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Republicans Are Trying To Trick The American People Into Supporting Another Iraq War (Huh?)
PoliticusUSA - Real Liberal Politics ^ | August 11, 2014 | Rmuse

Posted on 08/11/2014 8:26:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is an idiom, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me,” or as George W. Bush said, “fool me once…you fooled me, can’t get fooled again.” However one puts it, the proverbial definition is that after being tricked once, one should be very wary so a person cannot trick one again. Republican warmongers certainly understand they fooled Americans in 2003 and lied through their teeth to take the country to war against a sovereign nation with no connection to al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, or the terror attacks on 911. Now, they are back again lying, revising history, and attacking President Obama to trick the American people into supporting another war in Iraq because besides giving money to corporations, there is nothing Republicans love more than war; particularly against Muslims.

Over the past two days, and on the Sunday political programs, the dependable warmongers attacked the President and blamed him for everything from George W. Bush’s signing a Status of Forces agreement that removed American combat troops from Iraq, to not having a strategy to govern a democratically-elected sovereign Iraq, to failing to arm the very people wreaking havoc in Syria and Iraq. Their goal, of course, is another war in Iraq and it reveals an important fallacy John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and other Republicans fail miserably to understand; Iraq is not an American state, or territory, and this nation has no right to unilaterally insert its military into any nation’s religious war regardless this country is responsible for the current situation in Iraq. It is important to reiterate that both Iraq and Syria were stable nations prior to Republican warmongers fooled Americans into supporting the invasion of Iraq.

What is, in one sense, stunning is that the warmongers are repeating the same lies they used to convince Americans this country’s peace and security is dependent on invading Iraq. Or, as George W. Bush put it, Americans have to kill Muslims because “they hate us for our freedoms.” Perennial warmonger Lindsey Graham even went so far as to warn that without a robust military engagement in Iraq, “I think of an American city in flames because of the terrorist ability to operate in Syria and Iraq.” As reported here yesterday, to incite support for invading Iraq, Condoleezza Rice said in 2002 that “there will always be some uncertainty” about Iraq, but “We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” The Bush warmongers fooled Americans once, and due to their overwhelming success at scaring Americans into supporting a war in Iraq, they are using the same tactics.

Then there is “I never saw a nation America should not invade,” John McCain, who railed on the President for not arming and assisting the Syrian rebels, many of whom are charter members of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) that he met with in Syria and are now terrorizing both Syria and Iraq. McCain also blatantly lied and accused the President of failing to leave a residual military force in Iraq in spite of the agreement George W. Bush signed in December 2008 (Status of Forces Agreement) with Iraq to withdraw all American combat forces by 2011. McCain cannot comprehend that Iraq is a sovereign nation, and after laying waste to the country and creating the conditions that led to the current situation, Iraq told America to get out; something McCain cannot and will not accept.

Even former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined McCain and claimed that the President’s failure to build up Syrian rebels battling President Bashar al-Assad “left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.” One is reticent to contradict Mrs. Clinton, but even she knows a fair number of the Syrian rebels battling al-Assad are members of ISIS wreaking havoc in Syria and Iraq. If Clinton were not so anxious to display her war bona fides, she may remember President Obama saying that without knowing who the rebels were, or who they were aligned with, it was not prudent to “build them up” with American arms. However, when one aspires to the White House, it is important to appear “manly,” beat war drums, and forget voting for the invasion of Iraq that created the conditions in Syria, and now Iraq.

America has been at war with Muslims now for nearly thirteen years, and as President Obama said before the Iraq war, “Invading Iraq will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida.” As George W. Bush said, “Mission Accomplished.” America’s invasion of Iraq did encourage “the worst impulses of the Arab world and did strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida” that joined disenfranchised Iraqi Sunnis to create the conditions in Syria and Iraq. Conditions that Republican warmongers are rabid to perpetuate with a serious escalation of hostilities borne of America’s military and lies from Republicans.

Americans are weary of war, and oddly, the warmongers who cannot bring it upon themselves to spend one penny for this country, or Veterans, lust to spend billions on another costly war in Iraq; and they are using the same fear-mongering rhetoric they did to garner support for the last Iraq war. Including, by the way, John McCain claiming America cannot possibly wait for an Iraqi political solution that includes getting rid of Iraqi President Maliki. About the only thing McCain did not say was that America should invade Iraq for regime change.

The media has even repeated their failures leading up to the Iraq invasion by giving the warmongers a national forum to reiterate the same talking points that led to the war in Iraq. One would hope Americans have enough longterm memory capabilities to remember it was only eleven years ago that the same warmongers were using the same talking points and fear mongering to incite the nation to war in 2003, but Americans reveal time and again that they are likely to support failed policies over and over again in hopes of a different outcome. It is Albert Einstein’s notorious definition of insanity, and if any American truly believes another Iraq war will produce any different results than the last one, they are insane; or they just like the idea of American at war.

America at war is the real drive behind warmongers like McCain and Graham whose first response to any sovereign nation’s internal crises is involving America’s fighting men and women in wars. They will do anything to frighten Americans into sending their friends and families to kill Muslims regardless the long term cost in lives and resources, and they are using the same rhetoric that led to the current situation. One wonders if their ultimate goal is creating a feedback loop of war in Iraq because that is their only solution to a problem without a solution; a war among rival religious factions that did not exist warmongers lied this country into invading Iraq.

TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush; condoleezzarice; iraq; isis; kurdistan; lindseygraham; mccain; mullahfan; obama; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; yazidi; yazidis
1 posted on 08/11/2014 8:26:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 08/11/2014 8:29:41 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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Unlike ignorant liberals, I am against genocide.

Liberals that approve of Christians or other groups being slaughtered are no better than NAZIs.

3 posted on 08/11/2014 8:30:36 PM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just bizarre.

4 posted on 08/11/2014 8:30:46 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Hillary is now a Republican?

5 posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:27 PM PDT by DManA
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Yep, just like McCain.

6 posted on 08/11/2014 8:34:45 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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7 posted on 08/11/2014 8:35:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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waiting for barrty to defend his fellow christians in these muslim jihadi countries.


8 posted on 08/11/2014 8:39:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Finding the correct dosage of a psychotropic drug can be critical to achieving a beneficial response.

9 posted on 08/11/2014 8:41:04 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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If only John Boehner thought the Repubes had as much power as this author does. What the....?

10 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:36 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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Not really been paying attention but was it pointed out
that the Aircraft in the attacks were launched from the USS GHW BUSH?

Let BO/OBOZO find a way to involve Bush in his war that isn’t a war brought on in part by the withdrawal of troops that he didn’t withdraw in a war he didn’t want but escalated so he could withdraw?

Makes as much sense as running up the National Debt in an attempt to balance the budget.

Like a pol once remarked - “you can’t tax your way out of debt”

To bad NONE of the pols really believe that line.

11 posted on 08/11/2014 8:44:49 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)a GUN is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one-probably never need one again.)
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> Comments?

Off the cuff, I'd say "unmedicated schizoaffective disorder." Of course, that's just an educated guess, not a diagnosis.

12 posted on 08/11/2014 9:00:14 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (First Third-World Despotism. Overthrow Obama.)
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Yes I have a comment:

“Liberalism is a mental disorder”

They all seem to have selective amnesia too...

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
—President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
—President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
—Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
—Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
— Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
— Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

“There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
— Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.”
— Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
— Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
— Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...”
— Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
— Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do”
— Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
— Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real...”
— Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

13 posted on 08/11/2014 9:12:48 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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The stupid and the evil will have to be nuked.
May as well, since I am such a war monger.
This is my official Joe nobody opinion.
We need to nuke what Obama has caused to happen.

14 posted on 08/11/2014 9:56:10 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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Actually by my count Islam has been at war with us
since the fall of the Shah or am I wrong?

Our problem is we are still not at war with Islam.

15 posted on 08/11/2014 10:01:04 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Big Bro’ may have vanquished the evil right’s Emmanual Goldstein: George W. Bush—but Bush always manages to rise up, Phoenix-like, after every smashing defeat in order to stir up more debbiltry with which the white devils plague St. Barry.

16 posted on 08/11/2014 10:01:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tet68
Actually by my count Islam has been at war with us since the fall of the Shah or am I wrong?

Actually, Islam has been at war with the west ever since the Battle of Tours in 732.

Off and on, Islam vs the West has been a 1400 years war.

17 posted on 08/11/2014 10:19:20 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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Everybody has a right to their own opinions. Nobody has a right to their own facts.


18 posted on 08/11/2014 11:29:00 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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Where to start? First off, Democrats supported Iraq before they opposed it.

Secondly, there is enough literature out there now that no one should be ignorant to the fact that Saddam met with Al Queda leaders and helped organize a guerrilla war lead by foreign Muslim fanatics once his regime was toppled.

19 posted on 08/26/2014 9:11:26 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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