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The coming progressive schism (Elizabeth Warren, netroots, Hobby Lobby, Hillary and 2016)
Hot Air ^ | July 19, 2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 07/19/2014 5:12:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s big trouble in little Progressivetown, folks. That’s trouble with a capital T, which rhymes with We, as in We (meaning Daily KOS) won’t be going to Netroots Nation next year because it’s being held in Arizona.

Netroots Nation announced two days ago that Phoenix, Arizona would host its 2015 conference. I wish the conference the best, but it will unfortunately take place without Daily Kos’ attendance or assistance.

I made very clear in the wake of Arizona’s passage of SB 1070 that I would not be setting foot in the state, nor spending a dime in it until the law was revoked. The law, however gutted by the courts, remains on the books, as does systemic harassment of Latinos, so my pledge still stands.

This seems to be yet another example of a trend noted in the media this week, in which liberals were fighting an internecine battle over immigration policy and the President’s response to the situation at the border. Clearly Markos came down on the nay side of the question, or perhaps “neigh” (sorry…) leading to the opt out. This shocking announcement comes on the heels of the current Netroots Nation, which actually seemed to be picking up some steam this year with the addition of Elizabeth Warren as a featured speaker.

Warren defined the conservatives’ “internal motto” as “I got mine, the rest of you are on your own.” By contrast, she said progressives are guided by the “principle” that “we all do better when we work together and invest in building a future… not just for some of our kids, but for all of our kids.” …

“Oh, and we believe that corporations are not people, that women to have a right to their bodies,” she said to escalating cheers. “We will overturn Hobby Lobby and we will fight for it!”

This is more unusual than it sounds at first blush. I’ve written repeatedly over the years on the subject of liberal cohesion and how it often outshines conservatives in that area. The progressive movement is actually made up of a far more splintered, eclectic groups of single issue voters than you typically find in the three legs of the conservative stool. Various strains of feminists, abortion rights groups, multiple racial equality columns, environmental activists, societal safety net socialists, outright communists and others all have traditionally seemed to put aside their various differences or jockeying for top billing and work together to elect the most left leaning Democrat they can enlist.

But this is something different. The hard boiled, further left activists are close to outright rebelling against Hillary, starting the Ready for Warren movement, and the cornerstones of progressivism like Markos are boycotting their own keystone events. There’s something in the air, and all you can really do is get out the popcorn.


TOPICS: Arizona; Massachusetts; Michigan; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: arizona; elizabethwarren; fauxohontas; hillary; hillary2016; hobbylobby; immigration; lieawatha; massachusetts; michigan; netroots; nutroots; schism

1 posted on 07/19/2014 5:12:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha, that’s pretty good.


2 posted on 07/19/2014 5:14:07 PM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: corlorde

The Dems know in their heart it is time to move past Hillary.


3 posted on 07/19/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure there will be millions of Arizonans grieving the no-show of Daily Kos at the Nutroots conference.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 5:19:21 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Could Warren Buffet's oil trains be considered mobile Jihadist weapons of mass distruction?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run Liz Run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqCFxg2ez44


5 posted on 07/19/2014 5:19:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s the best I have seen “Faux-cahontas” look!


6 posted on 07/19/2014 5:19:45 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Its funny because they’re overrun by rightwingers trolling them.


7 posted on 07/19/2014 5:21:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: dynachrome

I heard she got a paper cut and lost the three drops of Native American blood.


8 posted on 07/19/2014 5:25:06 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Elizabeth Warren....."I got mine"....

Indeed she does. Net worth north of $15M.

9 posted on 07/19/2014 5:29:17 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can’t see a big difference between them, but to the democrats, Hillary is considered the McCain or Linda Graham of the party. Elizabeth Warren is a true believer.


10 posted on 07/19/2014 5:30:09 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: cripplecreek

I made it about half way through. Sounds like it was made in a coffee shop full of stoned hippies.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 5:30:20 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: cripplecreek

Just like FR is overrun by leftists trolling us? I don’t think anybody should troll anybody. Trolling means pretending to be a true believer who is purer and more perfect than any of the others, and thus can make extreme statements that look as if they are sympathetic but are designed to stir up or draw out dissent, destroy a particular person, or lure out the more gullible to reveal themselves. But trolling happens, and posters just need to be aware of it.

I don’t think Warren will be their candidate because, even leaving aside her fantasy Indian heritage and a quasi-fantasy degree (not off a matchbook cover, because she was close to earning but didn’t) and other lies, she’s an extremely unpleasant, haranguing and shrill speaker and doesn’t even pretend to care about anybody except the radical leftwing of her party. She sounds like a baby female Stalin.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 5:41:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Nobody is trying to hide among them, this is done openly with great glee.


13 posted on 07/19/2014 5:43:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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FReepers! Let's go!
Every donation counts!



14 posted on 07/19/2014 5:44:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“we all do better when we work together and invest in building a future… not just for some of our kids, but for all of our kids.” …

Approaching 18 trillion in debt for the children....welcome to the future.

15 posted on 07/19/2014 5:54:39 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did she actually show up in that getup?


16 posted on 07/19/2014 5:56:31 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
That's a humorous photoshop.
17 posted on 07/19/2014 5:57:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, that’s true. Sometimes I feel they’re sitting out there chuckling and high-fiving each other when the gullible bite.


18 posted on 07/19/2014 6:23:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: taterjay
"The Dems know in their heart it is time to move past Hillary."

I'm not convinced. In the magazine section at my grocery check-out line, they are featuring a Time magazine special issue devoted to Hillary.
19 posted on 07/19/2014 6:57:02 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Oh, and we believe that corporations are not people

I wonder how many leftist outfits are set up as corporations?

20 posted on 07/19/2014 7:00:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: livius

Stalin was much too nice and moderate for her.


21 posted on 07/19/2014 7:01:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I agree. She scares the socks off me (she’s a disciple of Alinsky) and, while Obama is vicious and has accomplished a lot of the plan, he’s not very bright and maybe timed too much as a teenager, so he’s relying in oer people to do the actual work and tell him what to do.

But Fauxcahontas is smarter than he is, very connected with the super radical left, and knows how to use the system. She’s younger than Hillary and, other than her constant lies, which seem to be forgiven because she’s a Dem, doesn’t have much of a history.

I still think Moochelle is going to put her name out there, however, and in that case it will go to Moochelle. Otherwise, Warren will be their candidate.Cuomo might contest her but, believe it or not, many of the Dems consider him “conservative.”


22 posted on 07/20/2014 1:26:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

that would be “toked” too much...


23 posted on 07/20/2014 1:26:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

I think it’s likely Mooch runs for Senate from Illinois in 2016. At least that’s the rumor. She’s be a lock to win and positioned for a POTUS run 8 yrs later.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 1:27:54 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: livius

bump

I agree with that assessment


25 posted on 07/20/2014 1:41:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nascarnation; GeronL

Very possible that the Mooch will run for Senator, but I honestly think she wants to skip even that modest intermediate step and capitalize on her “celebrityhood” right now, before people have time to look at her objectively. Not that Dem Senators are ever examined objectively, of course...but I really think she feels she’s too important to bother with anything but the big kahuna.

I guess we’ll see, something that is a truly scary thought, because as usual the GOP will present somebody designed to lose against even the worst Dem candidate in the universe.


26 posted on 07/20/2014 4:57:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

The Gila monster for President?

Oh heck no


27 posted on 07/20/2014 4:58:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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