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“Several” Republican senators reportedly uneasy with GOP’s tactics in Mississippi runoff
Hot Air ^ | June 27, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 06/27/2014 5:11:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that it’s not the tactics themselves that bother them as much as the attention those tactics are receiving from conservative voters.

Says Red State’s Leon Wolf, “If any of these bastards want to avoid the fallout they should go on the record.”

According to these conversations [with two Republican Senate staffers], some $800,000 was raised for Cochran by his Senate colleagues after the McDaniel victory in the primary’s first round, largely under the rubric of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. This wasn’t seen as a particularly controversial matter at the time; the NRSC is an organization by and for the Republican members of the Senate and Cochran had raised money for his colleagues in the past, so there would have been no reason to deny him help. “It’s just what you do,” said one of the staffers. “It’s generally accepted that we probably can’t win the Senate if we lose our own people, so when Cochran’s people ask for help raising money, the answer is yes.”

Though there were published reports to the effect—and Barbour was open about it—that Cochran’s runoff strategy was to “expand the electorate” by seeking Democratic votes in a Republican primary, there wasn’t a lot of attention paid to where the funds being raised would go. And moreover, when Cochran lost a close race to McDaniel in the first round, there was a general assumption that his goose was cooked. “Nobody thought he’d win regardless of what he did,” said the staffer. “If you’re an incumbent and you’re behind a challenger that close to avoiding a runoff, you’re usually behind the eight-ball.”

As such, the staffers say, it wasn’t until Wednesday, when the fallout began to descend, that Cochran’s tactics became an issue. And now, several senators are more than a little uneasy with those tactics, which they feel responsible for since they raised money for Cochran.

AmSpec offers no names but says there’s “soul-searching” going on among “the Senate’s more outspoken conservatives” for not doing more to help McDaniel when they had the chance. *cough* (Rand Paul, of course, seems to think it was just awesome that Cochran won his party’s nomination with votes from the other party.) Was this, though, as Mollie Hemingway thinks, ultimately a pyrrhic victory for the GOP establishment? Before you say yes, tell me what you’re willing to do to punish the party for kitchen-sinking a guy who not only received the most votes in the first round of the primary but who, by wide consensus, won more Republican votes in the runoff too? Withholding donations is fine, but don’t kid yourselves: Money’s the one thing that GOP incumbents and the NRSC don’t want for. If they lose $10 million from the base in boycotted contributions, Sheldon Adelson can make it up for them in one check to the right Super PAC.

Are you willing to go this far?

Should the Republican establishment in Washington get away with tarring its own voters as racists? Should the Republican establishment in Washington get away with comparing its own base to Klansmen?

If there is no penalty for doing so, they will keep doing it. If there is no consequence, they will attack their own base to preserve their power. They will learn no lesson. In fact, some of you may want to donate to Travis Childers, Thad Cochran’s Democrat opponent. I cannot say that I blame you.

Cochran will now put the highest bidders first. The GOP will carry out this tactic of calling you racist klansmen Nazis everywhere it works. I would like to see the GOP get the majority and oust Harry Reid as leader. But I understand if you think Mississippi can still be sacrificed.

All true. If Cochran trounces Childers in the general election, the lesson learned by Republican incumbents will be that there’s no cost to beating conservative challengers by any means necessary. You guys will always turn out for them in November on the theory that the Democrat is worse, no matter how nasty to you they are in the primary, so they might as well be as nasty as they like. The question is, is the Democrat worse this time? He may be worse than Cochran on policy, but is he worse than the filthy patronage system that supports Cochran and which he supports in turn? That’s what you’re voting for, whether you like it or not, if you vote for Thad.

There are risks here. Electing Childers could give the Democrats the 50th Senate seat they need in the fall to preserve their majority. (Biden would cast the deciding vote in case of 50/50 ties, of course.) That’s not a big risk on legislation given that Republicans will control the House but it’s a huge risk on Supreme Court nominations, if/when Harry Reid ends up nuking the filibuster and allowing confirmation by simple majority vote. If O knows he can get a nominee through with just 51 votes, he’ll feel safer nominating someone who’s further left. Also, the more seats you hand to Democrats now, the better position they’ll be in come 2016, when they’re expected to clean up in battleground states. Sean Trende thinks there’s even a (small) chance that Democrats will win a filibuster-proof majority. If you sacrifice Mississippi now, you’re making that marginally more likely.

The counterargument is simple, though: If not now, when? The GOP might do well enough in the fall to retake the Senate even if they lose Mississippi. If they don’t retake it, that’s not a disaster — this is, by Nate Silver’s estimate, the “least important election in years” because control of the upper chamber matters so little. The GOP will have more leverage over Court confirmations if they have a majority, but who knows if there’ll even be a vacancy on the Court? And gridlock on legislation is a fait accompli given Obama’s standoff with the Republican House regardless of what the Senate does. If you’re unwilling to risk a protest vote for a Democrat after the grotesque spectacle of a group of GOP cronies using liberal votes to prop up an elderly man whose heart isn’t in it anymore, you’ll never be willing. And if you’re unwilling, maybe it’s time to stop complaining about Cochran and cronyism and the rest of it and accept that this is who we are and who we’re going to be.


TOPICS: Mississippi; Campaign News; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2014; cochran; gop; mcdaniel; mississippi; randpaul; republicans
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1 posted on 06/27/2014 5:11:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mark Levin EXPOSING this right now.

It appears the ads saying McDaniel was a member of the KKK may land Barbour in hot legal water, since it used a shell activist group not registered in the state


2 posted on 06/27/2014 5:13:14 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too late, suckers. No do over.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 5:13:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now is the time for all Republicans to take sides.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 5:14:27 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The runoff showed just as I had feared how uninformed are conservative voters in MS.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 5:16:24 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a third candidate on the general election ballot?


6 posted on 06/27/2014 5:17:14 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP’s Mississippi Mud antics pissed me off. That’s why I just laugh each time caller I.D. tells me the GOP is on the phone wanting to mooch some money. Adios Pubbies! Call Al Raza, your “new friend” and beg them for some dinero.


7 posted on 06/27/2014 5:17:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Feed the wacko enrviromentalists to the starving polar bears.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If there is no penalty for doing so, they will keep doing it.

Gee, I wonder who the GOPe learned THAT from...


8 posted on 06/27/2014 5:17:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: freedomfiter2

Paraphrasing a much maligned statement by W: You are either with us or against us, GOPe scum.


9 posted on 06/27/2014 5:17:51 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wondered how long it would for these coward senators who supported
Cochran to act as if they had noting to do with these dirty tricks.

Vote every one of these state hacks out of office.
They can smell the tea brewing and know they are next up for removal.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 5:18:54 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: freedomfiter2

“Now is the time for all Republicans to take sides.”

I 100% agree.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 5:19:24 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw the GOP-e look what they have brought us. Ted should start a new party.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 5:20:11 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Viennacon

I want these people gone after by any means available. Haley Barbour is a pig, and so is Cochran.

They called their own supporters racists!

They called another elected Republican a member of the KKK.

They despise the white middle class in this country as much as Barack Obama does.

We are paying their salaries and they are spitting in our faces.

I’ve really had it.

I may not vote at all any more.

I’m just infuriated over this and about how the MSM is covering it up, as usual.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 5:21:55 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: COBOL2Java

Actually they learned it from the portion of the base that to this hour, are out there pushing the ‘no matter what’ meme.

Of course half of them are actual GOP operatives but optics are everything.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 5:21:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: jocon307

and who has redirected money in Ohio to the RNC after Cantor lost? Those people need to be gone too


15 posted on 06/27/2014 5:22:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: freedomfiter2

Already have. It ain’t the GOPe side you can be damn sure.

‘I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me!’


16 posted on 06/27/2014 5:24:12 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: jocon307

The key thing is pressure. We need Mississippi Republicans to mob the precincts (peacefully but forcefully), with cameras to catch the faces of those denying them ballot access. Its harder to commit crimes when you’re on video.

There is a strong enough case here to overturn the vote right now


17 posted on 06/27/2014 5:24:34 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Before you say yes, tell me what you’re willing to do to punish the party for kitchen-sinking a guy who not only received the most votes in the first round of the primary but who, by wide consensus, won more Republican votes in the runoff too?

Support his pro life, pro gun, anti Obamacare opponent in the General election.

18 posted on 06/27/2014 5:24:35 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Republican party is dead to me, it died in Mississippi.
19 posted on 06/27/2014 5:27:06 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTTTT!!!!!!


20 posted on 06/27/2014 5:27:39 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The NRSC is effing dead to me. DEAD!
21 posted on 06/27/2014 5:30:14 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Actually they learned it from the portion of the base that to this hour, are out there pushing the ‘no matter what’ meme.

Birds of a feather flock together...puts the lie to the claim that there's a difference between the GOPe and the Democrats.

22 posted on 06/27/2014 5:30:47 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Childers the Dem better that I do Thad anyway.


23 posted on 06/27/2014 5:32:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uneasy?

They are completely on their own now.

Bunch of stinking bags of crap.


24 posted on 06/27/2014 5:34:22 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: jocon307

“They despise the white middle class in this country as much as Barack Obama does.”

They do if they don’t vote for them, that’s obvious.


25 posted on 06/27/2014 5:35:39 PM PDT by Andy'smom (How many more acts of love can we take?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Fortunately this fiasco opened lots of eyes. I have seen lots of comments across the sites/blogs about people reregistering as indy. Hopefully when the fundraising numbers get crunched, we will see the true result. And I think that there will be a whole lot less volunteer/GOT stuff in their future.

The no matter what crew must be absolutely seething. Good. Hope they blow a vein.


26 posted on 06/27/2014 5:36:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Edit GOTV stuff


27 posted on 06/27/2014 5:38:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Withholding donations is fine, but don’t kid yourselves: Money’s the one thing that GOP incumbents and the NRSC don’t want for. If they lose $10 million from the base in boycotted contributions, Sheldon Adelson can make it up for them in one check to the right Super PAC.

That's there bottom line. They don't stand for the people, just like the democrats. They do the bidding of big donors, big lobby and big chamber of commerce.
28 posted on 06/27/2014 5:39:09 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve choked down enough excrement sammiches. It is time for US to draw a red line.


29 posted on 06/27/2014 5:41:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And if you’re unwilling, maybe it’s time to stop complaining about Cochran and cronyism and the rest of it and accept that this is who we are and who we’re going to be.

Screw that. I'm NOT that and I'll NEVER be that.

30 posted on 06/27/2014 5:41:37 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Linda Frances

Thing is though, All the Addelbrains in the world can spend till the cows come home. It is meaningless if enough votes cant be manufactured come election day.


31 posted on 06/27/2014 5:44:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: The Cajun

Agree. It was on life support before MS.
It’s dead to me after MS.
I am a former Mississippian and I am disgusted.


32 posted on 06/27/2014 5:44:51 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: The Cajun
The Republican party is dead to me, it died in Mississippi.

Yes, they went too far.

Normally, come November I'll hold my nose and vote for the RINO figuring they're still better than Democrats.

Not anymore. What Cochran did (with the support of his party) was underhanded and sleazy. He deserves to lose, McConnell deserves to lose and the Dems can keep and make gains in the Senate as far as I'm concerned.

The GOP played every card they had to defy their base and there need to be consequences. Actively courting black Democrat voters to win a runoff against the leading and more conservative candidate was the final straw.

I've nothing but contempt right now.

33 posted on 06/27/2014 5:45:16 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Linda Frances

I think they’re going to be amazed and caught flat-footed if Ted Cruz and/or Sarah Palin ever run for president. Like I’ve said before, I’m all geared up to raise a million or two dollars and I’m a fat old disabled veteran.


34 posted on 06/27/2014 5:46:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

One of those main veins to be specific!


35 posted on 06/27/2014 5:47:38 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, of course, one obvious thing that needs to be done is for McDaniel and his allies in the Mississippi legislature to close their open primaries in the next legislative session. Before Wicker runs for reelection.


36 posted on 06/27/2014 5:47:41 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: tennmountainman

One is the lonliest number. perhaps TWO main arteries...so the one isn’t lonely anymore. Save us all more of their liberal electing country destroying crap.


37 posted on 06/27/2014 5:50:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: piytar

The GOPe have chosen sides and it’s with the Democrats.


38 posted on 06/27/2014 5:52:52 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Actually the GOP, no e has chosen sides. It is now up to anyone left there with integrity, all THREE to FIVE of them to get out of there or go down with the rest.

There is no E/no E checkbox on the ballot.


39 posted on 06/27/2014 6:01:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: The Cajun

Yep, needs to be buried too, the stench is overwhelming


40 posted on 06/27/2014 6:02:30 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Theodore R.
The runoff showed just as I had feared how uninformed are conservative voters in MS.

That's the root problem. If MS conservatives had really understood who they were voting for, McDaniel would have won. Cochran's scumbag tactics wouldn't have worked and he'd be a thoroughly disgraced nonentity at this point. He'd be looking for the first train out of the state.

The temptation now will be to punish Cochran by staying home or helping the Democrat win. The problem is that an underinformed conservative base will draw the wrong conclusion if the Democrat wins. They'll blame tea party spoilers. So not only will the Democrat have won, but the tea party will be discredited. It will be a double loss for true conservatives.

The real solution is to educate the MS conservative base. An informed base won't elect scumbag Cochran types, nor will it be fooled into blaming the tea party. That is the answer, but of course it will take work.

41 posted on 06/27/2014 6:04:25 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: The Cajun

What the Cochran campaign and the GOPe did in Mississippi is beyond the pale. Had Cochran won legitimately without resorting to wholly offensive smearing and then whoring himself out to the Democrats — who would never vote for him in the general election — I would say, “Okay, he won the primary with Republican voters, let’s hold our noses and support him in November.”

However, he did not win legitimately (see above), so screw him and the repugnant Barbour and the GOPe who pulled his sorry ass out of the fire, and let the Dim take the seat.

I believe in honor, and what Cochran and Barbour and the GOPe did was the very definition of DISHONORABLE.


42 posted on 06/27/2014 6:07:21 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not one dime’s worth of difference.


43 posted on 06/27/2014 6:07:59 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need names. Otherwise, they all condone the filthy accusations and illegal voting.


44 posted on 06/27/2014 6:10:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will never vote for a democrat and I think conservatives who argue for that point are out of their freaking minds. Stay home, write in a conservative but vote for a democrat? Patooey!


45 posted on 06/27/2014 6:13:15 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is why I send my money to individual candidates and not to the RNC nor the NSRC or any other nationalized party group.


46 posted on 06/27/2014 6:14:36 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Clean_Sweep

In Cockroach Cochrans case, it makes no difference because he has proven that he is actually a dirty dem, so vote the real dem in and punish Cochran. I’m sick of these Rove Republicans getting away with trashing conservatives.


47 posted on 06/27/2014 6:15:11 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Theodore R.

“.... how uninformed are conservative voters in MS.”

It has less to do with conservative voters in MS than the Democrat crossover voters.


48 posted on 06/27/2014 6:15:46 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Viennacon

Yes, I think that is a good idea.


49 posted on 06/27/2014 6:20:00 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: GeronL

And I think that is all precinct level stuff. I think we may really need to start at the bottom and claw our way up.

Or else, 3rd party, which up until this week I’ve thought was a very, very bad idea.

But if Sarah Palin, or whoever, came out with an announcement tomorrow, I’d join right up.

I read that the Democrat Childers is very conservative, pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment. I’d probably vote for him if I lived there.

Cochran needs to LOSE.


50 posted on 06/27/2014 6:22:31 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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