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Sarah Palinís Barbarism
The National Review's The Corner ^ | April 28, 2014 | Patrick Brennan, associate editor

Posted on 04/28/2014 1:20:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s been no secret for a while that Sarah Palin, erstwhile vice-president candidate, is no longer a serious political contender — for evidence of that transition, note that even among her faithful, at CPAC this year, she got just 2 percent of the vote in the straw poll, tied with Condoleezza Rice. But as her crowd-pleasing performance in the very final speech of that event — and her lucrative contract with Fox News and huge social-media following — indicate, she’s gone from being a potential political leader to something of a cultural totem.

That means her speeches have gone from being standard political pablum to something even more substanceless — more or less a long string of hokey but often amusing jokes. But for all the lightheartedness, her appeal is to a set of people who take seriously their commitment to faith and freedom, right? Well, should this line garner laughs from such a crowd?

Oh, but you can’t offend [Islamic terrorists], can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

As Rod Dreher explains, this is pretty perverse:

"Not only is this woman, putatively a Christian, praising torture, but she is comparing it to a holy sacrament of the Christian faith. It’s disgusting — but even more disgusting, those NRA members, many of whom are no doubt Christians, cheered wildly for her. . . . Palin and all those who cheered her sacrilegious jibe ought to be ashamed of themselves. For us Christians, baptism is the entry into new life. Palin invoked it to celebrate torture. Even if you don’t believe that waterboarding is torture, surely you agree that it should not be compared to baptism, and that such a comparison should be laughed at. What does it say about the character of a person that they could make that joking comparison, and that so many people would cheer for it. Nothing good — and nothing that does honor to the cause of Jesus Christ."

Torture — waterboarding being something reasonable people may consider to constitute it — is and should be a question of grave moral consequence for Christians, and is for any Catholic familiar with the Catechism. Palin wasn’t even just jokingly comparing a serious violation of human dignity into one of the most important transcendental recognitions of it – she was mounting an expansive defense of something near torture, on the grounds that our prisoners ”would obviously have information on plots,” and therefore ought to, apparently, be subjected to a horrible practice not as a morally necessary last resort but a habit of quotidian intimidation. There’s a word for that kind of practice: barbaric. The Greeks used to use it to describe the other guys.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: catholics; christianity; palin; pds; rentfree; rinos4jebbush; sarahpalin; waterboarding
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Patrick Brennan is an associate editor at National Review. As a William F. Buckley Fellow at the National Review Institute from 2011 to 2013, he covered a special election in New York’s ninth congressional district, sparred with Senator Rand Paul over who should run the Federal Reserve, and became very familiar with Mitt Romney’s tax returns. In addition to editing for the magazine and NRO, he writes on economic and fiscal policy, along with a sprinkling of foreign affairs. He also works as a part-time assistant for Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan.

In 2011, he received a degree in Classics with high honors from Harvard College, where he was managing editor of The Harvard Salient, competed on the sailing team, and served as chancellor of the Knights of Columbus council. In 2013, he was a Publius Fellow at the Claremont Institute. His work has been cited by, among others, Forbes, The Economist, The Week, and Real Clear Politics. He has appeared on Canada’s Sun News Network, Al Jazeera America, Mike Huckabee’s radio show, and other radio programs.

Does that explain his angle?

1 posted on 04/28/2014 1:20:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gov Palin was great....this article is just another establishment story.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 1:23:42 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pat must be the life of the party...the only guy in the room who didn’t get the joke


3 posted on 04/28/2014 1:25:13 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another RINO libtard who takes himself way too seriously. It was a red meat punchline. To be taken literally only if you have an agenda.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 1:29:08 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too Fing bad for the author of this article.

Ye she could be more diplomatic but let’s get something straight.

Islam is an inferior Third World religion there is no society on Earth it has benefited.

It is one of the most intolerant movements on Earth.

We are not going to survive by kissing their butts while they demolish Christian Churches and take people’s freedoms.

This whole concern with Islam is perverse. Damn straight the world would be better off if those lands are converted to Christianity.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 1:29:36 PM PDT by Williams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So he’s a jejune prig? Why does NR specialize in this brand of editor? I guess I get it, by the clone theory of hiring, there’s a nest of them there and they just keep attracting more of the same.

Jeesh!


6 posted on 04/28/2014 1:29:51 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank God we have Ivy League elites to tell us what ordinary Americans think about things.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 1:30:09 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: nhwingut

Miserable ObamaCARE-promoting, gay marriage-imposing,
and open borders-loving, TEAM ROMNEY continues
its attack on American conservatives.

The GOP is Enemy of America and Freedom

G.O.P. = Gave. Obama. Power.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 1:31:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article tells us more about National Review than it does about Sarah Palin.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 1:31:15 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Patrick, even the most "impressive" resume matters naught at times.

10 posted on 04/28/2014 1:32:06 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But, is she a contender for leading a forceful reclamation of natural rights? If said reclamation does start, this girly man should seek shelter in one of the many leftist crap holes that will remain such.
11 posted on 04/28/2014 1:32:13 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Yes, that’s what I meant.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 1:32:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do these presstitutes have nothing else to do but write about a failed 1/2 term quitter governor like Palin?


13 posted on 04/28/2014 1:32:51 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: definitelynotaliberal
You know, Dan Quayle, Dick Cheney, Al Gore and Fritz Mondale actually were vice presidents and when was the last time you heard a peep about any of them? LOL
14 posted on 04/28/2014 1:36:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Water board Patrick Brennan.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 1:38:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Yeah they should write about failed freepers like you. Honestly, you should stop posting. Your socialist cloaking device stopped working months ago.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 1:38:21 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is another hit piece from National Review's Robert Costa:

Sarah Palin soldiers on as a diminished figure in the Republican Party

17 posted on 04/28/2014 1:41:39 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: definitelynotaliberal

You know, I also thought it odd so many would still support her after she quit her governorship mid term, her only national political position.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 1:43:20 PM PDT by fishtacos
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To: definitelynotaliberal
I don't see the point in antagonizing her fan club.

She ceased to be a serious political player a long time ago, and the waterboard/baptize comment was an unserious comment from an unserious person.

19 posted on 04/28/2014 1:43:21 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: TigersEye; Regulator; svcw; nhwingut; Williams; 9YearLurker; Hugin; Diogenesis; Da Bilge Troll; ...

Hahahahahaha! Guess who?

20 posted on 04/28/2014 1:45:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha. Sorry.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 1:46:12 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: GunRunner

22 posted on 04/28/2014 1:46:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

No, I was just agreeing with you.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 1:47:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John Elway?


24 posted on 04/28/2014 1:48:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: fishtacos

Hahahahaha! How that Pizza Uno? Any new flavors or varieties? Soros still buying?


25 posted on 04/28/2014 1:49:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shuuush listen can you hear.... i.e. Willaim Buckley turning in his grave..
National Review has be Sodomized..


26 posted on 04/28/2014 1:49:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Disgusting statement on Palin’s part. Clearly she has given up any idea of participation in serious conversation, having opted to toss chunks of red meat to yahoos. This isn’t statesmanship; it’s self-parody as performance art.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 1:50:55 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His problem is that she said that to spin people up and that he, among others, fell for it hook, line, and sinker. That's actually sort of interesting - over time it inoculates her against the sort of hyperbolic misrepresentation that so damaged her during the 2008 election.

He's welcome to greet that remark with grim seriousness and outrage but he risks looking like a humorless dork in doing so. Point, Palin, IMHO.

28 posted on 04/28/2014 1:51:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GunRunner

yet....

Not only do you marginalize a person that truly cares about this country and did the all steps to claim that mountain but you somehow think you are all that by claiming she doesn’t.

You sir not only are infected by the disease that the effects the body politic but indeed you are a carrier...


29 posted on 04/28/2014 1:51:50 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The word “baptism” has long been used in a wide variety of contexts that have nothing to do with the Christian sacrament of baptism, and no one ever said that these usages were perverse or sacrilegious. For example, you might read about a soldier: “My baptism in combat occurred on just the third day of my tour, when we were ambushed by insurgents just outside of Fallujah.” Or in a football game you might hear: “Smith’s injury will bring in Jones, the redshirt Freshman quarterback who will have a baptism under fire here in the fourth quarter with the game on the line.”


30 posted on 04/28/2014 1:51:58 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Romulus

So you went from being her biggest fan to condemn... Oh, wait, you always disliked her, didn’t you?


31 posted on 04/28/2014 1:52:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow, very Sharptonesque.

Yep, the Palin cult is alive and well, and ready to strike.

32 posted on 04/28/2014 1:52:22 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Indeed.


33 posted on 04/28/2014 1:52:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: definitelynotaliberal
Do these presstitutes have nothing else to do but write about a failed 1/2 term quitter governor like Palin?

..from a state that elected Jesse Ventura as Governor and Al Franken senator?

You could only dream of having a woman for a 1/2 term like Sarah Palin.

If Sarah would have had a Conservative at the top of the ticket instead of Juan "Amnesty" MeCain it would be a different story.

..and a MeCain campaign manager like Steve 'asshole" Schimdt demeaning and belittling her during the campaign.

34 posted on 04/28/2014 1:52:57 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s called “a joke.”


35 posted on 04/28/2014 1:53:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 9YearLurker

A jejune prig! I love it. I hate to say it but Buckley set that tone years ago. It’s why it was never my favorite conservative rag.


36 posted on 04/28/2014 1:54:54 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: winoneforthegipper
You sir not only are infected by the disease that the effects the body politic but indeed you are a carrier...

Haha! Yep, onward Palin soldiers. Strike down the Satanists who oppose her!

37 posted on 04/28/2014 1:55:07 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: TexasCajun

It’s even worse here. We have Sen. Amy Klobuchar. After the floods here of 2009, she said she was going to seek funding for some reconstruction projects because “it is the role of gov’t. to make people happy.”


38 posted on 04/28/2014 1:56:38 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: GunRunner

I assure you I haven’t killed anyone that I know of, so the comparison to Al Sharpton doesn’t seem to fit. Strawman much?


39 posted on 04/28/2014 1:56:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: miss marmelstein

I hear you on that, though at least he himself outgrew the jejune part.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 1:57:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Romulus

First time I’ve been called a Yahoo. If like Palin makes me a Yahoo, I embrace the term.


41 posted on 04/28/2014 1:57:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Romulus; GunRunner
My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.
42 posted on 04/28/2014 1:59:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fits fine. The Palin crowd seem to be the only conservatives who'd even dream of playing the misogyny card in the way Rev. Al plays the race card, all because we don't share the same taste in non-elected political personalities.
43 posted on 04/28/2014 2:00:05 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wanted to like her but have never considered her ready for the major leagues. And her neocon sympaties are downright dangerous. She has the good looks and quirky appeal to do well on Fox. That’s where she belongs.


44 posted on 04/28/2014 2:00:56 PM PDT by Romulus
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I'd ACIDboard terrorists.

How far the mighty have fallen...

45 posted on 04/28/2014 2:01:02 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Islam makes barbarism look genteel. What’s this guys problem?


46 posted on 04/28/2014 2:01:57 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is one in Ft. Worth, an hour away. Never been but hear it’s good.


47 posted on 04/28/2014 2:02:10 PM PDT by fishtacos
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To: Zhang Fei

With Reagan, that was horsing around with an accidentally open mic. With Palin, that would be the speech. She will never be in his class.

Can you honestly ever see RR shilling for torture?


48 posted on 04/28/2014 2:04:29 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All he needs is his plaid onesie and hot cup of tea!
49 posted on 04/28/2014 2:06:39 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just as I thought.


50 posted on 04/28/2014 2:14:15 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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