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Is Karl Rove the next Dick Morris? (The knives come out due to Hillary "brain damage" remark)
The Politico ^ | May 13, 2014 | Dylan Byers

Posted on 05/13/2014 9:20:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In the wake of the 2012 presidential election, Fox News moved quickly to purge itself of its most troubled assets: Dick Morris, unquestionably the worst pundit of the cycle, was pushed out. Sarah Palin, a star fast fading, "parted ways" with the network. Karl Rove, who famously refused to concede Ohio to Obama even after Fox News called it for him, was temporarily sidelined.

Rove came back, of course. A top Republican strategist with major political influence, he was too valuable to give up. But now, as the next presidential election cycle gets under way, Rove has once again found himself at the center of controversy. At a conference in Los Angeles last week, he suggested that Hillary Clinton suffers from brain damage. The remarks were immediately criticized by fellow Republicans (Nicolle Wallace called them "off the wall"), Democrats (David Plouffe sarcastically commended the "high-brow, positive" criticism), and members of the media (CNN's John King said they were "reprehensible").

On Tuesday, Rove defended his remarks -- he said he never used the phrase "brain damage" -- but didn't apologize for raising concerns about Clinton's mental status: "I never used that phrase, I never used that phrase. But look, she had a serious health episode. And I don’t know about you, but if you go through a serious health episode, it causes you to look at life a little bit differently. This was a serious deal,” he said.

The damage is done, as they say, and that may very well have been intentional. Wallace, who worked with Rove in the Bush White House, called it "a deliberate strategy on his part to raise her health as an issue and, I think in his view, a legitimate line of questioning ahead of the next campaign."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016; braindamage; clinton; hillary; hillaryclinton; karlrove; nicolewallace; rove
The same GOP operative Nicole Wallace who claimed that the McCain campaign planned not to swear-in Gov. Sarah Palin should she be elected Vice President? Yeah, she's credible!

McCain vet Charlie Black: Nicolle Wallace's Palin claim 'bizarre'
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65257.html#ixzz31c4iOnvc

1 posted on 05/13/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d say with her, it’s more integrity damaged... character damaged... morality damaged... ethics damaged...

Feel feel to add what ya want...


2 posted on 05/13/2014 9:22:24 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Hillary camp announced that she had a concussion. A concussion is by definition brain damage.


3 posted on 05/13/2014 9:22:36 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know these are all different stories with different links, but 10-15 FR threads on Rove’s remarks so far is kinda over the top. Even for FR standards.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 9:24:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DManA

Democrats ran around for eight years saying Reagan was a kook, but no one can bring up a thing about their champions.


5 posted on 05/13/2014 9:24:23 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Responsibility2nd

How much did Jim charge you for the site?


6 posted on 05/13/2014 9:25:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Morris. Palin. Rove.

One of these things is not like the other.

Notice how they try to taint Palin with this false association.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 9:25:21 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Judging by the intensity of the reaction I would have to assume that Rove is on to something. We all have witnessed Clinton's emotional meltdown and it is clear that her judgment is suspect.
8 posted on 05/13/2014 9:25:50 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So he never used the words “brain damaged” yet they appear it quotes in all these articles??


9 posted on 05/13/2014 9:26:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh look. A squirrel.


10 posted on 05/13/2014 9:26:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DManA
The Hillary camp announced that she had a concussion. A concussion is by definition brain damage.

There you go, using actual Dictionary definations (i.e. facts) to make the case. The Left uses emotions, not facts.

11 posted on 05/13/2014 9:27:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if the question is “is he as blitheringly stupid, as wrong, and as good at making the rest of us look like fools” as Dick Morris then the answer is a resounding, “yes”.


12 posted on 05/13/2014 9:28:34 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Responsibility2nd

This article is about sidelining and maligning people for criticizing Hillary Clinton, in this case Karl Rove, but who’ll be next?, not about the issue of “brain damage” per se, so it is not one more story about Rove’s remarks, in that sense. See the difference?


13 posted on 05/13/2014 9:28:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 1Old Pro

Ask Dylan.


14 posted on 05/13/2014 9:29:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

lol I thought I was just seeing double, or triple, or ...


15 posted on 05/13/2014 9:29:20 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dunno, as much a Karl is a personanon grata around here, but what did he say that is not true.

The woman suffered a brain injury.
The woman was out of commission for a long time.
The woman behaved differently when she came back.
The woman retired shortly after.
The woman wore glassed used specifically to treat a brain injury.

Did the media question and request confirmation of Joe Biden after his brain surgery?

Perhaps “brain damaged” was not the “correct” term. But the questions are legit.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 9:30:03 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And there’s also the possibility there was no real concussion because the “accident” was staged to keep the news media away from Hillary after Benghazi debacle.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 9:31:12 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Vermont Lt
as much a Karl is a personanon grata around here, but what did he say that is not true.

Truth has nothing to do with the libs, it's whether or not you question one of their gods.

18 posted on 05/13/2014 9:33:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Regardless what you think of Hillary, that was a bloody stupid remark.

Will go doubly bad for Rove if she turns out to actually have a brain tumor.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 9:36:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, and FOX News brings in James Carville to make up for it. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!


20 posted on 05/13/2014 9:38:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Vermont Lt
Did the media question and request confirmation of Joe Biden after his brain surgery?

Change Biden for Obama, same result.


21 posted on 05/13/2014 9:39:04 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Hill had a concussion and apparently that concussion has/had caused double vision. This link is not from the RNC nor Rove. It is from Visionhelp.

http://visionhelp.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/hillary-clintons-double-vision/

It is a statement regarding awareness of one of the more common sequelae of Acquired Brain Injury: double vision. Here is a very famous individual, on a very public stage, thrust deeper into the public eye because of her binocular vision problems after closed head injury.

Please go to the link for the clinical diagnosis and pictures.

http://visionhelp.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/hillary-clintons-double-vision/


22 posted on 05/13/2014 9:41:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Carville adds nothing. Thankfully O’Reilly has stopped bringing Al Sharpton on his program and giving him credibility.


23 posted on 05/13/2014 9:42:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one asked me, but: TURN OFF YOUR BLOODY TVs - FOXCNNPBSMSNBCDISNEYESPNCABLEUPTHEYINYANG - ALL BRINGING US DOWN


24 posted on 05/13/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary can’t pass the physical. The Democrats can wish all they want, but she is physically incapable of holding the job. Ask anybody who has had blood clots if lots of travel and stress is what their Doctor recommends. Electing her to office is like giving her a death sentence. I would much rather see photos of Hillary spoiling her grandchild than photos of her coffin.


25 posted on 05/13/2014 9:45:04 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Regardless what you think of Hillary, that was a bloody stupid remark.

Will go doubly bad for Rove if she turns out to actually have a brain tumor.

both of them give me a headach.......


26 posted on 05/13/2014 9:45:08 AM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Judging by the intensity of the reaction I would have to assume that Rove is on to something.

I think you are on to something

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
William Shakespeare in "Hamlet"
27 posted on 05/13/2014 9:46:45 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove isn’t worth defending.


28 posted on 05/13/2014 9:50:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DManA

I thought Clinton’s office said that she had a blood clot. That’s pretty serious brain damage, or at least potentially.

I don’t see what the big deal is. Actually, they wanted to get Hillary off the stage because she was becoming an embarrassment and they were afraid she might spill the beans on Benghazi (inadvertently, because she always stands by her man, in this case, Obama). I do think she had what is medically described as an “incident,” so maybe just the stress of having to keep defending the indefensible was too much even for her.

I don’t think she has permanent brain damage - or at least, anything that will make her already warped brain worse - but certainly, if she’s thinking of running for president, this should be explained.


29 posted on 05/13/2014 9:50:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: All
http://visionhelp.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/hillary-clintons-double-vision/

For the scientific reality of her left lens go to the link and read.

The liberal media is agog about head injuries that athletes have, and yet, they have not really discussed how Hill injured her head and the severity of her injury.

30 posted on 05/13/2014 9:50:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dylan Byers is a media reporter at POLITICO and the author of the On Media blog. He was previously a media and tech reporter at Adweek, and has served as a research assistant to Philip Gourevitch, George Packer, and Jane Kramer. He graduated from Bard College in 2008.

Hillary Clinton released from hospital, leaves with former President Bill Clinton Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who has not been seen in public since Dec. 7, was spotted leaving New York-Presbyterian Columbia Hospital days after checking in for treatment for a blood clot near her brain.

The illness forced Clinton to cancel her scheduled appearance before Congress about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.

Clinton was treated in 1998 for a clot behind her right knee while her husband was still in the White House.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/clinton-leaving-hospital-concussion-treatment-article-1.1231669#ixzz31cD7nPk3

Press Here

31 posted on 05/13/2014 9:51:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: DManA

—The Hillary camp announced that she had a concussion.
—A concussion is by definition brain damage.

She had a cerebral sinus thrombosis
in the right transverse venous sinus

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-blood-clot-life-threatening-medical-experts/story?id=18101213

http://www.starkoncology.com/news/thrombosis/


32 posted on 05/13/2014 9:56:04 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Politico’s Byers Wants to Dictate Conditions For Criticizing Obama’s Foreign Policy

Tom Blumer | March 19, 2014 | 11:00

On Wednesday, the Politico’s Dylan Byers, imitating the president his web site so loves and adores, unilaterally decided (”new rule”) that those of us who are making the self-evident observation that President Barack Obama’s foreign policy performance has been weak can’t do so unless we articulate what he should be doing.

http://newsbusters.org/category/people/dylan-byers#ixzz31cEFFvD2

********

Media Protection Racket Alert: Politico’s Byers Defends Reid ‘Cancer’ Comment, Attacks Drudge

By Tom Blumer | October 2, 2013 | 23:58

Politico’s Dylan Byers is determined to tell us that we didn’t see and hear what we really saw and heard, and that Matt Drudge is a filthy liar (Update, 8:20 a.m., Oct. 3: as well as Real Clear Politics —”Reid To CNN’s Dana Bash: ‘Why Would We Want To’ Help One Kid With Cancer?”) for relaying what CNN’s Dana Bash saw and heard — and reported.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/category/people/dylan-byers#ixzz31cEcpd8v


33 posted on 05/13/2014 9:57:08 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL: Claim That Media Downplayed Benghazi Denounced as ‘Whopper of the Year’

By Randy Hall | August 6, 2013 | 23:59

In shining examples of the phrase “better late than never,” Conor Friedersdorf — a staff writer on politics and national affairs at The Atlantic — and Dylan Byers — a media critic for the Politico website — hammered conservatives on Monday for charging that the mainstream media had mostly ignored or minimized the attack on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012.

Friedersdorf called the charge the “Whopper of the Year,” while Byers accused conservatives of taking a “guilty-until-proven-innocent approach” regarding the reaction by President Barack Obama and his administration to the incident, which 11 months ago led to the deaths of four people, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

http://newsbusters.org/category/people/dylan-byers#ixzz31cFAGA3n


34 posted on 05/13/2014 9:58:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: HangnJudge

They want it both ways - so serious she was unavailable for three weeks but really it was nothing.


35 posted on 05/13/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder if the Dems will back Hillary 1000% as McGovern did Thomas Eagleton.


36 posted on 05/13/2014 10:03:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Vermont Lt
I dunno, as much a Karl is a persona non grata around here, but what did he say that is not true.

The woman suffered a brain injury.
The woman was out of commission for a long time.
The woman behaved differently when she came back.
The woman retired shortly after.
The woman wore glassed used specifically to treat a brain injury.

Did the media question and request confirmation of Joe Biden after his brain surgery?

Perhaps “brain damaged” was not the “correct” term. But the questions are legit.

These are very important facts that you mention. However, any mention of Rove and some just can't help themselves (literally).

37 posted on 05/13/2014 10:05:12 AM PDT by oldbrowser (This looks like a make it or break it point for America.)
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To: kcvl

It was just a case of 72 hour brain damage. Cleared right up, after the hearings ended.


38 posted on 05/13/2014 10:06:40 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: oldbrowser

“And there’s also the possibility there was no real concussion because the “accident” was staged to keep the news media away from Hillary after Benghazi debacle.”

I think it might be a ploy for Benghazi and not so much the election. Calling her out on the ‘brain injury’ — if they object too much, what does that mean about their excuse on why she couldn’t testify during that period.

You can’t have it both ways. She was either too ill to testify (which raises health questions) or she faked it and is fine (which raises question about her testimony).

I think it is a brilliant strategic play to call her out.


39 posted on 05/13/2014 10:11:04 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Rove wouldn’t be asking them if he didn’t know the inside scoop, IMO.


40 posted on 05/13/2014 10:14:34 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the Hildabeast has been drain bamaged for many years.


41 posted on 05/13/2014 10:18:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: DManA
They want it both ways - so serious she was unavailable for three weeks but really it was nothing.

So, her choices are:
1. She was lying about the injury in order to hide from the Benghazi investigators. Or
2. She suffered a serious head injury and her medical situation is a major campaign issue.

Either of which make her unsuitable for the presidency of the United States.

42 posted on 05/13/2014 10:24:49 AM PDT by oldbrowser (This looks like a make it or break it point for America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What happened to “don’t attack Hillary, it will backfire” ?


43 posted on 05/13/2014 10:35:19 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Attacking anybody if they turn out to have a life-threatening health condition WILL backfire.


44 posted on 05/13/2014 12:17:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

But, if FOX News gives Rove his walking papers, and he is no longer on the FOX Set, Sean Hannity will have to go to Rove’s house to kiss his a** and fawn all over “The Architect”.


45 posted on 05/17/2014 12:02:49 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Will go doubly bad for Rove if she turns out to actually have a brain tumor.
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I loathe Karl Rove, but I think that if that did happen, it would vindicate Karl Rove IMO.


46 posted on 05/17/2014 12:04:49 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: DManA

http://www.webmd.com/brain/tc/traumatic-brain-injury-concussion-overview


47 posted on 05/30/2014 5:38:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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