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Hispanic Growth Not Turning Texas Blue as Expected
Breitbart's Texas ^ | July 5, 2014 | Bob Price

Posted on 07/05/2014 7:56:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

HOUSTON, Texas—The enormous growth of the Hispanic population does not seem to be turning Texas blue as fast as many political pundits expected. Recent data from the U.S. Census Bureau revealed a decreasing non-Hispanic white population and a rapidly growing Hispanic population. The growth of the Hispanic population over the past fourteen years was expected to make a huge difference in Texas’ Republican vs. Democrat voting patterns. It appears it has not.

A report in the Washington Post indicates this may not be the case. The article by Philip Bump, contains a series of interactive demographic maps that illustrate several different views of Hispanic population density and Republican/Democrat voting history. The report indicates more whites died than were born last year. On the other hand, both the Hispanic and Asian communities grew in population percentage.

“The popular thinking is that the change in the American population portends bad news for a Republican Party that's still heavily dependent on support from those older, whiter voters,” Bump states. “Our thinking: What better place to track how that evolution might occur than Texas.”

The report compares the 2000 and 2012 presidential election results and compares them to Hispanic population density in Texas. It concludes that while there was a close link between the density of a county’s Hispanic population and its support for Democrat candidates, the voting pattern for that county did not change as the county became less white and more Hispanic.

“This backs up two key points I have been making these last few years,” said Steve Munisteri, Chairman of the Republican Party of Texas in an interview with Breitbart Texas. “First, the state got more competitive than people realize in 2008 (this article shows a 5% increase for Democrats between 2004 and 2008), but since....

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TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; republicans; texas

1 posted on 07/05/2014 7:56:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well congress is going back down there so with what blue they do have and the yellow of the congress critters we ought to have a lovely greeny shade...


2 posted on 07/05/2014 7:58:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most Hispanics are Christian and have at least some family values. The democratic party is the party of evil.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 8:03:49 PM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has been tackled before very succinctly. While the state is seeing some modest change, the fact is Hispanics who settle in Texas (while still voting majority Democrat) have a smaller split between the parties than in other states. Other than perhaps Florida, Texas actually has probably the highest percentage of conservative Hispanic voters.

For all its faults (Cornyn), the Texas GOP is one of the better state parties. In fact, it ranks right up there in the top 5. The resistance to the grassroots is a lot weaker, and the candidates make very good cases for conservatism.
If the state parties of the nation were more like Texas, Illinois would be very competitive in a Midterm cycle, and Alaska would never elect scum like Begich.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon
For all its faults (Cornyn),

Spit!

/johnny

5 posted on 07/05/2014 8:08:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it were to turn out that recently naturalized Hispanic immigrants were voting majority Republican, you would see a 300-foot-high, 50-foot-thick wall, topped with remote-controlled miniguns, rocket launchers and electrified razor wire built in a matter of weeks. Land mines on both sides of it. A half-mile killing zone on the US side, patrolled by military guard dogs with steel inlays in their teeth.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 8:09:47 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There could be several explanations, but one is that it’s generally accepted that about 1/3 of the Hispanics in the US are here illegally. Some illegals probably vote, but a huge majority probably don’t.

So, a significant percentage of Hispanics in the US don’t vote, which is the main reason the Dims are frothing at the mouth to pass amnesty, and the main reason any Republican is a self-destructive fool to support amnesty.


7 posted on 07/05/2014 8:21:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Democrats need only be patient. Unrestricted illegal immigration plus government benefits will eventually turn the country blue. The GOP will still have a decent number of senators and governors, but the levels of power will all be controlled by the Democrats.

Sorry for being so pessimistic. Bush II was our last hope. But he fumbled the ball, and the opposition ain't giving the ball back.

8 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:35 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I work EVERY DAY with Hispanics, in Texas, lots of them.

The ones that I work with, other than their names, and varying degrees of accents, are IDENTICAL to the whites I work with, especially when it comes to politics - and yes, they are CONSERVATIVE.

The Dems are not going to get very far with Hispanics here by nominating a FLAMING LIBERAL, educated in the Northeast, who hates men. Maybe that can work in California, but not in Texas.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 8:41:28 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Leaning Right

This story could have been written in 1991 about California.

And it’s not just about hispanics, although that’s huge.

The political, economic and media elite live in cities that lean strongly Democrat (Austin, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio) — they look on the Republican suburban and rural majority as alien and out of touch, and are teaching that majority’s children exactly that. Outside of frat row, the politics at students at UT, A&M and Rice couldn’t be differentiated from that of students at UCLA or Rutgers.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 8:44:27 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other party is the party of “Hail Satan,” isn’t it?


11 posted on 07/05/2014 8:48:47 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

bump


12 posted on 07/05/2014 8:53:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yet..


13 posted on 07/05/2014 9:06:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: only1percent
‘Outside of frat row, the politics at students at UT, A&M and Rice couldn’t be differentiated from that of students at UCLA or Rutgers.’

Which is why a man I know told his son (they live in Florida) that the boy had the choice of going to Florida Baptist College for ALL FOUR YEARS or paying his own way to U of F or where ever. FBC does not permit freshmen or I think sophomores to have automobiles either on campus or garaged in the small city it is located in. The kid is not happy but will comply. I strongly suggest others do likewise and find a small evangelical if possible religiously oriented 4 year undergrad college rather than let their sons and daughters be debauched by the corrupt student culture of some place like LSU or U of F and brain washed by the collectivist leftist faculty.

14 posted on 07/05/2014 9:31:22 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: BobL
The ones that I work with, other than their names, and varying degrees of accents, are IDENTICAL to the whites I work with, especially when it comes to politics - and yes, they are CONSERVATIVE.

That has been my experience also. One of my hispanic friends I met in the early 80s. Whenever Ronald Reagan was on TV he would shush the heck out of people to shut the heck up so he could listen to his favorite president.

Most hispanics live their lives as conservatives. The only reason they will vote for a democrat is because they are lacking in political knowledge.

15 posted on 07/05/2014 9:33:17 PM PDT by Slyfox (When progressives ignore moral parameters, they also lose the natural gift of common sense.)
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To: only1percent
In Texas a good choice would seem to be Howard Payne University in Brownwood.
16 posted on 07/05/2014 9:34:30 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
FBC does not permit freshmen or I think sophomores to have automobiles either on campus or garaged in the small city it is located in.

Can they have motorcycles, motor boats, hang gliders?

17 posted on 07/05/2014 9:36:17 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: only1percent
A&M Liberal?

LOL!

A&M has the largest Corps of Cadets in the country outside the military academies.

18 posted on 07/05/2014 9:41:31 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: only1percent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwn_BRYF1qI


19 posted on 07/05/2014 9:56:08 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Will88

Only 22% of voters in Texas are hispanic. So many are illegal, guest workers or under 18. It would still be decades before the state turns blue.

The GOP get 80% of the white vote in Texas and only around 50% of the white vote in California. That is a bigger difference.


20 posted on 07/05/2014 10:22:31 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BobL
Re: “I work EVERY DAY with Hispanics, in Texas - they are CONSERVATIVE.”

Sorry, Bob, that's just not true.

In 2012, Texas Hispanics voted:

Obama: 70%
Romney: 29%

Ted Cruz: 35%
Paul Sadler(D): 65%

This poll comes from Latino Decisions.

Here's the link:

http://americasvoiceonline.org/press_releases/new-poll-how-texas-latino-and-new-citizen-voters-influenced-the-2012-elections/

21 posted on 07/05/2014 10:42:51 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: steve86
Can they have motorcycles, motor boats, hang gliders?

I imagine not. The purpose of the no car rule is to make it as difficult as possible for the undergrads to spend weekends dissipating on the Gulf coast in places such as Panama City.

22 posted on 07/05/2014 11:01:34 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Slyfox; All
‘Most hispanics live their lives as conservatives. The only reason they will vote for a democrat is because they are lacking in political knowledge. ‘
The Latino population is large and diverse and it, unfortunately, encompasses a very large underclass that is almost as vicious and depraved as that of the blackamoors. In reality the gangbangers that are Mex or Salvadorean and their women seem to be more vicious and depraved than the blacks. These people hate whitey as much as thug blacks and can to some degree be mobilized to vote early and often for the Dems.
23 posted on 07/05/2014 11:05:55 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Hispanic Growth Not Turning Texas Blue as Expected”

That’s the reason illegals are being encouraged to flood across our borders ... particularly in Texas. CA is already blue enough.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 11:09:15 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Re: “Only 22% of voters in Texas are hispanic.”

I will guess that is the “turn out” number, not the “eligible” number.

According to Pew Research, 26% of “eligible” voters in Texas were Hispanic in 2012.

That number will go up in 2014.

New 18-20 year old American born Hispanic citizens will be eligible to vote.

At least 100,000 more Texas Hispanics have been naturalized in the last two years.

And the total number of white voters has declined slightly since 2012.

Re: “The GOP get 80% of the white vote in Texas”

I think that might be high.

I have not seen a poll for white voters in 2012.

However, in 2008, John McCain got just 73% of the white vote.

Re: “The GOP get around 50% of the white vote in California”

I think most people will be shocked to learn that white California voters voted like this in 2012:

Romney: 53%
Obama: 45%

25 posted on 07/05/2014 11:41:08 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Find one illegal to cast a vote for a republican and the border would shut down in seconds.


26 posted on 07/06/2014 12:54:57 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not yet...


27 posted on 07/06/2014 1:13:08 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Yes, that is the main reason that others states turn blue. The white vote is more evenly split.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 1:25:48 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The legal Hispanics are generally hard-working and do not cotton to those who steal their tax dollars (through the government proxy system called the IRS) and give the rest of them a bad name.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 3:43:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Leaning Right

You are right, and the American people are wrong.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 4:24:53 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Hispanics in TX vote Democrat because they believe the old line about the Democrats being for “the little people like me.”


31 posted on 07/06/2014 4:26:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: robowombat

Good for you, but most of the American people are too poor to fund a private college.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 4:28:28 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Steely Tom

LOL! You got that right!


33 posted on 07/06/2014 4:47:43 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: zeestephen

“Ted Cruz: 35%
Paul Sadler(D): 65%”

That’s not bad - and Bush was able to hit 40%. The ones that I work with are certainly not a cross-section of Hispanics - they are better educated and have something to lose - but it does show that they are not “owned” by Democrats, and these numbers show the same.

The problem for Democrats that it will take A LOT MORE Hispanics to give them the votes they need if even 35% of them are willing to vote Republican - and that assumes the number is fixed. Inch it up to 40% and they’re almost useless to Democrats if Republicans can hold the white vote.

That’s why the Dems STILL aren’t getting anywhere in Texas. If the black population were swapped with the Hispanics here (in percentages), we would already another California.


34 posted on 07/06/2014 4:50:33 AM PDT by BobL
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To: only1percent
close link between the density of a county’s Hispanic population and its support for Democrat candidates

Population density drives support for big gov, period. It does not matter if the population is white or hispanic. Big gov lovers take majority control the world over once an area's population density reaches 1,000 people per square mile.

Peak People occurs about the year 2055. Peak White People has already occurred. Unless the DNA codes get beamed out to space there will never be more white people than there is now anywhere in the universe.

35 posted on 07/06/2014 5:11:17 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Only 22% of voters in Texas are hispanic. So many are illegal, guest workers or under 18. It would still be decades before the state turns blue.

But if amnesty is passed, within a few years Hispanics will be 30% or more of Texas voters as the amnestied illegals begin to vote.

And I haven't seen anything that says Republicans are winning the Hispanic vote in Texas. Some claim that W got 44%, but that's the highest claim I've seen and many dispute that since it was based only on exit polls.

And, at present, there is no reason to believe any administration will stop the de facto open borders that will add more and more Hispanic voters.

36 posted on 07/06/2014 6:38:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: trebb

Then why do legal Hispanics vote democrat?


37 posted on 07/06/2014 11:50:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is mostly right-wing wishful thinking reminiscent of California 25 years ago.. Just give it a little time..


38 posted on 07/06/2014 8:49:42 PM PDT by nwrep
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