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Scarborough Outright Dismisses Rand Paul 2016: He’s ‘His Father’s Son’
Mediaite ^ | July 14, 2014 | Matt Wilstein

Posted on 07/14/2014 7:09:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Monday, Morning Joe played a game of “Fact or Fiction” and Joe Scarborough had a lot to say when they arrived at this prediction: Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) will win the 2016 GOP nomination. “Fiction, fiction, fiction,” Scarborough declared.

Scarborough admitted that if Paul runs he will probably do well in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, but beyond that, “he will be his father’s son.”

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell said he “would have agreed” with Scarborough assessment, but does not know who on the Republican side has what it takes to beat Paul. “I have to continue to look at the field and I have to come up with a name that can get the nomination in this party,” he said. The best anyone seated around the table to come up with was Mitt Romney.

“Who will beat him?” Eugene Robinson said of Paul. “Somebody. I just don’t see him as the nominee, and if push comes to shove, here comes Mitt.”

Earlier this year, Paul won the annual straw poll at CPAC for the second year in a row, beating Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who came in second. Ron Paul won that contest in 2010 and 2011, but was never able to come close to securing the Republican nomination for president.

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TOPICS: Florida; Kentucky; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; amnesty; msm; openborders; paultard; randpaul; scarborough; truth

1 posted on 07/14/2014 7:09:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’d get my vote every time. That said, my track record ain’t all that great.


2 posted on 07/14/2014 7:23:03 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think so too. Never impressed me like Cruz, Gowdy and Palin.


3 posted on 07/14/2014 7:25:19 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is Joe Scarborough?


4 posted on 07/14/2014 7:25:35 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

A murdering squinting eye dangerous stranger looking pow


5 posted on 07/14/2014 7:27:00 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: al baby

Pos


6 posted on 07/14/2014 7:27:23 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s not quite his father. Ron Paul is a little kooky, but I can’t really say he’s a sellout.


7 posted on 07/14/2014 7:38:06 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: First Authority
The dopers will vote for him because they think he is his father.

Deep.

9 posted on 07/14/2014 7:56:11 PM PDT by sargon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Paul’s must have some plan to maintain the family business, already Rand has gotten farther than his farther ever did, he actually won a statewide office.


10 posted on 07/14/2014 8:12:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look, we all know this is a conservative site, and what people here prefer. But we also know how GOP Presidential politcs work (if there is any doubt, see 2008 and 2012).

Realistically, it’s probably already too late for anyone to mount a 3rd party effort, and it most likely would not lead to success and split the vote so that the Democrat wins.

But please help me understand how it is that the GOP will come to do what is necessary (in terms of campaign resources, allocation of funds, messaging, etc.) to enable a conservative to become the 2016 nominee. All I’ve seen thus far is public disdain and dismissal of people like Palin and Cruz from the GOP. In private, I’m sure it is more like outright hatred. When the leaders of their own party are against them, how can they win?

I’m not saying Rand Paul should be the nominee, but I am able to see a stronger logical path for that to happen. And I think that is what these panelists did, too.


11 posted on 07/14/2014 8:26:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: gorush

I don’t often, but I agree with Joe 100% this time. Rand is a joke and he is no Conservative. Hildabeast is probably more conservative.


12 posted on 07/14/2014 8:33:37 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: bigbob

Did you hear them discussing MITT ROMNEY as the nominee? As I’ve said before, if either Cruz or Palin or both run or are the nominees, I will raise at least one million dollars and teach others how to fundraise. I really can’t walk precincts anymore, but I’ll do what I can.


13 posted on 07/14/2014 8:34:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh No!
I agree w Joe!


14 posted on 07/14/2014 9:02:56 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d have to agree. Some of his recent statements have totally turned me off on him. Sadly, another Rubio.


15 posted on 07/14/2014 9:04:35 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Scab is usually a joke but he right about Rand Paul.

Go Cruz-Palin or Palin-Cruz


16 posted on 07/14/2014 9:06:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whats the old saying about a stopped clock?


17 posted on 07/14/2014 9:41:26 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know you would, and I just hope we get a chance to do so. But if the GOP does to conservatives who dare to challenge the GOP elitist like we saw them do in Mississippi....

As I’ve said many times, we’re doing to either have to take over the Republican party or leave it and start anew. Either could work but the latter will take a lot longer and I’m not sure the country has the time.

So the question always comes back to: how do conservatives take control of the GOP? It won’t happen with one US Senator who is despised by the GOP-e or in the middle of the circular firing squad.

Who’s going to get these guys to put their money on the right horse?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79413.html


18 posted on 07/14/2014 9:49:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz / Palin? Seems highly implausible to me. It would be strange for Palin to run for VP a second time, and an odd situation where the Donks have a woman at the top of the ticket and the GOP a woman in the number two spot.

Palin's only plausible spot is at the top of the ticket. Palin / Cruz would make more sense.

But, I tihnk Cruz is stronger candidate for the general. I'd be happy with either, or both, but don't think the Cruz/Palin ticket will happen.

19 posted on 07/14/2014 9:52:11 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: bigbob
I’m not saying Rand Paul should be the nominee, but I am able to see a stronger logical path for that to happen. And I think that is what these panelists did, too.

It's like the underdog Tea Party guy said who took down Eric Cantor "In the end money doesn't vote, you do".

In 2012 the GOP nomination was split into fragments. Santorum won many states, Gingrich won a few, and in the end Romney had enough to nab the nomination. It wasn't the GOP machine that did that, GOP primary voters and caucus goers did.

If Cruz, Paul or Palin grabs the immagination of the base, runs a good campaign and wins enough primaries they will be the nominee.

Last time on FR you had Freepers all over the place: a big contingent of Hermain Cain supporters, Santorum supporters, Bachmann early in the race, etc.

One thing I will say about Rand: he does appear to be building a professional organization to run and win. That doesn't guarantee victory, but it makes it possible.

So that's the logical path: good organization, early momentum, consrvatives coming together around him, and perhaps a fractured GOP mainstream with Rubio, Gov. Christie Creme, Jindal.

Scott Walker is out there too.

20 posted on 07/14/2014 10:00:44 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

You of course assume that Hillary will be their nominee. She couldn’t beat a neophyte freshman senator but she’ll hold off all those people on her side who want to be president?


21 posted on 07/14/2014 10:02:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: cdcdawg

I think chicken hawks are delusional. America is bankrupt by any standards of Accounting practices. $17.6 TRILLION in official debt, and one hundred Trillion in UNFUNDED liabilities to Medicare, Social Security and others, America is now beyond bankrupt nation.

Super powers can only exist on economic superior foundation. Like USA was in the 1950’s & 60’s, and 80’s (thanks to Reagan). Every super power of past 5000 year recorded history of world met it’s demise by engaging in foreign military adventures with a bankrupt treasury.

But all the chicken hawks care about is the MIC, on the backs of our children & grand children.

Wake up to reality and smell the coffee. All our efforts should be on strengthening the domestic economy and pay off the debt. We need foreign military adventures like a hole in the head at this period in history.


22 posted on 07/14/2014 11:58:21 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, Jimmy Carter is relieved!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But I want to know what Scarborough’s dead intern thinks of 2016!


23 posted on 07/15/2014 11:32:03 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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