Skip to comments.“Several” Republican senators reportedly uneasy with GOP’s tactics in Mississippi runoff
Posted on 06/27/2014 5:11:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Im going to go out on a limb and guess that its not the tactics themselves that bother them as much as the attention those tactics are receiving from conservative voters.
Says Red States Leon Wolf, If any of these bastards want to avoid the fallout they should go on the record.
According to these conversations [with two Republican Senate staffers], some $800,000 was raised for Cochran by his Senate colleagues after the McDaniel victory in the primarys first round, largely under the rubric of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. This wasnt seen as a particularly controversial matter at the time; the NRSC is an organization by and for the Republican members of the Senate and Cochran had raised money for his colleagues in the past, so there would have been no reason to deny him help. Its just what you do, said one of the staffers. Its generally accepted that we probably cant win the Senate if we lose our own people, so when Cochrans people ask for help raising money, the answer is yes.
Though there were published reports to the effectand Barbour was open about itthat Cochrans runoff strategy was to expand the electorate by seeking Democratic votes in a Republican primary, there wasnt a lot of attention paid to where the funds being raised would go. And moreover, when Cochran lost a close race to McDaniel in the first round, there was a general assumption that his goose was cooked. Nobody thought hed win regardless of what he did, said the staffer. If youre an incumbent and youre behind a challenger that close to avoiding a runoff, youre usually behind the eight-ball.
As such, the staffers say, it wasnt until Wednesday, when the fallout began to descend, that Cochrans tactics became an issue. And now, several senators are more than a little uneasy with those tactics, which they feel responsible for since they raised money for Cochran.
AmSpec offers no names but says theres soul-searching going on among the Senates more outspoken conservatives for not doing more to help McDaniel when they had the chance. *cough* (Rand Paul, of course, seems to think it was just awesome that Cochran won his partys nomination with votes from the other party.) Was this, though, as Mollie Hemingway thinks, ultimately a pyrrhic victory for the GOP establishment? Before you say yes, tell me what youre willing to do to punish the party for kitchen-sinking a guy who not only received the most votes in the first round of the primary but who, by wide consensus, won more Republican votes in the runoff too? Withholding donations is fine, but dont kid yourselves: Moneys the one thing that GOP incumbents and the NRSC dont want for. If they lose $10 million from the base in boycotted contributions, Sheldon Adelson can make it up for them in one check to the right Super PAC.
Are you willing to go this far?
Should the Republican establishment in Washington get away with tarring its own voters as racists? Should the Republican establishment in Washington get away with comparing its own base to Klansmen?
If there is no penalty for doing so, they will keep doing it. If there is no consequence, they will attack their own base to preserve their power. They will learn no lesson. In fact, some of you may want to donate to Travis Childers, Thad Cochrans Democrat opponent. I cannot say that I blame you.
Cochran will now put the highest bidders first. The GOP will carry out this tactic of calling you racist klansmen Nazis everywhere it works. I would like to see the GOP get the majority and oust Harry Reid as leader. But I understand if you think Mississippi can still be sacrificed.
All true. If Cochran trounces Childers in the general election, the lesson learned by Republican incumbents will be that theres no cost to beating conservative challengers by any means necessary. You guys will always turn out for them in November on the theory that the Democrat is worse, no matter how nasty to you they are in the primary, so they might as well be as nasty as they like. The question is, is the Democrat worse this time? He may be worse than Cochran on policy, but is he worse than the filthy patronage system that supports Cochran and which he supports in turn? Thats what youre voting for, whether you like it or not, if you vote for Thad.
There are risks here. Electing Childers could give the Democrats the 50th Senate seat they need in the fall to preserve their majority. (Biden would cast the deciding vote in case of 50/50 ties, of course.) Thats not a big risk on legislation given that Republicans will control the House but its a huge risk on Supreme Court nominations, if/when Harry Reid ends up nuking the filibuster and allowing confirmation by simple majority vote. If O knows he can get a nominee through with just 51 votes, hell feel safer nominating someone whos further left. Also, the more seats you hand to Democrats now, the better position theyll be in come 2016, when theyre expected to clean up in battleground states. Sean Trende thinks theres even a (small) chance that Democrats will win a filibuster-proof majority. If you sacrifice Mississippi now, youre making that marginally more likely.
The counterargument is simple, though: If not now, when? The GOP might do well enough in the fall to retake the Senate even if they lose Mississippi. If they dont retake it, thats not a disaster this is, by Nate Silvers estimate, the least important election in years because control of the upper chamber matters so little. The GOP will have more leverage over Court confirmations if they have a majority, but who knows if therell even be a vacancy on the Court? And gridlock on legislation is a fait accompli given Obamas standoff with the Republican House regardless of what the Senate does. If youre unwilling to risk a protest vote for a Democrat after the grotesque spectacle of a group of GOP cronies using liberal votes to prop up an elderly man whose heart isnt in it anymore, youll never be willing. And if youre unwilling, maybe its time to stop complaining about Cochran and cronyism and the rest of it and accept that this is who we are and who were going to be.
Mark Levin EXPOSING this right now.
It appears the ads saying McDaniel was a member of the KKK may land Barbour in hot legal water, since it used a shell activist group not registered in the state
Too late, suckers. No do over.
Now is the time for all Republicans to take sides.
The runoff showed just as I had feared how uninformed are conservative voters in MS.
Is there a third candidate on the general election ballot?
The GOP’s Mississippi Mud antics pissed me off. That’s why I just laugh each time caller I.D. tells me the GOP is on the phone wanting to mooch some money. Adios Pubbies! Call Al Raza, your “new friend” and beg them for some dinero.
Gee, I wonder who the GOPe learned THAT from...
Paraphrasing a much maligned statement by W: You are either with us or against us, GOPe scum.
I wondered how long it would for these coward senators who supported
Cochran to act as if they had noting to do with these dirty tricks.
Vote every one of these state hacks out of office.
They can smell the tea brewing and know they are next up for removal.
“Now is the time for all Republicans to take sides.”
I 100% agree.
Screw the GOP-e look what they have brought us. Ted should start a new party.
I want these people gone after by any means available. Haley Barbour is a pig, and so is Cochran.
They called their own supporters racists!
They called another elected Republican a member of the KKK.
They despise the white middle class in this country as much as Barack Obama does.
We are paying their salaries and they are spitting in our faces.
I’ve really had it.
I may not vote at all any more.
I’m just infuriated over this and about how the MSM is covering it up, as usual.
Actually they learned it from the portion of the base that to this hour, are out there pushing the ‘no matter what’ meme.
Of course half of them are actual GOP operatives but optics are everything.
and who has redirected money in Ohio to the RNC after Cantor lost? Those people need to be gone too
Already have. It ain’t the GOPe side you can be damn sure.
‘I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me!’
The key thing is pressure. We need Mississippi Republicans to mob the precincts (peacefully but forcefully), with cameras to catch the faces of those denying them ballot access. Its harder to commit crimes when you’re on video.
There is a strong enough case here to overturn the vote right now
Support his pro life, pro gun, anti Obamacare opponent in the General election.
Birds of a feather flock together...puts the lie to the claim that there's a difference between the GOPe and the Democrats.
I like Childers the Dem better that I do Thad anyway.
They are completely on their own now.
Bunch of stinking bags of crap.
“They despise the white middle class in this country as much as Barack Obama does.”
They do if they don’t vote for them, that’s obvious.
Fortunately this fiasco opened lots of eyes. I have seen lots of comments across the sites/blogs about people reregistering as indy. Hopefully when the fundraising numbers get crunched, we will see the true result. And I think that there will be a whole lot less volunteer/GOT stuff in their future.
The no matter what crew must be absolutely seething. Good. Hope they blow a vein.
Edit GOTV stuff
We’ve choked down enough excrement sammiches. It is time for US to draw a red line.
Screw that. I'm NOT that and I'll NEVER be that.
Thing is though, All the Addelbrains in the world can spend till the cows come home. It is meaningless if enough votes cant be manufactured come election day.
Agree. It was on life support before MS.
It’s dead to me after MS.
I am a former Mississippian and I am disgusted.
Yes, they went too far.
Normally, come November I'll hold my nose and vote for the RINO figuring they're still better than Democrats.
Not anymore. What Cochran did (with the support of his party) was underhanded and sleazy. He deserves to lose, McConnell deserves to lose and the Dems can keep and make gains in the Senate as far as I'm concerned.
The GOP played every card they had to defy their base and there need to be consequences. Actively courting black Democrat voters to win a runoff against the leading and more conservative candidate was the final straw.
I've nothing but contempt right now.
I think they’re going to be amazed and caught flat-footed if Ted Cruz and/or Sarah Palin ever run for president. Like I’ve said before, I’m all geared up to raise a million or two dollars and I’m a fat old disabled veteran.
One of those main veins to be specific!
Well, of course, one obvious thing that needs to be done is for McDaniel and his allies in the Mississippi legislature to close their open primaries in the next legislative session. Before Wicker runs for reelection.
One is the lonliest number. perhaps TWO main arteries...so the one isn’t lonely anymore. Save us all more of their liberal electing country destroying crap.
The GOPe have chosen sides and it’s with the Democrats.
Actually the GOP, no e has chosen sides. It is now up to anyone left there with integrity, all THREE to FIVE of them to get out of there or go down with the rest.
There is no E/no E checkbox on the ballot.
Yep, needs to be buried too, the stench is overwhelming
That's the root problem. If MS conservatives had really understood who they were voting for, McDaniel would have won. Cochran's scumbag tactics wouldn't have worked and he'd be a thoroughly disgraced nonentity at this point. He'd be looking for the first train out of the state.
The temptation now will be to punish Cochran by staying home or helping the Democrat win. The problem is that an underinformed conservative base will draw the wrong conclusion if the Democrat wins. They'll blame tea party spoilers. So not only will the Democrat have won, but the tea party will be discredited. It will be a double loss for true conservatives.
The real solution is to educate the MS conservative base. An informed base won't elect scumbag Cochran types, nor will it be fooled into blaming the tea party. That is the answer, but of course it will take work.
What the Cochran campaign and the GOPe did in Mississippi is beyond the pale. Had Cochran won legitimately without resorting to wholly offensive smearing and then whoring himself out to the Democrats — who would never vote for him in the general election — I would say, “Okay, he won the primary with Republican voters, let’s hold our noses and support him in November.”
However, he did not win legitimately (see above), so screw him and the repugnant Barbour and the GOPe who pulled his sorry ass out of the fire, and let the Dim take the seat.
I believe in honor, and what Cochran and Barbour and the GOPe did was the very definition of DISHONORABLE.
Not one dime’s worth of difference.
We need names. Otherwise, they all condone the filthy accusations and illegal voting.
I will never vote for a democrat and I think conservatives who argue for that point are out of their freaking minds. Stay home, write in a conservative but vote for a democrat? Patooey!
This is why I send my money to individual candidates and not to the RNC nor the NSRC or any other nationalized party group.
In Cockroach Cochrans case, it makes no difference because he has proven that he is actually a dirty dem, so vote the real dem in and punish Cochran. I’m sick of these Rove Republicans getting away with trashing conservatives.
“.... how uninformed are conservative voters in MS.”
It has less to do with conservative voters in MS than the Democrat crossover voters.
Yes, I think that is a good idea.
And I think that is all precinct level stuff. I think we may really need to start at the bottom and claw our way up.
Or else, 3rd party, which up until this week I’ve thought was a very, very bad idea.
But if Sarah Palin, or whoever, came out with an announcement tomorrow, I’d join right up.
I read that the Democrat Childers is very conservative, pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment. I’d probably vote for him if I lived there.
Cochran needs to LOSE.
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