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Father Gets Probation For Making Son Walk Home From School
yahoo.com ^ | May 30, 2014

Posted on 05/30/2014 7:22:35 PM PDT by grundle

A Hawaii man has been sentenced to a year of probation after making his son walk a mile home from school.

Robert Demond was convicted of a misdemeanor charge of second-degree endangering the welfare of a minor.

Demond explained that his son had been involved in some sort of rule-breaking at school. When Demond picked him up, he asked about it, but his son refused to respond. Demond then stopped the car and told his son to walk to rest of the way home to think about what he had done, reports the Garden Island.

The judge, Kathleen Watanabe, ruled that the punishment was “old-fashioned” and inappropriate. She said that it is dangerous for children to walk alongside the road due to potential pedophiles. It was a form of punishment no longer supported by the community.

Demond was sentenced to a $200 fine and a year of probation. His son’s age was never revealed in court documents.

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1 posted on 05/30/2014 7:22:35 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Hawaii must be a really dangerous place.


2 posted on 05/30/2014 7:26:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: grundle

Are you effing kidding me?! WTH is wrong with everyone to let the school systems interfere in the disciplining of our own children?


3 posted on 05/30/2014 7:26:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: grundle

Well I am in it deep then.

I had someone call the cops on me because I was making a 10 year old do punishment exercises. The officer asked if I thought what I was doing was wrong. Of course I didn’t otherwise I wouldn’t do it. I pointed out that he had to do punishment exercises in the academy. My reasoning was it was highly unlikely that they would be engaging in illegal activity in the police academy.

I am alway entertained by people who think it is wrong to discipline a child through punishment or force and yet they call on someone to use force and punishment. Ironic.


4 posted on 05/30/2014 7:27:40 PM PDT by rey
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To: grundle

I would assume the child was well under 14.


5 posted on 05/30/2014 7:29:06 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: grundle

He had to walk a whole mile?

The other day I walked from our Boardwalk, over to Natural Bridges and then to Capitola Village.

Total distance? 18 miles

Views and quality of enjoyment - priceless

One mile. Pfffft! !!


6 posted on 05/30/2014 7:29:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: grundle

Totally insane ruling by an obviously out-to-lunch judge.


7 posted on 05/30/2014 7:30:50 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: jsanders2001

Contact the court system here:

Contact Information:
Commission on Judicial Conduct
Kapuaiwa Bldg., 426 Queen Street, Room 118
Honolulu, Hawai`i 96813-2914
Telephone: (808) 539-4790
Fax: (808) 539-4756
E-mail: judconduct.c.comm@courts.hawaii.gov


8 posted on 05/30/2014 7:31:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: grundle
How old is the son? They left that out.

9 posted on 05/30/2014 7:31:21 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: grundle

There are judges in this country that think they are our lords and masters. They need to be persuaded otherwise.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 7:32:19 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hawaii is so full of leftist nuts and criminals that you could start your own country with just them as citizens.

Read the Hawai’i Free Press if you want to find out what is really going on there.

The Democrats in Hawaii are just as corrupt as those in Chicago, New York, Detroit, LA and Cleveland.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 7:32:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: grundle

I bet she sentences parents whose children are obese for not making sure they get enough exercise.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 7:32:39 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: grundle
This moron of a judge is a travesty. The guy should get a lawyer and fight this nonsense. It is over. We are doomed as a nation if this is the norm.
13 posted on 05/30/2014 7:36:13 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: grundle

Stupid idiotic judge. Should be retired. ASAP.


14 posted on 05/30/2014 7:36:32 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: grundle
I see a lot of fat kids who could use some long marches. Usually, they have parents who should also be marched long and hard.

But we must tolerate those who have become fat and lazy.

15 posted on 05/30/2014 7:40:41 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Fungi
It's Hawaii, not America.

/johnny

16 posted on 05/30/2014 7:41:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: grundle

A kid walking is a crime because there are so many pedophiles? Shouldn’t pedophilia be the crime that is punished? Reminds me of the law that used to be on the books in Chicago making it illegal to be a midget or dwarf alone on the street. The reasoning was you might get kidnapped by a circus.


17 posted on 05/30/2014 7:44:24 PM PDT by rey
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To: grundle

Liberalism IS a mental disease.

The guys life is messed up for more than a year, and possibly his lifetime depending on where he wants to go with it. He has a record of child abuse now. His credibility with his kid is in ruin, and possibly with his family due unforeseen consequences of this judge’s edict.

This liberal judge has imposed her own unsupported perspectives onto this family that will never be undone.

The result of elevating bat dung crazy Leftists to leadership positions in our judicial, or governing entities.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 7:47:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: grundle
ruled that the punishment was “old-fashioned

yes...the new ways are much more effective (sarcasm)

19 posted on 05/30/2014 7:48:14 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: A CA Guy

My first day of Kindergarten, I insisted that I would walk home, and I did, it was well farther than a mile.


20 posted on 05/30/2014 7:52:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: BitWielder1

Mark Steyn on RUSH today said that Richard Branson’s parents cut him loose 200 miles from home when he was 5 years old.


21 posted on 05/30/2014 7:52:39 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: grundle

My mother let me walk nearly 20 miles once in the middle of the night when I was about 14.

I earned it.


22 posted on 05/30/2014 7:53:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: jsanders2001

Wussification trumps Parenting, every time.


23 posted on 05/30/2014 7:54:08 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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24 posted on 05/30/2014 7:54:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: grundle

Son of a ****... we, used to walk a mile and a half or thereabouts to school and the same distance back every single day of the school year and the only “punishment” anybody ever spoke of relevant to that was the punishment God was likely to inflict on any kid too candy-assed to do that for whatever reason.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 7:58:02 PM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: grundle

We had to walk 2 miles to catch the school bus each day for weeks one year when the bus drivers went on strike. I think I was in 4th grade.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 7:59:07 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: grundle
Oh no! I'm in crazy NY and made my 16 year old daughter walk to school today! We are not even a mile away from the school but they do provide a bus. I told her several times in the last few weeks (when she refused to get up and get ready on time and missed the bus) she'd be walking because I have a schedule to keep too, and walked farther then she does to school. It's a tight nit village community and there are a lot of kids walking at the same time. You would have thought when she got home today I had sentenced her to cruel and unusual punishment! Now you have to worry about the state coming after you?!?! (And this is the same girl that plays sports and got a gym membership for her birthday because she wants to stay in shape!)
27 posted on 05/30/2014 8:12:08 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: grundle
It's almost unbelievable that Freepers on this thread are still actually shocked at this kind of thing.

Don't you people realize that liberals dominate the entire justice system?

28 posted on 05/30/2014 8:19:09 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Rembrandt

Kauai is Hippie Heaven. Far left even by Hawaii standards.


29 posted on 05/30/2014 8:20:15 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: A CA Guy

I walked over a mile each way to school on city streets when I was well under 14.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 8:21:11 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: grundle

Oh, and I found out daughter doesn’t like to walk to school not because of a perceived “danger” but because it leaves less time to do her hair!


31 posted on 05/30/2014 8:21:35 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: achilles2000
I walked over a mile each way to school on city streets when I was well under 14.

The universe is constantly expanding; a mile is longer now than back in our day.

32 posted on 05/30/2014 8:24:10 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: grundle
It was a form of punishment no longer supported by the community.

THAT is a very scary sentence. The judge rules against the dad not because he broke the law, but because he did something "no longer supported by the community"? What happened to law?

33 posted on 05/30/2014 8:25:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: jsanders2001

I don’t think this had anything to do with the school.


34 posted on 05/30/2014 8:31:18 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: achilles2000
I walked over a mile each way to school on city streets when I was well under 14.

Exactly! For me, it wasn't city streets, but rather frozen-over Michigan dirt roads. We lived at the end of a private street (no bus service) that was at the end of a dirt road. When the dirt roads became the cause of a lot of service problems to the bus, they changed the route to only stop at the intersection of the paved roads and dirt roads.

Through rainstorms - walk. Through snow-storms - walk. Through ice storms, and ice-skating conditions on the roads - walk. A mile, in each direction.

Our country is going nuts. Absolutely nuts.

35 posted on 05/30/2014 8:37:15 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: grundle
Despite saying he didn't think the punishment was morally wrong or criminal, he pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of second-degree endangering the welfare of a minor.

I guess you can't blame the judge for the father's stupidity. No jury of adults with children would have convicted him of anything. That was probably the lightest sentence she could have given him for the crime he basically pled guilty to.

If he had a lawyer, the lawyer should be disbarred.

36 posted on 05/30/2014 8:38:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: grundle

We (Security) used to get University students complaining that they could not get a car park - the northern end of the campus had a massive car park that was never full (less than a mile walk) - I had several young fit looking males and females whine at me “But that is so far” - My retort was “Just think of all the money you will save not having to pay for a gym membership”. I also told them I was more than twice their age and would have to walk that distance 10 -20 times a day. Look on their face was always precious like they had finally realized they were a spoilt whimp!


37 posted on 05/30/2014 8:43:28 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: kevao
The universe is constantly expanding; a mile is longer now than back in our day.

We are getting larger too, and our steps are longer. The same mile takes the same number of steps, regardless of the expansion factor.

This is easy to prove if you simply think that the space remains the same, but the ruler gets shorter.

38 posted on 05/30/2014 8:48:07 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: the OlLine Rebel

> I don’t think this had anything to do with the school.

Maybe not but thats usually par for course on these types of situations.


39 posted on 05/30/2014 8:50:04 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: grundle
screw that, put me in jail... it'll cost more than $200 and no probation to deal with
40 posted on 05/30/2014 9:00:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: grundle

What BS.


41 posted on 05/30/2014 9:04:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: grundle

Walked to school 1.3 miles at 7-8 years of age. Didn’t use a school bus.

Walked 4 miles per day and seven days a week after school and on weekends delivering newspapers at 10 to 13 years of age.

Frequently rode a bicycle distances of 10 to 20 miles at 8 to 15 years of age.

Rode my horse on saddle and bareback along roads and cross country distances of 10 to 20 miles starting at 11 years of age. Carried a rifle in the scabbard and a pistol on some occasions while riding. Drove horsedrawn racing sulky and wagons a number of miles too.

This judge needs to be immediately impeached before any further harm can be caused.


42 posted on 05/30/2014 9:13:13 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: kevao

Thank you for that thought. The next time someone comments on my somewhat increased girth, I’ll have to claim that the universe is constantly expanding, hence their observation of me. That’s the ticket!


43 posted on 05/30/2014 9:14:37 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: BitWielder1

I just want to know specifically what law and penal code section he violated.
Old fashioned, inappropriate and no longer supported by the community aren’t any penal codes I have ever heard of.


44 posted on 05/30/2014 9:15:42 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: A CA Guy

Anyone remember the Emergency Drills in the 60’s?

Students in Grades 1 through 6, who lived within 2 miles of school, were told to walk home and not dawdle, and take note of the time.

Of course parents were informed and most had mother’s waiting at home for them.

And then there’s my Grandpa...nicknamed “12 mile Johnny”....horse and cart, as I recall the telling.


45 posted on 05/30/2014 9:21:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Vendome

Ummm...I had to walk a mile from grade school. This was because I had walked TO grade school a mile that morning. IN ADDITION, we walked home to go to lunch AND...walked back to school (no school lunch program back then. Heck, no school lunchroom, period). When I was a kid, very few people had two cars and probably only 50% of the moms could actually even drive a car. I will admit, this was done on sidewalks in a safe suburban neighborhood in flat-as-a-board Chicago. The snow might not have been three feet deep (and then came the winter), and the walks might not have been uphill both ways, but it was darned cold a few months every year...you couldn’t ride a bike to school until sixth grade, as I recall.

I noted at my grade school’s 40-year (no, really, 40-year) reunion that not a single classmate had experienced a heart attack, and with only a few unrelated and explainable exceptions (drug overdose, type I congenital diabetes), no one died. I believe that exercise and activity, especially when you are young, was probably a factor.

Young people today aren’t going to be getting much of THAT that behind an Xbox and being chauffeured around.


46 posted on 05/30/2014 9:23:25 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 5th MEB

“I just want to know specifically what law and penal code section he violated.”

Whatever one sticks.


47 posted on 05/30/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: grundle

I just checked the mileage on Google Maps between the house I grew up in and my elementary school. One mile exactly. I would routinely walk home from school beginning in the 3rd grade for sure, maybe the 2nd.


48 posted on 05/30/2014 9:29:10 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“It was a form of punishment no longer supported by the community.”

Yeah, a chill went down my spine when I read that.

Being Jewish was no longer supported by the German community in the 1930’s, as I have read.


49 posted on 05/30/2014 9:29:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: grundle

I would do the same thing. I would also follow along behind. One mile isn’t even 30 minutes of excercise. He should have told the judge that he was taking Michelle Obama’s concern for obestiy seriously and trying to kill two birds with one stone.

IE: Excercise and Mental Meditation regarding actions and consequences. Studies have shown that walking outdoors works as well as or better than anti-depressants.

He must have had a lousy lawyer.


50 posted on 05/30/2014 9:32:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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