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Hillary Clinton's Iowa problem
CNN ^ | January 14, 2014 | Peter Hamby, National Political Correspondent

Posted on 01/14/2014 4:04:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) -- In Iowa, the state that pulled the first block out of her wobbly Jenga-game of a presidential campaign six years ago, Hillary Clinton enjoys stratospheric approval ratings, well-heeled outside groups toiling on her behalf, and important political connections that date back decades.

From a distance, she appears invincible once again, far outpacing her rivals in the polls and primed to redeem herself in the caucus state that has never been especially friendly to the Clintons, or to female candidates.

Iowa has not elected a female governor, senator or member of Congress. In 2016, Clinton could finally put those demons to rest.

But beneath the surface here, familiar pitfalls might await Clinton should she decide to run: A restive and emboldened progressive base long suspicious of Clintonian moderation, a hunger for fresh Democratic voices, and a caucus electorate that boasts a cherished tradition of voting with its heart rather than its head.

"One of the great things about our party is that we are always looking for new leadership and new faces to represent the changing face of the Democratic Party," said Kimberley Boggus, a 34-year-old Democratic organizer from Beaverdale. "We are looking for new leadership because that's what's needed right now."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016; democrats; hillary; hillary2016; iowa
I used to know some of the Lefties in Des Moines. He might have a point.
1 posted on 01/14/2014 4:04:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After Obama, only a real retard would vote for Hillary. It would be better to repair this country after only 8 years than 16. We’re still three years away from the elections and “Retards For Hillary 2016” is already fired up and stealing peoples’ money. Morons.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 4:09:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Hitlerys problem isnt IOWA...it is that fact that no one with the IQ above an earth worm can stand the b*tch!


3 posted on 01/14/2014 4:12:53 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“After Obama, only a real retard would vote for Hillary.”

Oh, there are millions of them... remember, we’re talking about the American electorate, as well. The aggravating part of all this is Hillary will probably garner 65-70% of the women’s vote. Somewhere along the way, we’re going to be flummoxed by the inexplicable gravitation of some prominent, erstwhile “conservative” women who will be overcome by the urge to be “part of something historic.”


4 posted on 01/14/2014 4:17:31 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary may win. And if she does, it will only be because she is a woman. But I suspect millions of Americans, both male and female, are sick and tired of the same old wind-up toys on the political stage and are waiting for someone whose skin color or gender is not their defining characteristic.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 4:24:00 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> A restive and emboldened progressive base long suspicious of Clintonian moderation, a hunger for fresh Democratic voices, and a caucus electorate that boasts a cherished tradition of voting with its heart rather than its head.

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


6 posted on 01/14/2014 4:27:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: AdaGray

if it is the woman vote that will put Hillary in the White House, the GOP needs to put a woman on the top of their ticket.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 4:28:14 PM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: Cyclone59

Sarah Palin perhaps?

Why are we supposed to be excited about a woman president, if that woman is Hillary Clinton? Isn’t she shopworn by now? Can’t the Clintons just go away? Their time has come and gone.

I can’t believe too many conservative women would vote for Hillary because of wanting to elect a woman president.


8 posted on 01/14/2014 4:33:40 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Hillery isnt a woman, sjhe is a butch dyke and Billy Jeff is HER beard!


9 posted on 01/14/2014 4:35:05 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"A restive and emboldened progressive base long suspicious of Clintonian moderation"

There should be a barf warning.

10 posted on 01/14/2014 4:44:47 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A restive and emboldened progressive base long suspicious of Clintonian moderation...

LOL, the phrase "Clintonian moderation" is so Clintonian it rips time and space. Maybe the Pentagon should write it on the noses of its missiles to increase their impact by about a million percent (LOL, they probably already do).

Hillary in the Oval Office would be the end of the country, folks. Obama is a nose-picking child sitting in a sandbox compared to what this bitch would unleash on everyone. She's nothing but insane rage incarnate, and they only thing she dreams about is total destruction. Reason? She don't need no stinking reason.

11 posted on 01/14/2014 5:03:54 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In Iowa, the state that pulled the first block out of her wobbly Jenga-game of a presidential campaign six years ago...

From a distance, she appears invincible once again...

Well make up your mind, dude, did she have a wobbly Jenga-game or was she invincible? LOL, oh, my bad - this is Hillary! She had both - an invincible wobbly Jenga-game! Sorry! LOL!

12 posted on 01/14/2014 5:07:34 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Retards for Hillary 2016” and “Morons for Hillary 2016” would make great bumper stickers for slapping on every random Prius and Subaru a person sees in a parking lot.


13 posted on 01/14/2014 5:08:01 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it all comes down to the Chicago mob.
If you see Axlegrease, Gibbs, and Pluffy lined up with somebody else, Hillary likely goes down.
And if they’re on board, she’s a winner.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 5:10:11 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: ScottinVA

The counter to the “part of something historic” aspect would be to use Zerobama as an example and/or say “Would you vote for a Nazi midget pedophile for president? That would truly be historic.” and watch them stammer and stutter for a coherent answer.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 5:10:30 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Cyclone59
We have a winner. Our neighboring state of South Carolina has a wonderful governor by the name of Nikkie Haley. She looks like just the little angel we need.
16 posted on 01/14/2014 5:35:55 PM PST by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: AdaGray
Hillary is the most uninspiring speaker ever. The public never got a chance to discover this because Obama won the last Dem primary.

When people finally hear her they will wonder, "why on earth is this woman so famous"?

17 posted on 01/14/2014 5:41:53 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

“When people finally hear her they will wonder, “why on earth is this woman so famous”? “

You hit the nail on the head. The media cannot cover that up at all. She is not the “inspiration” that Obama was to the brainwashed cogs of the Democratic Party.

She has less charisma than Al Gore. She only stands a chance to win against Chris Christie and Jeb Bush types. If a Conservative runs against her, she’s done for.

Karl Rove is an ass, but he was 100% correct when he said that she’s a flawed candidate. 2008 might have been a close election if she won the primary. I think she would have won, but not by the margins Obama won. I don’t think she’s going to run in 2016 (I flat out admit I can be wrong :-) ). They are going to use her to raise money though. Hell, I would! Obama’s cost them a ton of campaign cash thus far!


18 posted on 01/14/2014 6:01:15 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what drugs is hitlary on... she looks crazed to me. she asked about who you want to get the 3 am phone call. she didn’t answer the 3 pm phine call from the ambassador. 4 dead as secretary of state... just think how many she can kill as pres.. the high point of here sec of stae act wsa bumping asses and humping with a black womwn in africa... great accomlishment... plus she hears snipers and who did kill vince foster... whitewateer , fbigate, travelgate... rose law firm... oh by the way she failed the bar exam in wash dc... brilliant .. just brilliant... plus she’s a commie.. unsuitable for any public office. surrounded by idiots and scumbags...please zip the fly on yur pantsuits pig.


19 posted on 01/14/2014 7:25:03 PM PST by zzwhale
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Hillary? You mean Monical Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife?

Is this the leadership they seek?

Hillary Fired For “Lying, Unethical Behavior”on Watergate Committee

20 posted on 01/14/2014 9:19:08 PM PST by QT3.14 (Governments job is not to redistribute our things - it is to protect our liberties)
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To: what's up
Hillary is the most uninspiring speaker ever. The public never got a chance to discover this because Obama won the last Dem primary. When people finally hear her they will wonder, "why on earth is this woman so famous"?

I completely disagree with you on what people will think. For one, the media will tell us how good of a speaker she is.

If Hillary runs, ALL the RATS will vote for her, regardless of how they feel about her personally. That is the main lesson that the GOP needs to understand, learn and practice. If we put up someone less than perfect, we all need to come out and vote for them. We can't get hung up on the 1 out of 10 dislikes, thus "I'm going to stay home on election day". That is how we got into this mess, the right staying home in 2008 and 2012 - and just look how much they "drive the BMW" on a daily basis. Until we learn how to vote like the RATS we are going to loose elections, PERIOD.

21 posted on 01/15/2014 3:22:47 PM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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