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Ted Cruz must change if he wants to be president
all voices ^ | May 31, 2014 | "Punditty"

Posted on 06/02/2014 12:34:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Analysis

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, hero to the tea party and villain to liberals, predicted Saturday that Republicans will win control of the Senate in November, then went on to edge out Dr. Ben Carson in a straw poll taken on the last day of the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans.

Cruz had uplifting words for the party faithful in attendance. “I am convinced we are going to retake the United States Senate in 2014,” the junior senator from Texas said, no equivocation whatsoever in his distinct voice.

Cruz is the latest in a long line of polarizing Republican politicians who are skilled at speaking to people who share their political and cultural views but who come across as nothing more than provocateurs to Democrats and many independents who find their positions on a wide variety of social issues only slightly to the left of Genghis Khan.

The 2014 RLC featured the usual cast of characters, including Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, soon-to-be former Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul was not in attendance, which may explain why Cruz won the straw poll. Paul finished third, behind Cruz and Carson but ahead of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who did not attend the event, and Perry. The conservative website therightscoop.com posted the full results.

Should Cruz and Paul both run for president in 2016, they will be battling for the same voters – conservative Republicans disenchanted with the presidential nominating process. The last two election cycles saw relatively moderate candidates Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney take the GOP nominations, and both years, hard-right Republicans weren’t exactly brimming with enthusiasm for their party’s nominees.

Many of the politicians attending the RLC have either failed in past presidential bids or are gearing up for a go at it next time around. Santorum and Perry, who came up short in 2012, are likely to give it another try; Jindal and Cruz are giving every indication that they will seek the nation’s top office in 2016.

But how can Cruz, with a 23 percent favorability rating nationally, hope to compete with likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who enjoys a 50 percent favorability rating?

Unless Cruz undergoes some sort of a dramatic transformation, he can’t. Without growing up at least a little bit, he will be just another Republican sacrificial lamb if he somehow emerges as the nominee out of a very crowded GOP field.

This leaves the Republican Party between the proverbial rock and hard place. The more conservative Republicans most certainly don’t want repeats of 2008 and 2012, when the eventual GOP nominee was at least somewhat moderate when compared to other presidential hopefuls in the field. But if Cruz emerges as the Republican nominee in 2016, any winning strategy will have to rely on converting swing voters to see things his way, and his way is not the way of most Americans.

Consider one of his biggest applause lines at the RLC speech:

“[In] Texas, like Louisiana, we define gun control real simple,” Cruz said. “That’s hittin’ what you aim at. And so three of us, Rand Paul, [Utah Sen.] Mike Lee and myself sent a very short and sweet note to Harry Reid … we said we will filibuster any legislation that undermines the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.”

While such rhetoric may go over well with RLC attendees, the fact is that a December 2013 CBS News poll found that 85 percent of all Americans and 84 percent of gun owners supported federal background checks on firearms purchases.

Cruz talks a good game when he’s preaching to the choir, but his positions on a wide variety of hot-button issues do not jibe with those of American voters. He is opposed to same-sex marriage, for example, and ontheissues.org even says he opposes gay pride parades. A May 21 Gallup poll found support for same-sex marriage at 55 percent nationally, with 8 in 10 voters under 30 supporting marriages between people of the same sex.

In January, Cruz criticized Obama for not enforcing federal marijuana laws in Colorado, where voters legalized use of the drug in 2012. Nationally, 55 percent of respondents in a January CNN/ORC poll said recreational use of marijuana should be legal. Cruz may think that he can persuade voters to come around to seeing things his way on these kinds of issues, and there’s always an outside chance that he can. But a better approach for Cruz to take if he wants to win the presidency is to try and understand why most Americans feel the way they do on social issues as he opens his mind to the possibility of seeing things differently.

If Cruz could begin seeing social issues in a less reactionary, judgmental way, he might have a chance at persuading voters to at least give serious consideration to his economic policies, which in turn might increase his chances of winning the White House. But if he stays mired in rigid thinking about guns and retains discriminatory attitudes toward gays, lesbians and marijuana users, he’ll never be more than just a conservative darling who gives a good pep talk but does little more than stand in the way of progress when it comes to doing the right thing for the American people.

Additional sources and resources:

“The GOP’s grifter problem,” Slate, May 31, 2014

“Ted Cruz mocks gun control advocates,” The Daily Beast, May 31, 2014

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Punditty is based in Santa Cruz, California, United States of America, and is an Anchor for Allvoices.


TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; cruz2016; guncontrol; guns; homosexualagenda; marijuana; polls; pot; potheads; randpaul; rupaul; secondamendment; tedcruz
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To: sten

I thought that was a good rebuttal to the four cases you cited. Instead of rising to the challenge and making your case, you decide to insult people? Show us what you’re got. If you really believe the supreme court rulings support your convention, then pull out the the passage that proves it limits it to just your perspective.


41 posted on 06/03/2014 3:33:14 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: sten
just stop claiming to be conservative or patriotic as neither would ever trash our country’s founding document for political expediency

Disgusting comment. These are good highly conservative Freepers. Too bad we don't have an ignore button dipshit.

42 posted on 06/03/2014 3:35:03 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: mongrel

Are you kidding? sten is better constitutional expert against one of the best in the entire country. /s (Cruz)


43 posted on 06/03/2014 3:36:22 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: sten
no amount of insistence will change the facts

FACT: He was born to American Citizen parents.

FACT: This makes him a natural-born citizen whether he was Chicago, Calgary, or Clavius Dome on the Moon.

44 posted on 06/03/2014 11:04:59 AM PDT by Iced Tea Party
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To: Iced Tea Party

if two Canadians gave birth to a child in NYC, the child would be an American citizen as well as a Canadian citizen... but not a natural born citizen of either, as a choice is available

if this were allowed, then Kate and prince William could have flown to NYC, had their kid, and flown home with the distinct possibility of the future king of England also being eligible to be president of the US.

this is precisely the situation the founders wanted to avoid by using that exact term for that exact requirement

there is no two ways around it


45 posted on 06/03/2014 5:57:51 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: mongrel

I’ve been over this with the 0bama bots and GOPe types here in 2008 and 2012.

there is not point going over it again, this time for a canadian citizen, as ignorance rules the day.


46 posted on 06/03/2014 6:01:15 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: catfish1957

you’re sounding a bit defensive... you must realize I’m right

stop calling yourself a conservative or a patriot if you won’t stand up for the founding document in the most basic situation. only libs believe it’s a ‘living document’


47 posted on 06/03/2014 6:05:02 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

You only hurt your cause when you call those who disagree with you Obama bots and GOPe. I doubt they have interest in making Cruz eligible. I have not studied this in depth, but on the surface it seems the ineligible side has flooded links with little in-depth analysis.


48 posted on 06/03/2014 6:10:07 PM PDT by mongrel
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To: mongrel

in-depth analysis for a commonly defined word??

look to the Constitution and find me an exact definition of the terms ‘life’, ‘liberty’, or ‘pursuit of happiness’ ... you won’t find it.

yet, in this thread alone, 4 supreme court opinions have been shown describing/discussing the qualifications to be a NBC. additionally, i’ve pointed out the opposite case of foreign citizens having a kid here and potentially being a king of another country while also the POTUS... the main reason the founders chose the term NBC.

the information is plain as day. it’s up to you to do the homework.


49 posted on 06/03/2014 7:33:07 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
you’re sounding a bit defensive... you must realize I’m right

stop calling yourself a conservative or a patriot if you won’t stand up for the founding document in the most basic situation. only libs believe it’s a ‘living document’

What I stated pretty much is consistent with what the founder of this site has also stated. Would you like to make the same comment to him?

Didn't think so. You are anything but a conservative. You are nothing but a GOP(e) statist.

50 posted on 06/04/2014 4:01:00 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: sten
...Oh and congratulations on being a better expert on constitutional law than Ted Cruz. /s

You are only embarrassing yourself here.

51 posted on 06/04/2014 4:02:57 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957

what I’ve stated i would state to anyone. that’s the benefit of working with logic and not emotion

once again, a natural born citizen is someone that is a citizen naturally... as there are no alternatives.

period.

doesn’t matter how great a speaker he is, how many people support him, or how cute he looks in a suit. facts are facts.

trying to work around it to get your guy elected just shows you’re not interested in the Constitution but whatever it takes to get your guy in. again, that’s not what a conservative or patriot would do... as neither would dispense with the founding document when it became inconvenient

the reason we’re in this mess today is because people wouldn’t adhere to the law... something as simple as requiring proof of NBC status. then they get outraged when 0bama and crew break the law daily. hilarious


52 posted on 06/04/2014 5:27:37 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
"Natural Born Citizen" means citizen by right of birth (as opposed to "naturalized" later). The claims that Ted Cruz somehow fails to qualify despite the fact that he was clearly a citizen at birth are just plain bogus.

Sure, if you prefer some other candidate, go for it -- but use valid arguments for why your guy is better.

53 posted on 06/04/2014 8:28:19 AM PDT by Iced Tea Party
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To: Iced Tea Party

amazing. you can explain it to people 100 times, and they’re just committed to get ‘their guy’ in, no matter what.

the logic is simple.

the founders deliberately used the term ‘natural born citizen’ as requirement for the office of the president. the reason was to insure that, at least by birth, the office would only be held by an American. also, they wanted to insure that it would impossible for someone to be POTUS as well as some foreign king.

therefore, once again, it would not be possible for someone with multiple citizenship possibilities, at birth, to assume the office of the president. hence the term ‘natural born citizen’... as you have no alternative.

TCruz, MRubio, and BH0bama all had multiple citizenship possibilities at birth. they may be citizens of various countries, but they are natural born citizens of none.

people born in America to American parents don’t understand this, as they’ve never had the options.

as the son of a Scottish mother, on the day i was born in the US, i was an American citizen as well as British by decent... a term that allows me to hold dual citizenship... and 2 passports.

I, like TCruz, am not eligible under Article 2 Section 1.

just the facts


54 posted on 06/04/2014 9:11:33 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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