Posted on 07/14/2014 7:09:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
On Monday, Morning Joe played a game of “Fact or Fiction” and Joe Scarborough had a lot to say when they arrived at this prediction: Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) will win the 2016 GOP nomination. “Fiction, fiction, fiction,” Scarborough declared.
Scarborough admitted that if Paul runs he will probably do well in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, but beyond that, “he will be his father’s son.”
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell said he “would have agreed” with Scarborough assessment, but does not know who on the Republican side has what it takes to beat Paul. “I have to continue to look at the field and I have to come up with a name that can get the nomination in this party,” he said. The best anyone seated around the table to come up with was Mitt Romney.
“Who will beat him?” Eugene Robinson said of Paul. “Somebody. I just don’t see him as the nominee, and if push comes to shove, here comes Mitt.”
Earlier this year, Paul won the annual straw poll at CPAC for the second year in a row, beating Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who came in second. Ron Paul won that contest in 2010 and 2011, but was never able to come close to securing the Republican nomination for president.
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They’d get my vote every time. That said, my track record ain’t all that great.
I think so too. Never impressed me like Cruz, Gowdy and Palin.
Who is Joe Scarborough?
A murdering squinting eye dangerous stranger looking pow
Pos
He’s not quite his father. Ron Paul is a little kooky, but I can’t really say he’s a sellout.
Deep.
The Paul’s must have some plan to maintain the family business, already Rand has gotten farther than his farther ever did, he actually won a statewide office.
Look, we all know this is a conservative site, and what people here prefer. But we also know how GOP Presidential politcs work (if there is any doubt, see 2008 and 2012).
Realistically, it’s probably already too late for anyone to mount a 3rd party effort, and it most likely would not lead to success and split the vote so that the Democrat wins.
But please help me understand how it is that the GOP will come to do what is necessary (in terms of campaign resources, allocation of funds, messaging, etc.) to enable a conservative to become the 2016 nominee. All I’ve seen thus far is public disdain and dismissal of people like Palin and Cruz from the GOP. In private, I’m sure it is more like outright hatred. When the leaders of their own party are against them, how can they win?
I’m not saying Rand Paul should be the nominee, but I am able to see a stronger logical path for that to happen. And I think that is what these panelists did, too.
I don’t often, but I agree with Joe 100% this time. Rand is a joke and he is no Conservative. Hildabeast is probably more conservative.
Did you hear them discussing MITT ROMNEY as the nominee? As I’ve said before, if either Cruz or Palin or both run or are the nominees, I will raise at least one million dollars and teach others how to fundraise. I really can’t walk precincts anymore, but I’ll do what I can.
Oh No!
I agree w Joe!
I’d have to agree. Some of his recent statements have totally turned me off on him. Sadly, another Rubio.
The Scab is usually a joke but he right about Rand Paul.
Go Cruz-Palin or Palin-Cruz
Whats the old saying about a stopped clock?
I know you would, and I just hope we get a chance to do so. But if the GOP does to conservatives who dare to challenge the GOP elitist like we saw them do in Mississippi....
As I’ve said many times, we’re doing to either have to take over the Republican party or leave it and start anew. Either could work but the latter will take a lot longer and I’m not sure the country has the time.
So the question always comes back to: how do conservatives take control of the GOP? It won’t happen with one US Senator who is despised by the GOP-e or in the middle of the circular firing squad.
Who’s going to get these guys to put their money on the right horse?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79413.html
Palin's only plausible spot is at the top of the ticket. Palin / Cruz would make more sense.
But, I tihnk Cruz is stronger candidate for the general. I'd be happy with either, or both, but don't think the Cruz/Palin ticket will happen.
It's like the underdog Tea Party guy said who took down Eric Cantor "In the end money doesn't vote, you do".
In 2012 the GOP nomination was split into fragments. Santorum won many states, Gingrich won a few, and in the end Romney had enough to nab the nomination. It wasn't the GOP machine that did that, GOP primary voters and caucus goers did.
If Cruz, Paul or Palin grabs the immagination of the base, runs a good campaign and wins enough primaries they will be the nominee.
Last time on FR you had Freepers all over the place: a big contingent of Hermain Cain supporters, Santorum supporters, Bachmann early in the race, etc.
One thing I will say about Rand: he does appear to be building a professional organization to run and win. That doesn't guarantee victory, but it makes it possible.
So that's the logical path: good organization, early momentum, consrvatives coming together around him, and perhaps a fractured GOP mainstream with Rubio, Gov. Christie Creme, Jindal.
Scott Walker is out there too.
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