Skip to comments.The Last Chance for the GOP Establishment, Get Bush or Christie the Nomination
Posted on 04/10/2014 8:02:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The horses are lining up in the gates. Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee (seriously hes going to run again I think) Rick Santorum (this guy has nothing else to do), Jeb Bush, Rick Perry may make another run, and who knows who else, are all chomping at the bit. The 2016 nomination isnt that far away. They can all taste it.
Within this battle for the GOP nomination is a battle for the Republican Party of course. Will the hostile takeover of the party continue or will the GOP revert to another establishment retread at the helm. Will the social conservatives make a real effort? (Theyll try, but will fail ultimately.) Will a coalition between the remnants of the Christian Coalition and the establishment counter the Tea Party/libertarian trend within the party?
Fundamentally the question is whether the GOP will become a 21st Century party based on the principals of liberty, opportunity, entrepreneurship and innovation, of new ideas, or whether it will try to scrape out one last win with the big government conservatives embodied by Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. Will the GOP ever actually be the party of small government or is it destined to remain a big government of another kind party?
The neoconservatives and DC GOP establishment would prefer the latter. They are not interested in a smaller government at all. They are interested in a big government which has a different emphasis than the one the Dems prefer. For them small government is nothing but a talking point (and one which they dont even use that much any more) to placate the rubes who in their view can be placated by such talk. Why should the GOP actually be for reducing the power of the federal government? That just means reducing the power of the GOP to execute the programs it wants when it is in power.
The neocons have defined the GOP agenda both domestically and abroad for 2 generations now. The party which was once the grown up party concerned with Soviet expansion but very sober in its foreign policy, the party which would have recognized programs such as No Child Left Behind as federal power grabs was by the 1990s no more. By then the small government folks (and there were only a very few left even during the Reagan presidency) had been replaced by a crew of Utopian dreamers as happy to pass Medicare Part D as they were to wage 2 land wars in Asia. But they werent conservatives. They werent for small government. They werent for reducing the power vested in Washington DC. They were neo-conservatives which generally speaking are for big government. As big as the Dems. (At least.)
What conservative says that deficits dont matter? But thats what Dick Cheney once said.
The neocons and establishment GOP (they are not exactly one and the same) also share something besides the love of big government with the Democrats. They loathe the Tea Party. I mean loathe the Tea Party.
Those idiots in the tri-cornered hats, reading the Constitution, and making life difficult for Speaker Boehner, have crashed the big government conservative shindig. Whats worse? The Tea Party is way bigger than the neocon crew.
And in addition to being a larger faction than the neocons the Tea Party people know how to leverage social media. The neocons are limited to emailing their wonky friends in DC and New York.
The establishment GOP deeply resents the current citizen revolt. Take for instance the time Speaker Boehner referred to small government advocates in the House as knuckle draggers. Or when Bush Treasury Secretary Mr. Hank Paulson lamented that the Internet and the Tea Party made things difficult for the powers that be.
The establishment wants to hand the Tea Party a defeat. It wants to put the Tea Party in its place. Why dont you people just go back to whatever you people do in flyover country and leave the ruling er I mean, governing, to us.
This is what Pat Caddell, one of the smartest political minds I know thinks too. He had this to say about the establishment GOP and IRS scandal in February.
Thats right. Caddell thinks the establishment GOP isnt really pursuing the IRS harassment of Tea Party groups because they WANT the Tea Party groups harassed.
The establishment GOP knows that very soon many of them could be swept from the game. They know that they are this close to finding themselves deep in the political wilderness at the hands of what used to be their own party. That is why this group is desperate to get someone they own as the GOP nominee. Chris Christie would be good, but Jeb from Florida would be even better. Just think of all the jobs (in government and on K Street) which will be generated for Bush II alums if Jeb becomes president.
This is why the big Jeb Bush Push started over the last 2 weeks or so. With Christie hobbled a bit by his state issues, Bush has an opening. He has a chance to woo the New York banking money which looked ready to flow to to the New Jersey governor. (Even Bushes need the backing of the big money.)
The Republican wing of the 2 party power structure knows that it is under serious threat. They want to force a situation where the small government wing of the GOP holds its nose and supports the big government establishment candidate because Hillary Clinton is even worse than Jeb or Christie. The establishment thinks that if it can just appeal to a few more women than Romney did its fat city again in Washington for them. The Tea Party and the libertarians will have no choice (they think) but to fall in line. This is the play.
But this calculus assumes quite a lot. The main reason Romney lost was because he didnt have the support of the small government folks, and Christie or Bush very likely might find themselves in the same situation in 2016 if they were to get the nomination. In fact it might be even worse for the establishment Republicans because they no longer control the majority of the GOP electorate. The Tea Party and the libertarians (who in some cases are the same people) appear to be in the majority and their numbers are growing.
The establishment thought it could wait out the insurgents. That before long the small government folks would be brought into the fold. But for the most part they havent been. Now the last ditch is getting one of their guys, Bush, Christie or one of the lower tier but establishment acceptable candidates into the White House. If the neocons and DC establishment GOP have a president which tows the line the Tea Party will have no choice but to tow it right with him.
Or so they think.
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Please read the article.
But I've been saying that for over a decade.
This election is the GOP-E's to lose.
Republicans aren't going to the White House without the TEA Party, better please 'em.
The GOP supports Obama.
There is STILL ObamaCARE.
Bye, bye GOP.
If they're truly conservative, I'll vote for them.
If they're not conservative -- or worse, pretend-conservatives -- I'll spit on them.
Romney was their last chance.
conservativeis that it can quite well mean
keeping things the same.
YOU'RE OUT !!!
Tired of being used. Not a Conservative, I won’t vote. I don’t care WHO the Dims run, I’ve been done with that “lesser evil” thing for awhile. Evil is evil.
I would vote for an epileptic monkey before Bush or Christie - in the primary. In the main event, anyone running against the fascist/socialist ‘rats.
I would lump libertarians with the RINO’s not with the TEA Party
Not just no but he!! NO!!!!!!!
What if the nominee is Ted Cruz or Rand Paul?
No matter who runs, we can be sure that the American people will pick the wrong horse AGAIN!
Rinse, lather, repeat.
The Whigs have learned nothing.
“Will the GOP ever actually be the party of small government or is it destined to remain a big government of another kind party?
The neoconservatives and DC GOP establishment would prefer the latter. They are not interested in a smaller government at all. They are interested in a big government which has a different emphasis than the one the Dems prefer. For them small government is nothing but a talking point (and one which they dont even use that much any more) to placate the rubes who in their view can be placated by such talk.”
I will vote Republican with a 90 rating or better.
I could support and be happy with either Cruz or Paul, even through quite different.
I believe both support the Constitution.
Will not support or vote for another bush.
If Bush or Christie are the nominees I’ll say the hell with it and not support either.
Real conservative or go fish.
JEFF BUSH AND THE END OF THE GOP
Crime: The Open Borders Lobby’s Dirty Little Secret
By FrontPage Magazine
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 4, 2005
On August 26, 2005, the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, and the Coalition for Immigration Reform of California co-sponsored a conference on illegal immigration at the Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Beverly Hills, California. Below are the transcripts of speeches given by three of the participants in that conference: Heather MacDonald, a John M. Olin fellow at the Manhattan Institute; Dr. James Edwards, an Adjunct Fellow at the Hudson Institute; and Dr. Glynn Custred, a Professor of Anthropology at California State University, the East Bay. All three touch on the interrelated nature of illegal immigration and crime in American society. — The Editors.
Heather MacDonald: Thank you. Im honored to be here at this beautiful spot with such an extraordinary group of thinkers.
I think I detected in Mr. Hayworths presentation this morning a slight note of irony towards the mainstream media. I want to continue that a little bit on their treatment of illegal immigration, and take as my text for this morning a Washington Post editorial from August 10th called, The Reality of Gangs. Now, the title was misleading. It would have more appropriately been called, The Unreality of Media Coverage of the Illegal Alien Crime Wave.
The editorial describes the unending series of maimings, stabbings, killings, that have been unleashed recently in the Northern Virginia area by Mara Salvatrucha usually shortened in the media to M13 a gang predominantly of Salvadoran descent that has spread from its home in Los Angeles across the country.
And predictably the Washington Post called for more social programs to try to dissuade ever-younger Hispanics from joining the gangster life theyre starting at ages 8-12 now. Ive seen a picture of a class of kids from Shenandoah standing in front of the Washington Memorial in D.C. flashing gang signals.
Even as the Post called for more social spending, it completely ignored the most salient feature of Mara Salvatrucha, which is the astoundingly high number of illegals within its ranks. The Justice Department estimates that more than 50 percent of all members of Mara Salvatrucha are illegal. I talked to an LAPD Officer who deals with this gang daily, and he puts the figures much higher. Ive heard cops tell me they think its almost 100 percent. I think thats too high, but its somewhere between there.
AWAKE AMERICA - READ THE REST OF THE ARTICLE
singing to the choir
Hillary will crush either one like a bug.
I don't think the GOPe WANTS the presidency. Having the presidency would make them accountable for results. I think they think it's more pleasant and profitable to play ball with the Dems as the pseudo-opposition party. To maintain the PRETENSE of opposing the Dems, while not really doing any thing to stop their agenda, much less roll any part of it back.
They get more money from the base when they are on the outside whining about how they need more campaign money so they can defeat those evil Dems.
It’s like when you were a kid and your shoes wore out and your mom put a piece of limoleum inside to cover the hole in the sole and maybe get a little more ware out of it before you toss them in the trash. senario.
The neocons have defined the GOP agenda both domestically and abroad for 2 generations now.And here's the problem.
The majority of so-called neoconservatives are actually Scoop Jackson Democrats.
Why? Look what happened to the dems. They thought with Obama they'd have an anti-war, improve the cities president. When Obama turned out to be a war-mongerer who can read a teleprompter somewhat well but can't think, the antiwar movement stopped existing. If we get a neo-com sellout Republican President, that would be more stifling to a majority of 'pubs being constitutional conservatives in the HOR, even gaining some traction in the Seunate. We constitutional conservatives will be better off as a vocal voice against hillary or whatever than as a cheering squad for Jeb, Christie, or whatever member of the club they try to sneak by us. I'll only vote for a Repbulican nominee who has a voting record and has shown the correct instincts in speaking about fast-moving events.
Either way, maybe we'll see the end of the neocom globalist/anti-US citizen wing of the Republican Party.
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