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Push is on for Sarah Palin-led Third Party to go on 'warpath'
The Chicago Sun-Times' Politics Early & Often ^ | August 5, 2014 | Chad Merda

Posted on 08/05/2014 8:53:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Could Sarah Palin revive her political career through an ultra-conservative third party? If one former California State assemblyman has his way, yes.

In an op-ed published on conservative Christian site Barbwire, activist Steve Baldwin says the GOP establishment just isn't cutting it.

And he thinks Sarah Palin is his woman to change that.

"We don’t want the GOP to pursue a 'socialism-lite' agenda. We want them to go on the warpath and do whatever it takes to stop the destruction of our constitutional Republic," Baldwin wrote. "It has become increasingly clear that the GOP leadership will do everything in its power to prevent the party from being influenced in any way by the Tea Party. I have given up on the GOP and am simply not sure it can ever be reformed."

He goes on to lay out a plan for a new Third Party that "will do to the GOP what the GOP did to the Whig Party 150 years ago: it will replace the GOP as the main party contesting the Democrat Party."

But Baldwin doesn't take all the credit for such a plan.

"I would never have said this a few years ago, but it may be time to create a conservative Third Party," Baldwin wrote. "Sarah Palin, among others, has suggested doing just this. But how do we do form a new Third Party without handing the Democrats many electoral victories for years to come?"

Is creating a successful Third Party a longshot? You betcha.

But Baldwin says that long shot would be a lot shorter if they had Palin at the helm.

"We would also need a stable of respected national conservative leaders such as Sarah Palin and others to lead the charge on such an effort," Baldwin wrote.

Baldwin apparently missed the memo that indicated Americans want Sarah Palin to stop talking.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: gop; palin; teaparty; thirdparty

1 posted on 08/05/2014 8:53:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Push is on to split Republican voters as it’s the only way Dems can possibly win now.


2 posted on 08/05/2014 8:58:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Could Sarah Palin revive her political career through an ultra-conservative third party?"

No bias there, no, sir. Of course, when the two main parties are Communist-Fascist-Degenerate (Dem) and Socialist-Crony Capitalist (GOP), anything mainstream would be "ultra right" to the moonbats.

3 posted on 08/05/2014 8:59:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"We don’t want the GOP to pursue a 'socialism-lite' agenda. We want them to go on the warpath and do whatever it takes to stop the destruction of our constitutional Republic," Baldwin wrote.

I don't know the guy, but what he said right there, sure speaks for me. I want to see the Republicans suit up for battle.

4 posted on 08/05/2014 8:59:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been saying for some time that if she did do this that 10 million would follow immediately, guaranteed. Another 20 million within three months willing to do what it takes to make Sarah Commander-in-Chief.

It’s time.


5 posted on 08/05/2014 9:00:18 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: TigerClaws

If the GOPe nominated another crappy RINO, then its the Freedom Party for me


6 posted on 08/05/2014 9:01:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Half the people here disagree with us and just want an (R) after a person’s name. That’ll solve EVERYTHING!!


7 posted on 08/05/2014 9:01:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to discuss this is November 5th.


8 posted on 08/05/2014 9:04:45 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah is too smart for this BS.

I think ISOLATED cases can be made to punish certain liberal Republicans where it won’t have huge national implications.

However? If we can’t win in Republican primaries, how on Earth are we going to win in a General Election when all the Commies are voting too?


9 posted on 08/05/2014 9:06:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: TigerClaws
Republican voters are not necessarily the same as conservative voters.

The Republican Party has already decided to shun (those embarrassing) conservatives in favor of a ‘bigger tent’. Nobody’s more condescending to red-blooded Americans that the GOPe.

It's Rove, Priebus, Rollins, et. al., who you should be pointing the finger at, not conservatives.

10 posted on 08/05/2014 9:09:19 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: TigerClaws
Sometimes it is more about philosophy, and less about party and politics.

Plus or minus a few years, both parties have promoted statism for the last 100yrs. Time for a change.

11 posted on 08/05/2014 9:10:18 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not exactly. Sarah, keep doing what you are doing. When the Lame Stream “Media” continues to have a coronary every time you say anything, you know it is true. go Sarah.


12 posted on 08/05/2014 9:17:37 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: WXRGina

barbwire ping


13 posted on 08/05/2014 9:17:51 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: TigerClaws

We have needed this for some time—Think UKIP they spilt the vote. Break the party into Rino vs Tea Party BUT—before the election have the Tea Party endorse those RINOs they can work with—unify and cream the Democrat/Progressives. The GOP will be slowly pulled to the right.


14 posted on 08/05/2014 9:20:59 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Kansas58

It’s called voting. How many people do not vote? How many people stayed home last election? How about a Free Republic poll?


15 posted on 08/05/2014 9:21:00 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: TigerClaws

Not true at all. Dems already have us. They outnumber us. Only gerrymandering saved the House for us. And the only think that MAY give the GOP the Senate in Nov are all the seats in Red States the Dims have to defend. The Dims don’t need to worry about winning again. Ever. WE do. So it’s now or never for a Third Party. The GOP is dead. Demographics. It’s only a matter of time.


16 posted on 08/05/2014 9:22:54 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Fungi

I agree. As much as I’d like to see her in a government position of leadership, too many of our own people would sabotage and hamper her efforts. Let her develop that cable station. She and her family have been through all manner of wringers as it is. Sometimes one follows via the route of least resistance.


17 posted on 08/05/2014 9:24:55 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Kansas58
I think ISOLATED cases can be made to punish certain liberal Republicans where it won’t have huge national implications.

It's more than isolated cases.

If we can’t win in Republican primaries, how on Earth are we going to win in a General Election when all the Commies are voting too?

I used to ask that same question too. Not anymore. Did you follow what happened in Mississippi?

18 posted on 08/05/2014 9:29:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Kansas58

Let’s see! How many different parties are there?

Democratic Party
Republican Party
Libertarian (3rd. Largest Party in the U.S.)
Conservative Party USA
Green Party

At this point the Libertarian Party doesn’t stand a chance. Judge Napolitano, Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Glenn Beck are prominent members but it is still a fringe group. They are not mainstream enough. They need more Public Relations exposure. Unfortunately there is not time to sell the Libertarian Party to the voters. It would require a massive shift and funding.

http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004483


19 posted on 08/05/2014 9:29:55 PM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A solid third party might find success by appealing to the ‘southern’/’bluedog’/’Reagan’ Democrats and Tea Party types.

Those Democrats have also been sidelined by the liberal take-over of the Democratic Party.

Too many third-party formations, however, tend to be single issue or personality oriented ventures that appeal to a small segment.

Even by winning in states, the general GOP seems to be unable to change its leadership from veering leftward. The GOP leadership seems to be hell-bent on following the liberal Dems over the cliff.


20 posted on 08/05/2014 9:32:03 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

This is 3 years old!

Voters leaving Republican, Democratic parties in droves
By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY

Updated 12/22/2011 8:40 PM

•WASHINGTON – More than 2.5 million voters have left the Democratic and Republican parties since the 2008 elections, while the number of independent voters continues to grow.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-12-22/voters-political-parties/52171688/1


21 posted on 08/05/2014 9:35:09 PM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: lee martell

Thank you.


22 posted on 08/05/2014 9:37:07 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: FreeReign

So you intend to improve on human nature?
You intend to form a party that is immune to pride and anger and self interest and stupidity and disloyalty?

Good luck with that!

Any new Party will consist of human beings with the same failings at the current GOP.


23 posted on 08/05/2014 9:46:47 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

You mean like in Mississippi? Oh, wait...


24 posted on 08/05/2014 9:47:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kansas58

“However? If we can’t win in Republican primaries, how on Earth are we going to win in a General Election when all the Commies are voting too?”

Which brings me to the story of the insanely angry person, full of resentment, full of victimhood, who decides to end it all with suicide.

“I’ll show them,” he threatens, and pulls the trigger.


25 posted on 08/05/2014 9:54:18 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: huldah1776
It’s called voting. How many people do not vote? How many people stayed home last election? How about a Free Republic poll?

Vote for what? Who? The Romney campaign crapped on Sarah Palin, the Tea Party and evangelical Christians. That was the most stupid thing they could have done, diss the very people who make up the GOTV, grass roots, boots on the ground conservatives. It's no wonder he lost. I'm sorry but the current Republican party is DEAD!

26 posted on 08/05/2014 9:55:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West '16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Sarah was Commander and Chief, even at 65 years of age I would consider going back to the Navy. The have done away my rate of Radioman and probably would not pass the physical but for Sarah, I would give her the old John Paul Jones try!


27 posted on 08/05/2014 10:52:01 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If not now then when? Most of us *gopes and donkeys* have given great thought as to whom will get our vote in 2 years. As an oath has been taken to never vote for the ass, and due to the fact the gope has behaved like an ass, another oath taken to vote for gope ONLY if a candidate earns the vote by standing for the same values held dear to the heart.

Sarah would be the one to spearhead such a Conservative Party. With Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert, Tim Scott, Alabama’s Sessions, Gov Walker, Dr. Carson, to name just a few. There are countless more with big names and not so big names, but they are out there. Steve Baldwin, brother of Alec, has certainly stated where he would land. If not now, then when? This might be the only opportunity we have other than shouting the buck stops here, and take matters into our own hands in a reenactment of the American Revolution. Both parties have voters who are searching for something different No dynasties, no incumbents. New faces and new beginnings.

Talk is the beginning. The second step would be commitment and the faith in ourselves to be so bold.

Conservatives did lose to incumbents this round of primaries, but this was only the beginning. Conservatives won a few in ousting out the gope/asses This might be the last chance we have to save our Nation.

The only alternative would be to dig a hole, jump in, and cover ourselves for the next few eons only peeking out to see the current state of affairs. And frankly, this entity would not enjoy living this way. As Mr. Henry would say “Give me liberty or give me death.”

By the way, the gope party is dead. They shot themselves in the state of Mississippi.


28 posted on 08/05/2014 11:35:36 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Canada did it. The old Progressive Conservative party which was very similar to today’s GOP and I think was in existence about as long as Canada itself was wiped out and replaced (technically merged) by a much more conservative one.

It took time though.


29 posted on 08/06/2014 1:17:28 AM PDT by expat1000 ("If you're explaining, you're losing." Ronald Reagan)
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To: TigerClaws
Push is on to split Republican voters as it’s the only way Dems can possibly win now.

I'm not a republican. Have not been for years and years. That's the way it's been with many Freepers, so it's not a real change.

30 posted on 08/06/2014 5:27:45 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No need to have an “ultra-conservative” third party. Simply being mainstream conservative will do.


31 posted on 08/06/2014 5:55:55 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: TigerClaws

“Push is on to split Republican voters as it’s the only way Dems can possibly win now.”

And what is the point of winning with Republicans?.....Boehner, McConnell ect.....You have had one beer too many.....What the heck will they do then that they couldn’t do now?....Sorry, the whole lot of Rino’s in Washington could fight now, but it will not happen...The dems have the useful idiots and voter fraud with 110% all over the country voting regardless of who runs against them.....


32 posted on 08/06/2014 5:57:55 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: MichaelCorleone; 2ndDivisionVet
I’ve been saying for some time that if she did do this that 10 million would follow immediately, guaranteed. Another 20 million within three months willing to do what it takes to make Sarah Commander-in-Chief.

There is one factor that is often overlooked when people try to calculate how a genuinely viable third party that looked to take away significant numbers of voters from the GOP would effect the dynamics of elections.

That factor is the millions of conservative, independent voters who have basically "dropped out, tuned out" from the electoral process altogether because of their despair the GOP ever amounting anything, etc. One only has to look at the pattern in growth of total voters in the presidential elections to see that there are increasing numbers of "missing" voters, who should have been there to match population growth, but yet who are not.

Provide those people with a viable alternative and get them engaged again, and you can have a viable third party that really does have a shot at replacing the GOP.

33 posted on 08/06/2014 6:00:30 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: MichaelCorleone

A FReeper on another, recent thread made an interesting categorization — the Republican left and the Republican right.

Define each...with the Roves, Prebius’, McRomney’s, etc, being the left and the Ted Cruz’ being the right.

They can all represent the party, but with a true distinction....nothing to hide behind at campaign - or legislation vote time.


34 posted on 08/06/2014 6:05:42 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: upsdriver

Vote for anyone who is the best of the bunch. Reagan is dead, y’all.


35 posted on 08/06/2014 6:13:36 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: MichaelCorleone

“I’ve been saying for some time that if she did do this that 10 million would follow immediately, guaranteed.... Another 20 million within three months willing to do what it takes to make Sarah Commander-in-Chief....It’s time.”

I think so...The majority of this country is still made up of Americans who love their country and understand what the Republic stands for in spite of what the media prints......They have no representation from either party....Their country is being invaded by illegals with no resistance from current leadership......A third party that represents the Constitution and what it means regarding the Republic could ignite something in the heart of this country that could possibly even overcome the voter fraud that has become in your face with not even one elected official rocking the boat over it......I think Palin could possibly even eclipse her 2008’ popularity on the campaign trail being free of the garbage she had as handlers at that time....


36 posted on 08/06/2014 6:15:06 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: MichaelCorleone
Challenged by 15 million dead Dem voters.
37 posted on 08/06/2014 6:26:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: selfdefense; All
I think so...The majority of this country is still made up of Americans who love their country and understand what the Republic stands for in spite of what the media prints......They have no representation from either party....Their country is being invaded by illegals with no resistance from current leadership......A third party that represents the Constitution and what it means regarding the Republic could ignite something in the heart of this country that could possibly even overcome the voter fraud that has become in your face with not even one elected official rocking the boat over it......I think Palin could possibly even eclipse her 2008’ popularity on the campaign trail being free of the garbage she had as handlers at that time....

Exactly. The reason we only have 30-50% voter participation isn't just because of pothead slackers and the like.

38 posted on 08/06/2014 6:30:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: huldah1776

“Reagan is dead, y’all.”

So is Ted Kennedy. So what? You need a new transmission, sister.


39 posted on 08/06/2014 3:14:37 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Shouldn’t people vote for the best candidate instead of not voting? Just heard too many here say they didn’t vote and America now has the worst administration in its history and the Constitution is an historical document without any power. Not that the Constitution protects us from tyranny. Seems kind of lame in that regards.


40 posted on 08/06/2014 10:20:15 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
There are differing opinions on that, but my opinion is that people really should cast a ballot, even if it's only a write-in vote.

I myself always vote.

On the other hand millions sit out elections because they feel they're not represented regardless of who wins. Or they're tired of spending time and money for a candidate they believe in, only to be betrayed once again. It is hard for me to critize these Americans - they're certainly justified in feeling this way and they also have a right not to vote.

41 posted on 08/06/2014 10:50:30 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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