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Fear Of Hillary Clinton Leads Conservatives To Illogically Blame Her For Boko Haram
PoliticusUSA - Real Liberal Politics ^ | May 10, 2014 | Justin Baragona

Posted on 05/10/2014 5:32:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On April 16th, in Nigeria, about 250 schoolgirls were kidnapped by the Islamist militant group Boko Haram. The story didn’t become widely known in the US for a while. However, now that efforts are being made by the United States government to assist in recovering these girls, conservatives have decided to use this time to play the blame game. Over the past couple of days, the right-wing media has focused their attentions solely on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Based on the logic they are presenting, Clinton is to blame for Boko Haram’s actions due to her not designating them as a terrorist organization during her tenure as Secretary of State.

First off, for the record, since Clinton left her post, the State Department HAS designated Boko Haram as a terrorist organization. Under John Kerry, Boko Haram was named to the terror watch list in November 2013. Therefore, it seems silly to claim that Boko Haram felt emboldened to act in this manner, or that the United States ignored the group, simply because Clinton decided not to list them as a terrorist organization back then. The fact is, THEY ARE ON THE LIST. This kidnapping didn’t occur on Hillary Clinton’s watch. It happened less than a month ago. She hasn’t been Secretary of State for over a year.

However, that is the basic crux of the conservative argument. It doesn’t matter what has happened since. Hillary Clinton didn’t label the group Boko Haram as a terrorist organization in her last couple years as SoS, therefore she is solely to blame. Below is an excerpt from an article Andrew McCarthy of National Review wrote on Thursday saying just that:

"What happened here is obvious, although the commentariat is loath to connect the dots. Boko Haram is an Islamic-supremacist organization. Mrs. Clinton, like the Obama administration more broadly, believes that appeasing Islamists — avoiding actions that might give them offense, slamming Americans who provoke them — promotes peace and stability. (See Egypt for a good example of how well this approach is working.) Furthermore, if you are claiming to have “decimated” al-Qaeda, as the Obama administration was claiming to have done in the run-up to the 2012 election, the last thing you want to do is add jihadists to the terror list (or beef up security at diplomatic posts in jihadist hot spots, or acknowledge that jihadist rioting in Cairo or jihadist attacks in Benghazi are something other than “protests” inspired by “an Internet video” . . .)

Former Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who is now a pundit for CNN, wrote something similar on Friday:

"It is so clearly and vividly a terrorist organization that it seems indefensible that the State Department would have refused to designate it as such. A thorough investigation of the decision process that protected Boko Haram from 2011 until late 2013 could be devastating."

"Now that Boko Haram has attracted worldwide attention for its vicious assault on young girls, political leaders, including the former secretary of state, are rushing to issue emotionally powerful but practically meaningless statements."

"Hillary Clinton tweeted: “Access to education is a basic right & an unconscionable reason to target innocent girls. We must stand up to terrorism. #BringBackOurGirls”

"Clinton’s tweet contrasts vividly with her failure to stand up to terrorism in 2011 by calling Boko Haram what it was."

I am sure that Gingrich’s longtime hatred of the Clintons didn’t cloud his judgment one bit with how he is seeing this. Not one bit.

And so it goes on the right. Everybody who writes for a conservative site, appears on Fox News or hosts a right-wing radio show is jumping on this train. It doesn’t matter to them how illogical it is to blame Clinton for what has occurred. Worse, they aren’t even really looking at the reasons why Sec. Clinton didn’t list Boko Haram as a terrorist organization during her tenure. Howard LaFranchi at the Christian Science Monitor said the following in his article on Saturday:

"Boko Haram was not seen as a direct threat yet to the US and its interests – although some members of Congress pressing for the designation noted that other local or regional groups had evolved into threats to the US. That was especially true of groups that grew to become affiliates of Al Qaeda. Boko Haram was considered by some experts to be “linked” to Al Qaeda because of its known contacts with groups such as Al Qaeda in the Maghreb."

"So the argument to list was largely one in favor of preventive action. But opposed to that position were two dozen Africa and terrorism experts who advocated for not listing Boko Haram, saying a designation by the US risked raising the group’s international profile and prestige – and therefore might accomplish for the group exactly what those seeking designation said they sought to prevent."

"In a letter to Clinton, the 24 specialists – including a former US ambassador to Nigeria – argued that designating Boko Haram might encourage the group to redirect its focus and start targeting US and Western interests. Listing Boko Haram also entailed risks for the US, the scholars argued, because it would have the effect of associating the US more closely with the counterterrorism campaign of the Nigerian government, which international human rights groups had faulted for being carried out with summary executions and little regard for civilian rights."

"Complicating the question of the pros and cons of associating more closely with the Nigerian government was the fact that the government of Nigeria, a US partner in a sea of African instability and conflict, was strongly opposed to a US listing of Boko Haram."

To add, the State Department may not have added Boko Haram as a terrorist organization at that time, but three leaders of the organization were added to the list of terrorist individuals while Clinton was at State. This wasn’t an issue of appeasement of an Islamist terrorist group. This was more about trying to make the right decision at the time while taking into consideration numerous other factors. It is obvious that Clinton, as Secretary of State, took her job very seriously and didn’t want to rash decisions. She wanted to take everything into account.

The only reason conservatives are grabbing on to this narrative is the fear of Hillary in 2016. They are hoping that this can piggyback on to Benghazi and hopefully smear Clinton enough in the eyes of the average American voter. The fact is that Hillary Clinton’s dominating in the polls right now, and that scares the bejesus out of the right. This will not be the last attempt by Republicans to bash, insult and defame Clinton before 2016.


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I love the comments that compare Secretary Hillary Clinton to Governor Sarah Palin.
1 posted on 05/10/2014 5:32:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Benghazi MANDPADS Clinton.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 5:35:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a strong parallel with how most leftists/liberals during the Cold War era were proudly “anti” anti-communists. Now Hillary and co. are anti-anti-terrorism, no matter what their pretences when they are put in the spotlight over specific terrorist attacks.

Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. Blocked Terrorist Designation for Boko Haram
By Andrew C. McCarthy

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/377538/hillary-clintons-state-dept-blocked-terrorist-designation-boko-haram-andrew-c-mccarthy

“The Left, by contrast, seems to believe that “Islamists” — adherents of Islamic supremacism (though the Left would not refer to “Islamic supremacism”) — are motivated not by an ideology derived from scriptural commands but by American policies that promote national defense, pursue other U.S. interests, and regard Israel as a key ally. Indeed, progressives like Mrs. Clinton are anti-anti-terrorists in the sense that they portray the national-security right as a greater threat than Islamic supremacism.”


3 posted on 05/10/2014 5:37:35 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one is blaming her for Boco Loco. We just want to hear her explain why she resisted for years calling them terrorists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc


4 posted on 05/10/2014 5:38:00 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With all of the weapons that the US has provided to "freedom fighters" and friendly governments in Africa and the mideast, it's totally reasonable to ask about the source of Boku Haran's weapons and what if any connection does that group have to the Benghazi terrorists.

Geeeze...what are the hillary cheerleaders so sensitive about?

5 posted on 05/10/2014 5:39:15 PM PDT by grania
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe they can ask moveon.org why they made a petition wanting the Obama Administration to NOT call this group a terrorist one..LOL no one is afraid of Hillary Clinton..she is her own worst nightmare, a cold blooded murderer..which is a big plus for the left since they are the party of murder


6 posted on 05/10/2014 5:39:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Big Media must be really worried about this if they’re already trying to innoculate Hillary.


7 posted on 05/10/2014 5:40:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The media-left keeps creating a silly straw man argument by pretending that the criticism is that Hillary is SOLELY responsible for Boko Haram.

The issue is that she did NOTHING about them and in particular did not follow strong recommendations from other depts. (Justice and the intel community) to add them to the terrorism list.

Ofc this would not have eliminated Boko Haram, but it would have provide some tools for combating. The question is not whether Hillary could somehow have eliminated them entirely, it is whether she did anything at all and in particular whether or not she took the obvious measure available to her.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 5:40:28 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fear Of Hillary Clinton Leads Conservatives To Illogically Blame Her For Boko Haram

Hillary Clinton's failure to deal with Boko Haram is simply one example of the uniform incompetence consistently demonstrated by all democrats in dealing with threats to our nation and our neighbors.

Of course it's blame - she's part of the universally corrupt machine that drives the democrat party, some say the soon to be heir apparent to the socialist crown.

9 posted on 05/10/2014 5:42:08 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, it’s true that it’s Obama’s fault, since she was about the dumbest, most powerless SOS ever and only did what the boss told her...which was usually to stay out of sight except when she had to take the hit for something he or one of his advisors had done.

Obama had a Muslim-terrorist friendly policy all through those years, and Hillary sure wasn’t going to be the one to oppose it. She just followed orders.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 5:45:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: Caipirabob

What Idiot would fear Ms. Clinton, don’t think any freepers do


11 posted on 05/10/2014 5:45:35 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: DManA

I am waiting for the statement about how distraught she is about the girls and how this was unforeseen.

The Clintons are trying to get all of her baggage (read record) out of the way so in 2016 they can claim it is all old business and has been dealt with.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 5:49:09 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: livius

IIRC Hillarys assistant was connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. She is responsible for that.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 5:50:20 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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14 posted on 05/10/2014 5:50:44 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, does that mean every time Hillary attacks a Republican that means she fears them?


15 posted on 05/10/2014 5:52:09 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: grania

Unsecured Libyan Weapons Went to Boko Haram
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3153710/posts


16 posted on 05/10/2014 5:52:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The primary target of Boko Haram has been Christians, their churches and schools. Yes, any Muslim that wants their daughter educated is also in their crosshairs. Any Muslim that wants their son to learn anything other than the Koran is also a target. However the prime targets are Christian. That’s why our State Department protected them.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 5:52:50 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: morphing libertarian

I think the following is an important point to make for anyone who can get the attention of national media plus real conservative leaders speaking out against Hillary.

Moveon.org now claims that this petition effort is irrelevant because it only received (they claim) around 100 signatures. They are running away from the issue and claiming that the petition was obscure. Now they do not dare to defend HILLARY’s own policy.Statement in response to Rep. Stockman’s bogus “MoveOn supports terrorists” attack
By Anna Galland. Saturday, May 10 2014

BUT now that Moveon.org has been embarrassed enough to remove the petition from their site, the argument must be made that a policy which so embarrasses the leftist clowns at Moveon.org

WAS IN FACT THE POLICY OF THE HILLARY CLINTON STATE DEPARTMENT

Statement in response to Rep. Stockman’s bogus “MoveOn supports terrorists” attack
By Anna Galland. Saturday, May 10 2014

http://front.moveon.org/statement-in-response-to-rep-stockmans-bogus-moveon-supports-terrorists-attack/#.U27H9oFdV8E

Thus, a policy that even Moveon.org now runs away from was in fact Hillary’s policy.... and this was despite strong urgings from our intel community to change this policy!!


18 posted on 05/10/2014 5:52:55 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: JimSEA

Doesn’t “Boko Haram” actually mean “Western education is evil” or some such?


19 posted on 05/10/2014 5:54:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh yeah, I am shaking in my boots here at the prospect of perhaps the most corrupt female politician in U.S. history to oversee this Republic's final demise. Let me take another shot of Jack's to calm my nerves!
20 posted on 05/10/2014 5:54:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: livius
She just followed orders.

The perfect, Nurembergian defense for HRC's tenure as SOS.

21 posted on 05/10/2014 5:55:14 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fear Hitlery? No, we just don’t worship Cankles, ya moron.

Baton passing does not an accomplishment make.

#Hillaryfailedourgirls


22 posted on 05/10/2014 5:55:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe you are exactly correct.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 5:56:02 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: DManA

Because she and huma are in the tank with them.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 5:57:39 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were fricking terrorists! So were those guys at Benghazi! If the smartest woman in the history of mankind can’t recognize a terrorist I don’t want her as Commander-In-Chief.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 6:00:56 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mrs. Baragona’s little Justin is getting his panties in a wad for nothing. Everyone knows that NOTHING sticks to commie ‘RAT, ***hole politicians as longs as they keep promising the ignorant, low information types more handouts and freebies.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 6:25:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who’s afraid of the big bad witch lalalalala


27 posted on 05/10/2014 7:28:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see why we’d credit Hillary with ANYTHING over the last 10 years, from this article. Apparently she is put in charge of things, but doesn’t actually do anything. Not responsible for running the State Department — that’s quite a record.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 9:15:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Based on the logic they are presenting, Clinton is to blame for Boko Haram’s actions due to her not designating them as a terrorist organization during her tenure as Secretary of State.

You might think that, Justin, ... if you're an idiot.

Blaming Hillary for being a useless incompetent twerp is not the same thing as blaming her for the existence of Boko Haram.

29 posted on 05/10/2014 10:28:51 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's a great way to find out what conservatives DON'T believe:

Ask a member of the Propaganda Corps what conservatives DO believe.

30 posted on 05/10/2014 10:59:13 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: aposiopetic

I think it’s becoming increasingly obvious that Hillary really doesn’t do anything on her own. I read an article by George Will this morning saying that Hillary’s problem is that she simply isn’t very competent and is just a political operative, essentially, with no real achievements to show from her time as Senator,SOS, etc.

The question is whether she will ever admit that she was just following orders, or whether she’ll take the blame. She’s definitely loyal to the party and the men in her life and might take the hit for them.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 2:51:45 AM PDT by livius
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