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Neal Boortz Unloads on Social Conservatives on Sean Hannity’s Radio Show
PJ Media ^ | December 27, 2013 | Paula Bolyard

Posted on 12/27/2013 5:30:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Neal Boortz, subbing for Sean Hannity on his radio show on the day after Christmas, took the opportunity to unload a heap of libertarian wrath upon social conservatives, saying that Republicans will not win another election if they continue ”screaming and yelling about abortion, about gay rights, about prayer in school.” Boortz spat the words “social conservative Republicans” into the airwaves as he railed against (some unnamed) Republicans who, apparently “obsessed” with social issues, are running around the country raging against the forces trying to take prayer out of school. Boortz seemed particularly upset with Republicans who want to peer into everyone’s bedrooms to find out who is sleeping with whom.

During the three-hour show, Boortz dragged out nearly every straw man that the left uses to waylay Republicans in elections, using a few isolated cases as the exemplars of social conservatism in the GOP.

Perhaps Boortz has missed this development, but Rick Santorum is no longer the face of the Republican Party and he’s not even the face of social conservatism. For that matter, even during the course of his presidential campaign, Santorum was not much of a social crusader. The left and their collaborators in the media are the ones who are “obsessed” with social issues, having put them on the front lines of the 2012 campaign, including their contrived War on Women. Santorum could hardly stick to name, rank, and serial number when he was relentlessly badgered about abortion, gay marriage, and contraception on the campaign trail. At least he had the decency to be intellectually honest about his views rather than taking the politically expedient route.

But social conservatives have, by and large, moved on. If you look at the list of supposed presidential contenders (according to a recent Fox News poll), none are “screaming” about social issues. Leaving Christie out of this discussion because he seems to be evolving at the moment, all of the others on the list have professed, to one degree or another, support for the social conservative agenda. But which one of those potential candidates is running around the country “screaming” about them?

Instead, most social conservatives have shifted the debate to the issue of liberty. There is every reason to believe that it’s a winning strategy for Republicans to defend freedom and liberty — freedom of speech, religious liberty, the right to life. Even many on the left are beginning to reject the absurd and illiberal trajectory of what Mark Steyn has called the Bureau of Conformity Enforcement. When even liberal feminist Camille Paglia describes the fisking of a 67-year-old Christian grandfather from Louisiana as ”punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist,” we know that support for this battle for freedom of conscience is growing by the hour. Though social issues are necessarily rooted in religious and moral questions, that’s not the only way to discuss them in the public square, as many conservatives are learning.

Neal Boortz wants a live-and-let-live America — a place where women can kill their “fetuses” with abandon and where marriage means whatever anyone wants it to mean on any particular day. Unfortunately, those things don’t happen in a vacuum. When our government forces private business owners with religious objections to pay for abortions or when all of us are forced to subsidize contraception for promiscuous 20 year olds, there is a loss of liberty experienced by those on the wrong side of the politically correct equation. When a photographer is forced by the government, under the threat of severe legal and financial penalties, to attend a gay wedding and to artistically present that wedding — against the dictates of his conscience — as a beautiful, blessed event, it deprives him of his liberty and endangers the free speech of all of us.

The contempt Boortz hurled at social conservatives is nothing new. It’s been common in certain circles to blame this substantial wing of the GOP for everything from Sandra Fluke’s contraceptive shortage to the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby. The religious and ideological cleansing of the GOP has escalated in the year since Mitt Romney’s loss, as the consultants bought in to the meme that all social conservatives are racist, sexist, misogynist homophobes intent on following everyone into their bedrooms. It’s not true, but after two consecutive presidential losses, the GOP establishment needs a scapegoat. The problem with what Boortz and others are demanding is that it leaves social conservatives with very limited options. They can abandon the GOP, they can lie about “who they are” when asked about social issues, or they can fall in line and change their views to accommodate the prevailing ideology of the Left. None of those options are very appealing.

This isn’t only about controlling the direction of the Republican Party. It’s also about the national conversations we are having about the intersection of values and rights and the ability to hold alternative or unpopular viewpoints in a free society. The reality is that a significant percentage of social conservatives will not comply with the Bureau of Conformity Enforcement, whether it’s the Left or the GOP or the libertarians who are demanding compliance. If the party continues to evolve in the direction of the Left — silencing social conservatives and marginalizing their voice in the party — at some point they’re going to say “nobody puts Baby in a corner” and they will be done with an intolerant party that no longer represents their views.

Where they’ll go is anybody’s guess. A recent piece in Reason sarcastically posited that there are no options – ”as if they would vote for Democrats otherwise?” No, not Democrats, but perhaps “none of the above” as many did in 2012 when, for a second straight presidential election, the national Republican Party and the consultant class disregarded the conservative base and pushed a moderate candidate. Apathetic voters will continue to threaten the future of the Republican Party if this trajectory continues.

The Republican Party needs to ask some existential questions about whether they can find enough Pajama Boys and former Ron Paul enthusiasts to show up on election day to replace the social conservatives they will continue to bleed if this purge continues. You would think the history of the Whigs would at least give them pause to consider that this might not end well.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2014; abortion; gop; homosexualagenda; lping; nealboortz; seanhannity; socons; talkradio
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1 posted on 12/27/2013 5:30:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP thinks they can win by becoming democrats.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 5:37:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bortz is wrong. Why bother voting for anyone that doesn’t at least stand for trying to repair some of the things that Obama and Company have broken? We saw what happened in the last two presidential elections with millions and millions of voters just staying home.


3 posted on 12/27/2013 5:37:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems just have to sit back and let these useful idiots do their work for them.


4 posted on 12/27/2013 5:37:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is it with the demoralization of the libertarians? Their dope push is only going to empower Obamacare government control.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 5:38:20 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Neal punched his own ticket last year....

IMO...
...his 15-minutes were up quite a while back...

6 posted on 12/27/2013 5:40:42 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Calm down, Neal, and have another toke.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 5:41:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have voted solid Republican since 1984. Boortz makes me question that choice


8 posted on 12/27/2013 5:42:58 PM PST by Rock Eye Jack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You would think the history of the Whigs would at least give them pause to consider that this might not end well.

Much like the Freesoilers I'm reaching out to the disaffected left and explaining that the tea party won't give them everything they want but we'll give them more of what they want than the democrats will.

The democrats use them and stir them up over cronyism and corporate welfare but they never quite get around to doing anything about them. The tea party is under fire from the US chamber of commerce because they know we mean it when we say we want a level playing field and an end to corporate subsidies etc.
9 posted on 12/27/2013 5:43:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Guys like Boortz do far more harm than good by giving credibility to leftist lies and shibboleths.

He thinks his opinions are edgy and hip but in reality they've lost a lot of currency over the past decade or so.

10 posted on 12/27/2013 5:45:46 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Awwww....Poor Neal. Cold weather got you down? Here's a nice, cozy sweater vest to keep you warm.


11 posted on 12/27/2013 5:47:46 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Boortz has always been a repulsive, cowardly rodent. He originally downplayed the Tea Party movement until he realized he could use the venue to push his fair tax book. He trashes the pro-life movement, but was too cowardly to ever accept a call challenging him on it.

IMHO, in the few times I ever tried to give him a listen, I got the impression he was party to an abortion or two along the way and didn't want to face the truth of what he'd done...

12 posted on 12/27/2013 5:48:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care if republicans ever win another election as long as Christian conservatives do.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 5:48:46 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve got no use for this guy. Weaseltarian.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 5:49:56 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody’s looking into peoples bedrooms to see who is sleeping with who. Normal folks just get tired of the activists are parading it down main street.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 5:50:35 PM PST by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RATS = Party of abortion, free condoms, and gay marriage buys votes from the sewer dwelling American public. IT WORKS AND IT WILL WORK AGAIN IN 2014. The GOP is so over unless it grows a pair.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 5:58:29 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I got to hear this yesterday (a nice surprise,as an Atlanta Boortz listener before he retired), and it occurred to me that "conservative" voters cannot separate political and "social" values from their candidates. I can't, at least. A candidate's position on social values is an important measurement of his overall beliefs.

I understand Boortz' point that we need fiscally conservative politicians who can leave social issues alone, but those aren't the candidates that win votes (if they did,Libertarians might actually be a viable party).

And he's wrong about abortion - a "woman's right to choose" extends only to the extent that she chooses to engage in recreational sex. If that "choice" results in the creation of another human being, she has no right to determine whether that child lives or dies simply to excuse herself from her actions.

17 posted on 12/27/2013 5:58:48 PM PST by GizmosAndGadgets ( Government big enough to take away your light bulbs is big enough to do any damn thing it wants to.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boortz is a creep.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 5:59:49 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s what’s wrong with the Republican party. They just want to be the bullies’ friend. The GOP believes if they will just ignore the cancer that is destroying their body and killing our country, it will just go away and the minorities will love them.


19 posted on 12/27/2013 6:00:16 PM PST by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: skeeter
He thinks his opinions are edgy and hip but in reality they've lost a lot of currency over the past decade or so.

Yes. He rings hollow along side Planned Parenthood

20 posted on 12/27/2013 6:01:00 PM PST by Rock Eye Jack
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Neal Borrrrring.....


21 posted on 12/27/2013 6:02:31 PM PST by Shimmer1 (don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: GizmosAndGadgets
Boortz supports ‘abortion’ for other reasons than he lets on. If you listened to him enough you know why.
22 posted on 12/27/2013 6:02:57 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Bullish

Boortz creates controversy among conservatives for his support of abortion rights (on which Boortz does not allow calls), for his refusal to condemn homosexuality or gay marriage, and for his negative comments regarding Baptists and the biblical story of creation. Although he calls himself a Christian, he keeps his religious views private. He has also caused a stir among some Southerners, by coining the term “Flaggots” during his frequent jabs at them and at Confederate issues (such as governmental support of the Confederate flag).


23 posted on 12/27/2013 6:06:03 PM PST by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess someone listened to Boortz yesterday. I heard first five or ten minutes of it, and remembered why Boortz is boring. There are Republicans who are Republicans only because they want to pay lower taxes, and that’s the Boortz crowd in a nutshell.


24 posted on 12/27/2013 6:06:31 PM PST by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, that Reagan guy. Always screaming about social issues as if they were as important as the other issues.

Unelectable.

25 posted on 12/27/2013 6:11:55 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: kcvl
A few years back Boortz went off on a rant about people in an area of Texas who were calling in to complain about a five minute porno video that "accidentally" ran during a televised college football game.

He came across as seriously deranged.

26 posted on 12/27/2013 6:13:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neal Boortz is tiresome.


27 posted on 12/27/2013 6:16:47 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: Lakeshark

Unfortunately the current demographics of the USA look far different (worse) than they did in 1984.

1) flood of immigrants (legal and illegal)
2) another 1.5 generations educated in the “progressive” system


28 posted on 12/27/2013 6:18:46 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ansell; SoConPubbie
Social conservatism and fiscal conservatism go hand-in-hand. The two cannot be isolated.

Any Republican that supports abortion on demand, the breakdown of the family, or so-called homosexual rights are dead to me. And I'm among the most libertarian FReepers here.

29 posted on 12/27/2013 6:19:47 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: nascarnation
The problem is not so much the demographics, but the ridiculous plan to not fight to explain conservatism (as Reagan did so well) to the US public.

Demographics be damned, if people hear it explained over and over again, they tend to understand why conservatism IN ITS ENTIRETY is worth voting for.

When no one puts it forth while everyone else is ridiculing it, putting up straw men against it, it will tend to not receive enough votes.

30 posted on 12/27/2013 6:24:28 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any Christian that runs is going to be attacked like never before. Gird your loins and prepare for war.


31 posted on 12/27/2013 6:28:21 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could tell this guy was devoid of Reason and Logic years ago. Justice is a Virtue and Freedom is only possible with a Virtuous people.

This was known in Western Civ since Socrates.....and that idea of “Just Law” was really perfected by Cicero and St. Thomas Aquinas and adopted by the USA.

“When Just Laws ceases to be “Just” (a virtue) it ceases to be Law.”

So, all “Justice Systems” promote an Ethical System. Ours and England and all of Europe, used to be the Christian Ethics....a superior ethical system in the history of the world because every single human being had dignity and worth and Rights from the Creator. It was the most reasoned and debated religion in the world.

What made the USA work was the promotion of the family unit and private property, and Individual Natural Rights from God, not the State or King. (Protected by our Constitution).

Children could grow up to be emotionally strong and intelligent and productive and their worldview controlled by their families. Only secure societies (property rights) produce leisure and security. Americans were not “conditioned” and “group” thinkers until after Dewey. They were unique and thought “outside the box” and obeyed God’s Laws. Some would always fight against the State’s immoral laws, which made our country truly “progressive” when Europe, with Socialism, became regressive.

The prisons are filled with fatherless kids. Where there is no Virtue, culture collapses. When the family unit is destroyed, children usually can not flourish. It is very hard, so rare for people to end up like a Ben Carson who only made it because of Jesus Christ.

The Cultural Marxists like Lukacs/Gramsci stated to destroy America you have to destroy Virtue. The two pillars of Western Civilization (and America) are Christianity and the Natural Family.

Both were targeted with evil (unconstitutional) laws. Laws which deny children their natural rights to be raised by their biological parents—like homosexual marriage—are unjust law. All irrational law is unconstitutional, and homosexual “sex” is irrational and a vice (dehumanizing). John Marshall stated when Laws cease to promote Virtue—they cease to be law. They are “Null and Void”.

Nuremberg Trials and MLK, jr reiterated that same concept.

So, divorcing Virtue (ethics) from our government is NOT possible when it contains a “JUSTICE” system. Justice is the Queen of Virtue in Western Civilization (or was).

The trouble is, no one understands the fundamental meaning of the words in the US Constitution. Certainly not our “Justices” anymore. EVERY WORD has not only a specific meaning, but connotations-—dating back to the Greek Masters and Cicero. Words/meanings in our Supreme Document, should not “evolve”. The word, marriage, should not be allowed to be twisted into a meaningless concept. It removes Traditions and Reason to allow such twisting of words/Truth/Biology/Natural Laws/Reason.

Western Civilization-—all knowledge and Traditions (Classical Education) is being eliminated from the minds of children so the Marxist like the above-—can rewrite the “meaning” of everything....where Reason and Logic can never exist.

Wittgenstein—the brilliant philosopher stated—that words/language can be controlled to create the perceptions of the masses. Our media and public schools have been controlled by Marxists to destroy Virtue-—and Reason and Logic in our children, intentionally.

Boortz is obviously one of the brainwashed minions who is part of the Hegelian Dialectic or a useful idiot.


32 posted on 12/27/2013 6:31:00 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The proper spelling of his six letter name starts with boor where the 2nd definition applies and should be hyphenateed thusly... Boor-tz


33 posted on 12/27/2013 6:39:00 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we have to admire abortion, gay rights, and do away with prayer in schools. We don’t want to win.

We are either pro life, pro-prayer and pro morals or we are nothing.

Tell Boortz to go screw himself.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 6:39:16 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boortz was dead wrong.

Hannity will defend him.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

These boys are the latter.


35 posted on 12/27/2013 6:41:01 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neal is Progressive Lite.


36 posted on 12/27/2013 6:41:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the greediest, most corrupt, incompetent and murderous force on earth.)
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To: Theoria

I think I know why.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 6:51:15 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; RichInOC; Prince of Space; JoeFromSidney; TNMountainMan; alphadog; infool7; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

38 posted on 12/27/2013 6:52:04 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Theoria
Boortz supports ‘abortion’ for other reasons than he lets on. If you listened to him enough you know why.

The subject hits a little too close to home for him to be comfortable actually discussing it. His insistence on refusing to accept any calls on it was certainly the first clue.

39 posted on 12/27/2013 6:53:01 PM PST by GizmosAndGadgets ( Government big enough to take away your light bulbs is big enough to do any damn thing it wants to.)
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To: savagesusie

It’s fairly late in the year now, so I think it’s reasonable to suggest that your post should qualify for the FR Post of the Year.

While we can never legislate morality, it is always crucial to legislate morally. For the past 150 years or so we have had so-called “law schools” in this country. Perhaps it may soon be time for such a thing as a “Justice School.” Someday, when studying Socrates, Cicero, Aquinas, Blackstone, Locke, Kant, the Founding Fathers, John Marshall, and Wittgenstein, et al, will be respected enough by the masses to justify the price of tuition.


40 posted on 12/27/2013 7:00:42 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all smart little girls to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NB=] A GREAT GUY GETS MOST THINGS RIGHT HIS FAIR TAX BOOK ALONE CATAPULTS HIM INTO MT RUSHMORE TERRITORY...


41 posted on 12/27/2013 7:09:01 PM PST by jimsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What Boortz is missing is the backbone principles upon which he makes his decisions. Boortz is like most libertarians; He doesn’t want anyone to tell him that he “can’t”, even from a social perspective.

Everyone has a set of core principles that they fall back on when the answer isn’t obvious. What Boortz is advocating is that no one needs any core principles, which is really stupid.

For the most part, Boortz is a blowhard.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 7:10:44 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Hugin

“I didn’t ask you what your sexual activities were. Do not come out and tell me. I don’t want to know. If you insist on telling me, I will give you my opinion.”


43 posted on 12/27/2013 7:13:29 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boortz hit both ends of the spectrum for me. I either agreed with him, or I found myself yelling at the radio until I turned it off. He was jealous of Rush and never seemed to understand that the boorish manner he was so proud of doomed him to second tier.


44 posted on 12/27/2013 7:14:20 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: Joe 6-pack

I can certainly understand if a woman got drunk and slept with Boortz and got pregnant, she’d definitely want an abortion.


45 posted on 12/27/2013 7:16:10 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: kcvl

Boortz is no friend of ours if he thinks electing more GOP-e types will produce the slightest bit of change.


46 posted on 12/27/2013 7:37:25 PM PST by Luke21
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To: savagesusie

I commend your excellent post as well.


47 posted on 12/27/2013 7:39:05 PM PST by Luke21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used to listen to Boortz and came to believe that, despite a wife, he is himself homosexual. He was just a bit hyper in protesting against conservative attitudes towards homosexuals. He protested far too much.


48 posted on 12/27/2013 7:39:11 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can someone show me a Republican candidate that speaks about the evil of abortion, homosexuality and calls for prayer in schools?

We get Dole, McCain, Romney and somehow we are losing because we are too conservative?

The idiots had democrats on film booing God at the Dem convention and they did not even run an ad.


49 posted on 12/27/2013 7:45:20 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boortz is a FIBertarian. He’s as libertarian as Bill Maher.


50 posted on 12/27/2013 8:44:21 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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