 percent in the current Congress to date.

Also in the current Congress, DeMint’s Heritage Action for America rates Cornyn’s voting record as the ninth most conservative among current Republican senators, giving him a rating of 86 percent.

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TOPICS: Texas; Issues; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: conservatives; cornyn; johncornyn; republicans; stevestockman; stockman; texas
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I noted someone bringing up Cornyn vs Stockman on FR.

Since I was not familiar with Stockman and only generally familiar with Cornyn, I decided to check it out and found the above info,much more at the link.

1 posted on 12/14/2013 11:59:30 AM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

I’ll be curious to see if his rating changes after he votes for Tammy Faye’s amnesty bill next year. Just sayin I think he’ll go along with it. I hope not.

Texas Freepers weigh in.


2 posted on 12/14/2013 12:03:31 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Innovative

I suspect he and Demint confirmed the appointment of Leon loose lips Panetta as DoD head not so many years ago. I think the entire sitting Senate did or close,, but no politico is perfect,, and the ACU ratings are far from a solid litmus test these days, IMHO.

we’ll see next spring..


3 posted on 12/14/2013 12:04:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Innovative

That’s liberal Factcheck.org.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 12:04:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They are quoting numbers from reliable conservative organizations, they are not doing their own ratings, numbers are numbers.


5 posted on 12/14/2013 12:06:12 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

I have noticed the Gope likes to turn the debate in this way to argue that the Gope dope is quite conservative. Eg McCain, McConnell, McGeneric Gope etc... Has a quite conservative record.

These records are inevitBky true, but it is a canard and if they twist the argument in this manner they have changed the playing field and maneuvered to their advantage.

Gopes maintain conservative voting records and credentials and I personally don’t care to argue that they don’t hold conservative views or values.

Arguing in this way leads us no where.

The issue becomes effectiveness and leadership.

We need to not argue over who is more conservative but who has the guts to stand up for it in a real situation, ie House or Senate, where it counts and has real life ramifications.

It is a question of inertia and belong along to get along as opposed to moving the ball forward.


6 posted on 12/14/2013 12:06:42 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Innovative

I am suspicious when any liberal organization tries to encourage us to keep some Republican in place because they are so conservative...


7 posted on 12/14/2013 12:10:54 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: Innovative

Scroll through the following and you’ll find a vast array of info as to support or nonsupport.

http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/15375/john-cornyn


8 posted on 12/14/2013 12:14:28 PM PST by deport
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To: Innovative
Our beef with Cornyn has to do with the fact that he's not out there attacking the Dems and Obama's positions. Like the GOPe, he's accepting their premises and narratives and trying to work with them.

I don't want any Republican to "work" with Obama or the Democrats. I want them actively opposing them and explaining to the American people why they're doing it.

I don't give a damn what Cornyn's ratings, or any other Republicans "lifetime" ratings are, based on subjective votes.

9 posted on 12/14/2013 12:15:23 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Innovative

Cornyn did not stand with Cruz.

If he had, we’d still have seen through it.

The recipe for Stockman to whack Cornyn out of his seat was built when Cruz did same to Dewhurst, and it will be deja-vu all over again.


10 posted on 12/14/2013 12:15:47 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Innovative
Cornyn must go. I will be working hard on the ground to get Cornyn fired. He's my senator, and I want him gone.

You can play all the ratings games you like. I shall see him removed.

Any of the candidates against Cornyn can help keep him below 50%, and I encourage all Texans to vote for ANYONE BUT CORNYN.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/14/2013 12:19:20 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Innovative

What reliable conservative organizations? The ACU is no such thing. The National Journal is an Obama-worshiping publication. The Heritage Foundation is more libertarian than anything. They’re quoting the NY Times as legitimate. The Club For Growth is only concerned with fiscal conservatism, not social.


12 posted on 12/14/2013 12:21:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Innovative

Cornyn, like McCain and Graham and Santorum and Huckabee…are pro life liberals. They are very wimpy when confronting the Democrats. Some pro life organizations never look past the one issue.

Lotta wolves hanging around with pro life voting records who are awful in every other aspect, and who never lead on the social issues anyway.

Voting records are only of limited value. In this media age, public statements and fund raising appeals are often more powerful than a few votes.


13 posted on 12/14/2013 12:24:47 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Innovative

Thanks to Ted Cruz, the American people, especially those in Texas, understand what a good Conservative is.

A good Conservative is someone who has the courage to act on his Conservative principles to the extent that he inspires his constituents to greet him enthusiastically at airports when he returns home from his battles in Washington.

Has anyone ever greeted John Cornyn enthusiastically on his trips home, except for corporate executives pleased that he pushed their interests forward in the Senate?

The Republican party needs more Ted Cruzes and fewer John Cornyns.


14 posted on 12/14/2013 12:27:13 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: NormsRevenge

McCornyn did vote to confirm both SecState Hanoi John Kerry and SecDef Chuckwad Hagel.

Not to mention that as Senate Minority Whip, he allowed several Senate RINOs to vote against the DEFUNDING Obamacide as well as in SUPPORT of the Senate AMNESTY Bill.

What more do you need to see that he MUST GO?


15 posted on 12/14/2013 12:27:53 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yes.

They will always have good ratings.

The Gope apologists will focus on this.


16 posted on 12/14/2013 12:32:41 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Innovative

IMO, it isn’t how liberal or conservative they are but how corrupted by the Washington Beltway are they? Are they willing to fight against the entrenched powers or are they willing to take those elites on and return power to the people? That is my main concern. Returning power includes getting rid of Obamacare, the 16th amendment along with the IRS, the EPA, etc. We need tenacious fighters and defenders of the constitution, not self-serving career politicians.


17 posted on 12/14/2013 12:33:44 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: NormsRevenge

Personally after the first couple of years I don’t think it makes any difference who was sent there. I have noticed they gradually become more wishy washy in their beliefs till you can’t tell them from the Democommies. Just my two cents, but I am starting to think Cruz might be an exception. I hope so. Merry Christmas and may you get all the stuff you would never have bought yourself.


18 posted on 12/14/2013 12:39:23 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: ifinnegan

Voting records are easily manipulated. Many votes are cast solely to give themselves political cover. I agree with you, we need people who, prior to the votes, stand and give everything they’ve got to affect the outcome of the vote. Much like Ted Cruz has been doing.


19 posted on 12/14/2013 12:40:23 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: ifinnegan
That's the thing. If Republicans aren't standing up for conservatives principles and actively opposing Obama/Dims, then they're persona non grata to me.

Take Senator Ron Johnson, elected to the Senate from WI by the Tea Party. What does he do? Doesn't stand with Cruz/Lee, doesn't vocally denounces Obamacare and call for it's immediate repeal. He introduced a stupid bill that let's people keep their health insurance under Obamacare.

Again, that accepting the narrative, the premise that Obamacare is here to stay and we need to "make it work better." To me that's unacceptable and I've have given Johnson's office an earful.

20 posted on 12/14/2013 12:40:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Innovative

That missing 6.2% was the critical votes where you had to stand strong. It is the hardest votes that mattered. He missed the real fight there.


21 posted on 12/14/2013 12:42:46 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: ifinnegan

Who was that Masked Man, wearing a Conservatives Mask, he is a wolf in Sheeps clothing. In his last Campaign Corny did TV adds making him look like the Texas Marlboro Man, riding tall in the saddle. What he really is about is closer to a used car salesman at the end of the quarter trying to make sales quota.

Don’t let him fool you again. He has not advanced the Conservative agenda. He is head of the Gop Senate campaign committee. Where are all the conservatives he has introduced and backed to run. How many Freep stories like Virginia where Ken Cuccinelli wasn’t given the GOP funding and its GOPe dopes like Corny who allocate funds based on their bias against Conservatives and TEA backed GOP candidates. I haven’t heard Corny stick up for Gop Tea candidates, or back them with funding. So we get results like in Virginia in a winnable race.


22 posted on 12/14/2013 12:48:37 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: JRandomFreeper

"Cornyn must go. I will be working hard on the ground to get Cornyn fired. He's my senator, and I want him gone."

Cornyn is just like all the other Establishment do-nothing's in the Senate (and House leadership)- they love to pad their "Conservative" record by voting for red-meat bills that don't stand a chance of passing (or alternatively, voting against Dem-proposed bills once it is apparent that the Dems already have enough votes). But he's never going to take the initiative to attempt to put a halt on the left's increasingly totalitarian, radical agenda.

We need leaders from the great state of Texas.

23 posted on 12/14/2013 12:53:29 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

And don’t forget the RSC asking Cruz not to endorse or un-endorse anybody a few weeks ago.


24 posted on 12/14/2013 12:59:41 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Innovative

“Since I was not familiar with Stockman and only generally familiar with Cornyn, I decided to check it out and found the above info,much more at the link.”

So, you posted an article supporting Cornyn. If you really didn’t know much about either, perhaps you should have posted their stands on various issues from both of their websites. Posting a pro Cornyn article only, is disingenuous, promoting Cornyn only and you know it.

Your about page does not list the state you are from.


25 posted on 12/14/2013 1:22:13 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Innovative

Actions speak louder than votes. Cornrow is a Liberal Democrat.


26 posted on 12/14/2013 1:24:37 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Cruz and Rand are real! After Marco had to go stand in the corner, he may turn around and be a better one, I’ll wait and see.


27 posted on 12/14/2013 1:27:21 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Qbert
Cornyn is just like all the other Establishment do-nothing's in the Senate (and House leadership)- they love to pad their "Conservative" record by voting for red-meat bills that don't stand a chance of passing ...

And that makes them different from everybody else in Congress how?

Cornyn could respond that Cruz also tries to pad his own record by voting for bills that don't stand a chance of passing.

28 posted on 12/14/2013 1:31:03 PM PST by x
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To: JRandomFreeper

With you on that. . .fellow Texan


29 posted on 12/14/2013 1:38:28 PM PST by Hulka
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To: x

Why didn’t Cornyn take to the senate floor to support Cruz!? because he’s
A RINO that’s why. These ratings don’t mean that much. I want someone
Who will actively oppose the ongoing destruction of this country and not just when it’s fun and easy. Cornyn must go!!!


30 posted on 12/14/2013 2:09:03 PM PST by wewereright
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Innovative.

> Club for Growth has consistently rated Cornyn among the most conservative GOP senators over the years. The anti-abortion National Right to Life Committee gave Cornyn a rating of 100 percent in the last Congress, and also 100 percent in the current Congress to date. Also in the current Congress, DeMint’s Heritage Action for America rates Cornyn’s voting record as the ninth most conservative among current Republican senators, giving him a rating of 86 percent.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 2:10:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“I’ll be curious to see if his rating changes after he votes for Tammy Faye’s amnesty bill next year. Just sayin I think he’ll go along with it. I hope not.

Texas Freepers weigh in.”

Do the names Charlie Crist and Arlen Specter ring a bell?


32 posted on 12/14/2013 2:14:57 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: Innovative

The conservative rating agencies on Cornyn are very misleading, because both Cornyn and McConnell vote very carefully to fool their constituents and hold on to power. They work behind the scenes to assist the democrats’ agenda. And they use the old trick of voting no on democrat bills that are already going to pass and vote aye on bills they know won’t pass. The two of them are insidious.

Proof: Cornyn as head of the NRSC endorsed and supported Lincoln Chafee, Charlie Crist and Arlen Specter, all three later became democrats. As head of the NRSC he endorsed or supported the more moderate candidate over the more conservative candidate in EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE.

McConnell and Cornyn’s goal is to keep conservatives from getting into the Senate. Both of them must be removed if liberalism is to be thwarted and conservatism advanced.

Cornyn (TX) - 03/04/14 - 83% (Average) - 85% (Heritage) - 82% (CFG) - 88% (ACU) - 75% (FreedomWorks)

McConnell (KY) - 05/20/14 - 81% (Average) - 79% (Heritage) - 74% (CFG) - 100% (ACU) - 71% (FreedomWorks)


33 posted on 12/14/2013 3:09:08 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Innovative

factcheck.org is one of Soros sites.


34 posted on 12/14/2013 3:11:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: cotton1706

Cornyn also supported Lisa Murkowski, a useless social revolutionary pig, PRE-PRIMARY.


35 posted on 12/14/2013 3:49:46 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

That election confirmed for me that the GOPe are the enemy.


36 posted on 12/14/2013 3:55:23 PM PST by txhurl
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To: X-spurt

After Marco had to go stand in the corner, he may turn around and be a better one, I’ll wait and see.


Rubio’s just waiting to see which side wins before he takes sides.


37 posted on 12/14/2013 3:56:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: X-spurt

RUBE-O jumped the shark.Never trust his arse.Never.They own him lock stock and barrel.


38 posted on 12/14/2013 4:14:16 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

So is Steve real or not. If we get rid of Corndog, do we get a Hot Dog or a dog that rolls over for Harry Reid like Corndog does?


39 posted on 12/14/2013 4:26:20 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: editor-surveyor

“factcheck.org is one of Soros sites.”

Not correct.

“It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[4] “

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org


40 posted on 12/14/2013 4:27:00 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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During the presidential primary, the TX freepers tried to explain that Gov goodhair was not all that. During the previous senator primary, we had to explain why dewhurst was a rino and Cruz was the right choice. In the same way, we are pretty unified with ABC. Anybody buy Cornyn!


41 posted on 12/14/2013 4:30:55 PM PST by csivils
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During the presidential primary, the TX freepers tried to explain that Gov goodhair was not all that. During the previous senator primary, we had to explain why dewhurst was a rino and Cruz was the right choice. In the same way, we are pretty unified with ABC. Anybody buy Cornyn!


42 posted on 12/14/2013 4:30:56 PM PST by csivils
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To: csivils

Dang phone keyboard!

Anybody but Cornyn!


43 posted on 12/14/2013 4:32:02 PM PST by csivils
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To: csivils

The House took a shutdown to stop Obamacare, Corndog didn’t back their play or Cruz his fellow Texan. What a useless POS he is.

TED CRUZ was right on Obamacare, and Corndog gets an assist
to Obama and Reid for being a Rino the Left loves.


44 posted on 12/14/2013 4:38:56 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Innovative

Guess what?

The Annenberg foundation is under the control of Bill Ayers people, and has been for about a decade.


45 posted on 12/14/2013 4:46:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Arrowhead1952

Zero was a major figure in Annenberg for years.

Oo-ooh, that SMELL!


46 posted on 12/14/2013 4:51:56 PM PST by txhurl
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To: editor-surveyor

“The Annenberg foundation is under the control of Bill Ayers people, and has been for about a decade.”

Really? I had no idea — I thought the Annenberg’s were fairly conservative.


47 posted on 12/14/2013 5:15:23 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Annenbergs — I know it’s NOT “Annenberg’s” — read before hitting post!


48 posted on 12/14/2013 5:16:08 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Annenberg is dead.


49 posted on 12/14/2013 5:16:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: X-spurt

I have met Rand and I think the same way except he seems to be a little more diplomatic in his responses to the Dems. Usually that is a bad sign. I hope you are right. I also have respect for Lee, and the rep. first name is Trey can’t remember the last. Maybe there are more honest ones then I know, hope so.


50 posted on 12/14/2013 5:24:20 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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