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WATCH: Iowa GOP Senate Candidate Still Believes There Were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq
Mother Jones ^ | May 12, 2014 | Patrick Caldwell, DC Bureau Reporter

Posted on 05/12/2014 6:06:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

War veteran Joni Ernst claims to have vague, secret knowledge that contradicts every public report.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Iowa state senator and US Senate candidate Joni Ernst captured national attention when her campaign's first TV ad featured the candidate talking about castrating hogs (a subsequent ad featured Ernst at a gun range, implying that she'd shoot Obamacare to bits). But if the Sarah Palin-approved Republican wants to enter national politics, she may need to brush up on some of her facts. Ernst still thinks Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction when the US invaded Iraq, despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.

On Friday, Ernst sat down with the Des Moines Register's editorial board for a wide-ranging interview. Ernst served in the Iraq War in 2003, "running convoys through Kuwait and into southern Iraq" according to her campaign website. She defended that war during the interview, saying that the intelligence at the time offered compelling reason to displace Saddam. "Obviously the president thought there was actionable intelligence, she said, "so as an Iraqi War veteran I stand beside that and I'll stand beside every other soldier I served with in believing we were on a clearly defined mission to go into Iraq." (Her response in the video above starts at the 23:20 mark.)

Why is Ernst so willing to support Bush's decision to invade? She hints that she has inside knowledge that there were, indeed, still weapons of mass destruction when the war began. "We don't know that there were weapons on the ground when we went in," she said, "however, I do have reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq." When a Register reporter quizzed her on what information she has, Ernst said "my husband served in Saudi Arabia as the Army Central Command sergeant major for a year and that's a hot-button topic in that area."

Of course, US troops never managed to find any such weapons after the invasion. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld have all conceded that the initial intelligence was flawed.

When asked for clarification, a spokesperson for Ernst's campaign narrowly walked back her comments over e-mail: "Her point was that we know for a fact that Iraq had chemical weapons in the past, and had even used them. We also know none were found while our troops were on the ground, despite the intelligence at the time. What happened to those weapons she doesn't know."

Ernst currently holds a slight lead in the polls in advance of the June 3 primary. If she managed to win the general election—Democrat Bruce Braley is the front-runner for the open seat—Ernst would be the first woman elected to federal office from Iowa.


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2014; gop; iowa; iraq; joniernst; palin; wmd; wot
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Translation: Eight years of beating up on President Bush and defending Mr. Obama goes down the drain if she's right.
1 posted on 05/12/2014 6:06:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left keeps on saying there were no WMD’s in Iraq..so I have a simple question for leftists..where did Assad get those same weapons that he has been using on his own people..did they come out of his butt?


2 posted on 05/12/2014 6:07:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not a great comment to make on the campaign trail, even though she couched it well. Though, there is some element of truth to this. Wasn’t there a well-evidenced theory about them being moved? I think Niger was involved, or maybe Assad. Also, if WMDs include chemo-weapons we know he had those at one point.

Ernst seems like a good candidate and she’d be a vast improvement upon the gargoyle she’s trying to replace. Let’s hope she beats Braley

(P.S - to the Karl Rove shills on their way, don’t bother making fools out of yourselves again)


3 posted on 05/12/2014 6:09:59 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where do these shepherdless sheep think Assad’s WMD’s came from? Sheesh.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 6:10:22 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
The left keeps on saying there were no WMD’s in Iraq..so I have a simple question for leftists..where did Assad get those same weapons that he has been using on his own people..did they come out of his butt?

Of course they did. Just ignore all the plane flights and truck convoys moving from Iraq to Syria before the invasion. They were delivering aspirin, yeah that's the ticket.

5 posted on 05/12/2014 6:11:18 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They believed the WMDs when Clinton was President.....http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp


6 posted on 05/12/2014 6:13:54 PM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Viennacon
Bruce Braley: the “condescending, elitist turd,” as described by the editor of the Albia, IA., newspaper.
7 posted on 05/12/2014 6:16:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bush Cheney and Rove all said they were wrong, and despite the plain facts they said there were no WMDs in Iraq. Anyone who cares to try to explain this historic fiasco is welcome to try. We all saw the pictures of the Russian truck convoys heading toward Syria and the artillery shells we found.
8 posted on 05/12/2014 6:17:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Russians came in to move the weapons into Syria before the war.

MoJo knows this, as do most hard-core totalitarian American communists.


9 posted on 05/12/2014 6:17:51 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe because there were WMD’s in Iraq. Get over it lefties, you are retarded and liars.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 6:18:07 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WMDs Found in Iraq

Deadly chemicals are found dumped in river

Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Annonymous Freeper in Iraq

Cyanide Salt Block Found in Iraq

MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

NBC Forces Out Bob Arnot Who Delivered Upbeat Stories from Iraq(Arnot Charges Bias)

-PJ

11 posted on 05/12/2014 6:20:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course there were. What’d they gas the Kurds with? Nitrous oxide?


12 posted on 05/12/2014 6:20:17 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with her. I believe they were taken to Syria. I remember there being news or information of large convoys going out of Iraq in the middle of the night for quite some time prior to the war.


13 posted on 05/12/2014 6:23:52 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Mastador1
Of course they did. Just ignore all the plane flights and truck convoys moving from Iraq to Syria before the invasion.

That's what I have thought up to and including now. I don't know why Bush et al capitulated.

To a person out of (now) 72 comments, they were denigrating and snickering at her on the Quad City Times.

Ernst: I have reason to believe Iraq had WMD

14 posted on 05/12/2014 6:23:56 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: csmusaret

As did England, Germany, France, etc. They were there. We found stuff that W decided just not to inform the public of. Probabaly a smart move. Don’t let our enemies know what we know.

What did get in the press was uranium (enriched I don’t know), Sarin going to Syria and used in an failed attack in Lebanon, lots of mobile labs and processing centers, other places gutted. Basically the report that coward Colin Powell showed at the UN and now whines about.

But the reality and bottom line was Iraq had continued to violate the cease-fire agreement and after 9/11 it was time to quit being a pussy about it like Clinton.

I’m getting more than fed up with bystanders whining that some candidate shouldn’t have a logical and intelligent debate because the morons have bought the lies. Those folks carry white flags.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 6:24:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With leftists yesterday is what they say it is, and tomorrow will be wonderful.

But today they will do their damned best to make everybody suffer, equally of course, for the children of course, except the ones they demand Planned Parenthood slaughter.

Yes, the glorious left, where would we be without them.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 6:25:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jan/11/iraq

Things that make you say hmmmmmm


17 posted on 05/12/2014 6:28:19 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard it on the radio, Israeli forces said they detected weapons being moved out. They are no dummies, I believe they were right too!


18 posted on 05/12/2014 6:29:02 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mass destruction? Life yes, property no. Sooner it would be weapons of mass killing.

And there were lots of that stuff found there. They simply dumped it or took it out of country.

I asked my neighbor down the road, since he was one of those deniers, of how easy he thought it would be to hide one quart of liquid/something in a city.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 6:35:45 PM PDT by crz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yo, MoJo ho-writer, did you know Iraq used WMD repeatedly against Iran in their protracted war...
... and that Iraq used WMD repeatedly against the Kurds in Iraq...
... and that WMD were found in Iraq, but only those not trucked to Syria in the 18 months between the accusation that they still had WMD and the beginning of the actual inspections???

You might actually already know all that, but what's the use of being a liberal if you can't lie, cheat, and steal, eh?

20 posted on 05/12/2014 6:36:39 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Viennacon
Wasn’t there a well-evidenced theory about them being moved?

No theory. It was very briefly in the news and VERY QUICKLY shut down, scrubbed and deleted entirely. I heard it. The Israelis have said the same thing.
21 posted on 05/12/2014 6:41:50 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Of course, US troops never managed to find any such weapons after the invasion.”

Keep repeating a lie enough times and idiots will believe it. They did find some but it was dismissed ads “pre-gulf war WMD” or “not militarily ready WMD”

From liberal factcheck.org:

“and discovered only a few random chemical weapons.”

So which is it? “never found any” or “only found a few”?


22 posted on 05/12/2014 6:48:04 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Bidimus1

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/071912-618875-syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm


23 posted on 05/12/2014 6:48:33 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

David Corn’s rag ripping a woman who could whip every testosterone challenge dope smoking male on their staff....

That’s cool. Just get ready to pronounce it correctly, punks: “Senator Joni Ernst”.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 6:51:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Iraq War Resolution, which gave George Bush the authority for military force against Iraq had 23 paragraphs. Only 4 mentioned WMD, and that is all anyone talks about.

The other 19 were more than sufficient given that Iraq had signed and agreed to the terms of an armistice in 1991.

Another guy named Adolph Hitler was not held to the terms of an armistice (even when he was relatively weak when he violated those terms) signed by his nation and we can see where THAT got us.


25 posted on 05/12/2014 6:52:32 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

550 Metric Tons of yellowcake uranium removed from Iraq

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/#.U3F6nvldWfd


26 posted on 05/12/2014 6:53:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe that we're talking about the same Media that is relentlessly covering for Obama on Benghazi, to make him look good.

What are the chances that they'd refuse to investigate, and even outright lie to make George Bush look bad?

27 posted on 05/12/2014 6:53:44 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: chicagolady

Well, the leftists in the Democrat party won’t believe Israel...you remember how the loudly booed the Jews at their convention?

That FACT was omitted from most newscasts, as it casts a true and shining light on the Democrat party: anti-Semites and God haters.


28 posted on 05/12/2014 6:55:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: smoothsailing
Yes, the glorious left, where would we be without them.

Prosperous?

29 posted on 05/12/2014 6:56:07 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: SgtHooper

BTT


30 posted on 05/12/2014 7:02:39 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There WERE WMDs in Iraq!


31 posted on 05/12/2014 7:03:55 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Mastador1

Well leftists are good at ignoring the facts..they won’t say where Assad’s weapons came from because then they would have to admit that Saddam DID have weapons of mass destruction, would destroy their whole narrative


32 posted on 05/12/2014 7:05:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

33 posted on 05/12/2014 7:14:16 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

I worked with eapons and even the fact that they really didn’t find a massive cache of weapons there is a difference in comparing weapons. Chemical weapons are not built like regular bombs and such their size is not in giant dumb bombs and missles but just that a little chemicals can go a long way. Remeber when Chohen and the 5 lb. bag of sugar he used when he was Clinton’s Sec. of state.


34 posted on 05/12/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why were advanced Mig aircraft found buried in the sand in Iraq? What else might have been buried or secreted somewhere?


35 posted on 05/12/2014 8:26:56 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Syria was known to have it’s own chemical weapons program for decades before we invaded Iraq. I’m not saying they didn’t also get some from Saddam, just that they already had them.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 8:28:08 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Taxman
"There WERE WMDs in Iraq!"

I agree. And you know who ELSE agreed?

Bill Clinton

Hillary Clinton

John F. Kerry

And the multitudes of democrats who voted for the Iraq war.

You know, the ones who looked at the intelligence available to them.

"Saddam had WMDs on the day I left office."-Bill Clinton.

When the Left has to disparage the words of a leftist like Bill Clinton, you KNOW they are on thin ice.

37 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:13 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: boop

Not only that, it was Democrat Senator Jay Rockefeller who was the first to call Iraq “an imminent threat”.


38 posted on 05/12/2014 8:39:14 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: boop

It is a classic case of the LIEberals telling a lie over and over again until it become accepted “Truth”.

The Bush Administration had, but did not release, information proving that Saddam had WMDs. I have no idea why.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 8:41:00 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: SgtHooper
Of course there were. What’d they gas the Kurds with? Nitrous oxide?...absolutely right - not only that, but it's now established that some 500 tons of "yellowcake" (low grade enriched uranium - precursor to nukes) was removed undercover from Iraq to Canada in 2004 - Saddam may not have had big stockpiles, but he had the experience, knowhow, and the makins of some nasty weapons.......
40 posted on 05/12/2014 9:12:05 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they were shipped off to Syria, Libya and Russia while the U.N. and the U.S. Congress dickered over a resolutions supporting military action if Saddam did not officially account for them and turn them over

Saddam fully expected, with the help of the American Left, to make Iraq another “Vietnam”, return to power and get his WMD materials back from his friends.

I suspect some of what the U.S. got from Gaddafi began its WMD life in Iraq as is the case with Syria as well, and some I suspect Russia still has.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 9:17:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If President Bush KNEW there were no WMD’s in Iraq, we would have found them the first day of the War.

My standard line to a Liberal who blurts out the old Bush Lied, People Died meme.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 9:40:54 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"The left keeps on saying there were no WMD’s in Iraq..so I have a simple question for leftists..where did Assad get those same weapons that he has been using on his own people..did they come out of his butt?"

Why does it seem now like Iraq was the only middle east country that didn't have WMDs?
43 posted on 05/13/2014 12:29:36 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: icwhatudo
Then there are the hundreds of tons of yellow cake uranium they found.

Not to mention the military assets they had hidden like fighter jets.

Not to mention the munitions they used to make roadside bombs to kill Our people for years.

44 posted on 05/13/2014 12:50:27 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There were 30,000 Kurds who might have had an opinion supporting hers.


45 posted on 05/13/2014 3:04:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Mastador1

These no wmd folks are bat squeeze crazy.

Only a lemming would honestly believe Saddam either didn’t have wmds or was really trying to get everyone to believe he had them via violating all the UN resolutions against him.

What is to be gained by their continual denial that there was chemical and biological weapons in Iraq and they were trying to get nuclear weapons?

I guess they can neuter future attempts to control those weapons.


46 posted on 05/13/2014 6:16:43 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Hypocrisy by the left is the new normal for them.


47 posted on 05/13/2014 10:36:44 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper

At 76 years of age, I’ve been watching ‘rats for a long, long time - trust me, it’s their old normal.....


48 posted on 05/13/2014 8:49:03 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DAMN! When did FR Moderators start allowing Articles from that Liberal, Left-wing “MOTHER JONES” yellow journalism rag? Holy Shit Batman!!!

I watched the video. Joni handled it perfectly. Anyone who has half a brain knows that Saddam Hussein DID have weapons of mass destruction. Good thing nobody has a paid subscription to “MOTHER JONES” except fags, lesbians, child molesters and Registered Sex Offenders.


49 posted on 05/17/2014 8:20:40 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chemical Ali had already used chemical weapons for mass killings of opposing factions in Iraq.

So it is never a question of if, it is is only a question of what happened to them.


50 posted on 05/20/2014 2:02:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (Some thought Obama would be no worse than Romney. So we have less jobs and more food stamps people.)
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