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Conservative Senator Slams Tea Party Groups For Hurting GOP Establishment
Talking Points Memo ^ | June 1, 2014 | Caitlin MacNeal

Posted on 06/01/2014 9:53:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) on Saturday railed against Tea Party groups for hurting establishment candidates and incumbents just to fundraise.

“That is a fact. It is not a conjecture, and so many of these groups it is basically donor capture. They are there to perpetuate themselves," he said at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans, La., as recorded by The Daily Beast.

Johnson explained that he feels that some Tea Party groups don't actually represent the grassroots Tea Party movement, with which he identifies.

“I value the membership of the Tea Party movement. I am right there with them ideologically, I mean, ‘Taxed Enough Already.’ But the groups don’t necessarily represent all of the individuals in the movement. I think the individuals are now realizing they may have been led astray by an individual group or two and they really do understand that they have to win elections,” he said. “My guess is the Tea Party grassroots are maybe a little more flexible.”

The senator stressed that the party needs to be more reasonable in order to win general elections.

“I think the conservative movement may just be maturing a little bit. You can be very doctrinaire, you can demand purity, but in the end if you want to advance policy that you want enacted you have to win elections," Johnson said. "If you start out bombastic, if you start out with conspiracies, they aren’t going to listen to you."


TOPICS: Wisconsin; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: gop; ronjohnson; teaparty; wisconsin

1 posted on 06/01/2014 9:53:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The sooner the GOP establishment goes away the better.


2 posted on 06/01/2014 9:54:56 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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3 posted on 06/01/2014 9:55:13 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did Mitch McConnell haul him into the middle of the Potomac and baptize him into the GOPe?
4 posted on 06/01/2014 9:57:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is part of the problem. The Tea Party is the solution. The RINO’s see this as their extinction event and they’re fighting it tooth and nail.

Too bad for them, they lost a long time ago.


5 posted on 06/01/2014 10:03:50 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is the GOPe that demands their own brand of purity, the last thing they want is for us to elect conservatives that actually mean it.


6 posted on 06/01/2014 10:13:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We've been discussing this exact story here:

Conservative Senator Kicks Tea Party to the Curb

7 posted on 06/01/2014 10:14:53 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP establishment is what has hurt the Republican Party.


8 posted on 06/01/2014 10:15:28 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some time ago on these threads an article appeared from a left-wing source the name of which presently escapes me to the effect that The Tea Party groups had been raking off a scandalously high percentage of their donations for management and a pitifully small percentage was going to elect conservatives. I recall noting that the source was left-wing but commenting that these charges should be promptly rebutted or confidence in the tea party movement would be compromised along with future donations.

To my knowledge no rebuttal has appeared on these threads and the charges remain in the air.

Senator Johnson's criticism to the degree that it extends to finances might therefore be well taken. That, however, would have nothing to do with his betrayal of conservative principles since taking office due to the support of The Tea Party.


9 posted on 06/01/2014 10:22:19 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: AlaskaErik

I seem to remember this guy was backed by the Tea movement, and now like Rand Paul he has moved like Paul did when he backed Mitch McConnell over Matt Bevin against the conservative base.

This is a party the GOP that has only 35% GOPe country club Republicans who are Rockerfeller/Bush republicans not Reagan republicans. The GOPe forgot how Reagan ran and won big on conservative issues. Since these weasels have run things we have had a string of losses. Dole,Bush SR., McCain, Romney.

I hope this guy reforms himself or losses. I would not go vote for someone who doesn’t go home with the person who was responsible for him being at the party


10 posted on 06/01/2014 10:25:47 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frankly, this whole change it from within nonsense is, well nonsense. It’s fun to watch if only because it is so predictable.

Change is rarely voluntary.


11 posted on 06/01/2014 10:45:41 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Zenjitsuman

The GOPe country club Republicans fought Reagan all the way. I believe they think the Reagan wins were flukes.


12 posted on 06/01/2014 10:52:20 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Businesses that don’t cull incompetent executives don’t survive long.


13 posted on 06/01/2014 11:39:51 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are there to perpetuate themselves,"

Is he sure he isn't mixing up the TEA Party candidates with the GOPe 10-15 termers seeking reelection?

14 posted on 06/02/2014 12:09:52 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“My guess is the Tea Party grassroots are maybe a little more flexible.”

My guess is that is a very poor guess. I also think that guessing is not a good way to run a political party. I also guess that he knows his guess is wrong and that he is trying to play the “Hey don’t we want to win an election” card - trying to pull people back to the center left.


15 posted on 06/02/2014 12:11:40 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Johnson is a pro-amnesty sellout:

http://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=eec2d44c-680a-410d-b896-f2945193814b

Just like all the other GOP sellouts from WI.


16 posted on 06/02/2014 12:22:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I respond to the daily GOP begging for money (email phone and paper) with “No money for RINOs.”


17 posted on 06/02/2014 12:45:15 AM PDT by anton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Conservative Senator Slams Tea Party Groups For Hurting GOP Establishment

A pity he feels the need to verbally assault free and thinking people.

18 posted on 06/02/2014 4:14:24 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nathanbedford

I also remember the article and thread, and I was amazed at the very high rake offs some of these so-called financial responsibility groups were taking. If I recall correctly in looking at the list of Tea Party related groups, only one, the Club for Growth had a reasonable admin fee (something like 5 or 6%). The rest of the Tea Party affiliated groups were HORRIBLE! One or more even approaching what I’d call a scam operation.

Likewise, I have seen no rebuttals to this whatsoever, which resolves me to check very carefully into the mission, organization and financial disclosure statements of any of these groups before I give them money.

As for Senator Johnson, I could give a rat’s patooty if his establishment GOP is losing donors because of Tea Party sentiment.


19 posted on 06/02/2014 4:26:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

,,,,, sounds to me like the rino estabs are beginning to get the message and they feel threatened .

Generally the dems will not attack one another in the primary election stage like the rinos are willing to do even if it cost us the election ,,, I have to say this really pisses me off to the “T” !!!!!


20 posted on 06/02/2014 4:51:57 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

As a conservative, I actually think he has a point - in that national ‘Tea Party’ groups fundraise endlessly, and are not contributing much of anything to the cause. For example, what is the difference on the Tea Party Express and the Tea Party Patriots? It seems to me that what is happening is that this employs some activist conservatives, and fundraising maintains their jobs. Perhaps someone here can explain this to me.

OTOH, I do endorse the local Tea Party movement. This is where the grassroots of the conservative movement, is and that is where the tea Party does the most good. Informing the local citizens of what is going on in the government.


21 posted on 06/02/2014 7:39:50 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

a Republican Leadership Conference?

That must have been exciting to attend

anyone see any leaders?


22 posted on 06/02/2014 8:38:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Gumdrop

I worked for the GOP for years volunteering. Many of us felt it always seemed to be campaigning against us. I am no longer a member of the GOP or help them.

Others can continue to run up against the GOP wall if they choose. I won’t any longer.


23 posted on 06/02/2014 10:08:40 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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