Skip to comments.Ted Cruz vs. Rand Paul: A GOP road to nowhere
Posted on 03/18/2014 1:37:04 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Editor's note: Julian Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. He is the author of "Jimmy Carter" and "Governing America."
(CNN) -- ...The weaknesses of both menCruz in terms of his style and Paul in terms of his rhetoricpoint out how desperate the GOP is to find someone who can build a broad coalition, something that is essential for a presidential victory, particularly when Republicans will likely be facing a formidable candidate.
The problems of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have been a huge blow to the party, and there are not many alternatives at this point who are willing to run to replace a figure who, in terms of style of governance and rhetoric, would have a better chance of appealing to voters beyond the base. This is the reason former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is getting so much buzz, as potentially the only other person who can fill this void.
If Republicans can't find some alternative and the primaries revolve around the tension between Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, Democrats will be in excellent position to retain the White House in 2016.
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It’ll be Jeb...just wait
Jeb is one who might repel the electorate more than Hillary.
if a Cruz/Paul ticket is a road to nowhere,what does that make a Wasserman/Dean ticket? a road that leads to a cliff?or a pile of horse manure?
Is this author someone with no axe to grind? Does he share the Constitutionalist viewpoint? Or is he a self-styled pragmatIst with no feeling for or interest in maintaining a Constiutional Republic?
Based on what I read here this guy’s opinions carry no weight with me.
Thanks liberals! It’s good to know you’re helping us!
I was all for Cruz/Paul. But I am disheartened. I don’t hear anything from them about a new foreign policy direction, one that puts guarding our own southern border as the priority. There’s no one in either party that has a vision that will stop the US from falling into the trash heap of failed civilizations, soon.
Probably...but when you examine how the GOP works, he’s the most likely choice for them. (Besides, he’s a Bush, and it’s his turn!)
We’re on the road to nowhere...
Pick two and let’s get out in front of this before we end up with Ryan/Jeb/Willard/or worse...
Wholly unsubstantiated rhetoric in terms of fact and truth.
With all their faults Cruz and Paul will look pretty good, especially if the opponent is Hillary who can be portrayed as a personification of the mistakes and faulty judgment of her husband, W and Obama.
Rand Paul will win.
you have to keep in mind that with a Cruz/Ticket, an hispanic on the ticket,especially as president will take those western states Obama took,especially New Mexico/Colorado/Nevada.
This is a very positive sign. The other way to interpret this is that far left is very much worried that a president Cruz or Paul won’t play by their rules. The more they focus on them, the stronger they surely are.
For a change, Republicans need to do what Custer did in Little Big Man: do the opposite of what they advise.
The Right knows the problem and has the answer. THE problem of the day is big government and the answer is the free market economy. I like Paul because he seems like the strongest proponent for seriously cutting government and taxes and seems to best understand the alternative - the free market.
Whatever else happens, the Right needs to educate itself on how to best present and promote the free market economy as our best and IMO, only, way out of this mess.
Seems to me like everytime the Pubs run an RHINO they lose; and when they run a true-blood conservative to the core, they win. Someone has defined insanity as “doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting things to change.” Washington needs to be “turned upside down,” the status quo is no longer relevant, they are only serving to be nails in America’s coffin.
Julian Zelizer is a liberal who argues that Obamacare didn't go far enough and the Democrats should emulate Ted Kennedy.
His point of view is pretty predictable, but he gives his opinions a spin or twist. Even that gets predictable, as the spin or twist always seems to be that Democrats should be bolder and more aggressive, that there's too much bipartisanship in Washington, at least on the Democrats part.
Cruz versus Paul, though, doesn't look like a great choice. On the other hand, when is the last time there were really great choices in presidential elections?
Both guys are an improvement over some of the candidates in the last race. Limited experience, though is a problem both men face (I know -- lack of experience didn't hurt Barack Obama, but how did that work out for the country?).
Cruz is “weak” but their guy Barry is a tower of strength. Right.
Methinks the Professor has adopted premises that would never fly at this venue. What he thinks is practical politics simply reflects the false premises so common in the shallow world of contemporary American Academia.
What we need is not an echo--to paraphrase Phyllis Schlafly's classic from 1960--but a real choice--else what is the point?!
“an hispanic on the ticket,especially as president will take those western states Obama took”
You are dreaming. Cruz did worse than Cornyn among hispanics in Texas.
Hispanics don’t care about race. They just want “free stuff”.
That's exactly how I see it. We've been in wars for 100 years and that has taken its toll in blood, treasure and a collapsed economy.
Hillary want's to break the glass ceiling by being the first women to be a war time president. And whichever republican you site, once you scrape off the talk, they are all bomb, bomb, bomb McCains.
The USA needs someone that wants to preserve America and not the world. Any such person to emerge, will be blown out of the water by the military industrial complex and foreign interests.
Always good to hear from a left wing a## hole about how we on the right need to vote. If you think 6 million that stayed away from the polls in 2012 wait tell 20 million don’t show up in 2016. Jeb is a weak sister on his best day.
I was thinking that he'd be too old, but actually he'd only be 63 (7 years younger than his brother and Bill Clinton, 6 years younger than Hillary). That's not all that old for a president.
But if the country isn't tired of the Clinton-Bush generation, it's certainly tired of the Bushes (and maybe of the Clintons as well -- a big reason Hillary didn't win the first time she ran).
Paul has already come out against conservatives.
And Chris Christie, who Zelizer seemed to think a threat, is another echo.
I would like to see your numbers on the Hispanic vote in Texas.
safe to assume that criz/paul will be on the ticket,but who will they be up against? Clinton/Kerry? lol
Always love it when the lefties at CNN tell me how conservatives aren’t the right choice
Why would the majority of GOP voters vote for anybody who is for amnesty for illegal immigrants?
There are still enough around who don't believe that makes him a NBC and won't vote for him for that reason alone.
And, the demonrats will argue that even obama supposedly was born in America, unlike Ted Cruz, and use his foreign birth against him and his supporters.
I expect that to all be ignored by his faithful Cruz for Prez hopefuls, but don't say I and others didn't warn you, way ahead of time.
I like Paul, but am afraid that by 2016 he will not be overcome the MSM offensive that will paint him as a bigot and a racist.
Cruz is American, and fully qualified to be president.
As long as Paul keeps taking it to the conservatives, and embracing the GOPe, then the media will treat him fine.
It is the conservatives that the media really go after.
Paul’s a pro-amnesty guy.
No. But thanks for playing.
And yes, I’ve read the relavent articles and seen how he’s voted.
I'm not going to argue it with you and don't want the management to ban me, but I suspect the demonrats will bring it up and hang that charge on the party of Nixon.
Good luck with that.
Indeed Paul is pro-amnesty and you shouldn’t inaccurately post otherwise here.
Here’s just one quote:
Are you willing to try to bring the 11 million people who are here, bring them out of the shadows, give them an existence, try to be more humane, and try to get a better situation for them? That could happen tomorrow, Paul said on ABCs This Week.
The problem is, is the sticking point going to be we have to have immediate voting privileges for those who came here illegally, Paul added. If the Democrats are willing to come halfway, I think we can pass some meaningful reform.
I love it when the Libtards start to care about who we nominate for Presdient. :-)
exactly, the left said that Reagan would be the easiest to beat too :)
That must have been quite a grade school that taught you that “under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 Cruz was born in 1970 someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruzs mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s.”
Not hard to understand at all. So simple even a fifth or sixth grader can understand it.
It's all the exceptions people come up with that are hard to understand, like your example as written in your post, for instance.
If you disagree with the Cato institute and think that Senator Cruz is not qualified to be President, then you should go to this thread to argue it.
How did he vote on the immigration bill? Agains it you say.... Hhmmm, that’s not very “amnesty” like.
How about his 11mil out of the shadows comment there? Was it “amnesty” with full citizenship like Reagan did? No? They’d go to the back of the immigration line and lose all of their current benefits? Well shoot, that’s not much of an “amnesty” either...
Wasn’t there something about finishing the border wall and making any reforms contigent upon an annual Congressional panel afirming the border being “secured”?
Well darn, that ain’t very “amnesty”/pro-illegal immigrant either.
So maybe it’s YOU doing the lying here...
Who’s your favorite for POTUS? Christie or Jeb?
Amnesty has nothing to do with finishing a border wall. Making them eligible for citizenship, albeit a tad delayed, is amnesty.
And of course I’m not for Jeb or Christie, who are two more pro-amnesty types.
Cruz is probably the best we have.