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Rand Paul, Ted Cruz weigh in on Ferguson
The Politico ^ | August 14, 2014 | Burgess Everett, congressional reporter

Posted on 08/14/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are weighing in on the violence in Ferguson, Missouri, staking out ground on a racially charged issue ahead of their possible 2016 presidential bids.

In a highly personal Time op-ed, Paul (R-Ky.) bluntly connected race to the treatment of African-Americans who have gathered in Ferguson since police killed teenager Michael Brown. Paul said that when he was young, he might have “smarted off” but he “wouldn’t have expected to be shot.”

“Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them,” Paul wrote. “This is part of the anguish we are seeing in the tragic events outside of St. Louis, Missouri. It is what the citizens of Ferguson feel when there is an unfortunate and heartbreaking shooting like the incident with Michael Brown.”

Paul, who has tried to broaden the GOP’s appeal to African-Americans, also joined Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and other leading Democrats in calling for the demilitarization of police forces in Ferguson, who have appeared heavily armed and used tear gas to disperse heated protests.

“There is a legitimate role for the police to keep the peace, but there should be a difference between a police response and a military response. The images and scenes we continue to see in Ferguson resemble war more than traditional police action,” Paul wrote. “Washington has incentivized the militarization of local police precincts by using federal dollars to help municipal governments build what are essentially small armies.”

Cruz was more measured than Paul, calling the situation “tragic” and chastising police for arresting two reporters covering the city’s tension. The Texas Republican called for an end to the “unrest” in the city and urged demonstrators to reject violence.

“Together, we should all mourn the loss of life in Ferguson, Missouri, and work to keep our communities safe and free. Police officers risk their lives every day to keep us safe, and any time a young man loses his life in a confrontation with law enforcement, it is tragic,” Cruz said in a Facebook statement. “Civil liberties must be protected, but violence is not the answer. Once the unrest is brought to an end, we should examine carefully what happened to ensure that justice is served.”

Both Paul and Cruz lean libertarian on issues like criminal justice reform and government surveillance — and each found examples in Ferguson of government overreach in both areas.

Cruz criticized the detention of reporters Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Huffington Post reporter Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post on Wednesday. The two journalists were arrested at a McDonald’s in Ferguson on Wednesday night in a high-profile fashion that has sparked heated reactions toward the police and the news media.

“Reporters should never be detained — a free press is too important — simply for doing their jobs,” Cruz said.

And through the lens of Ferguson, Paul said the civil rights and law enforcement communities’ posture towards U.S. citizens has now reached a “near-crisis point.”

“When you couple this militarization of law enforcement with an erosion of civil liberties and due process that allows the police to become judge and jury—national security letters, no-knock searches, broad general warrants, pre-conviction forfeiture—we begin to have a very serious problem on our hands,” Paul said.


TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: blacks; ferguson; missouri; randpaul; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 08/14/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Both are correct. based on the facts so far, I know my Office would be seriously considering manslaughter/murder charges for the Officer.

Know this. One day those militarized police are coming after you.


2 posted on 08/14/2014 4:25:15 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Take away the ninja outfits, get rid of the SWAT boys who can’t wait to play with their military toys, and do not allow any ex-military personnel to join the police force until they’ve been successfully integrated into civilian life for ten years.


3 posted on 08/14/2014 4:34:42 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: RIghtwardHo
...it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them. -- Rand Paul

Reason 2,892,467 why Rand Paul is unfit to be even considered as President. He's channelling the racist diatribes of Sharpton, Jackson and the race-baiters of the NAACP. LEO go out of their way to handle blacks with kid gloves. The reality is that white Christian Conservatives are in the crosshairs of obama's militarized police forces.

4 posted on 08/14/2014 4:35:03 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand Paul is a pandering politician. Ted Cruz is a patriot.


5 posted on 08/14/2014 4:36:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I do know that about the militarized police. Unfortunately it is what America is becoming.


6 posted on 08/14/2014 4:36:17 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan! (Mrs. Yellowdoghunter))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them,” Paul wrote.

This is rank BS. Blacks get away with stuff that whites are routinely shot for pulling. Say what you will about Ron, but he never spouted this kind of pandering garbage.

7 posted on 08/14/2014 4:36:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: trisham

And I will raise at least a million dollars for him, should he run. I invite others here to assist me.


8 posted on 08/14/2014 4:37:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"And through the lens of Ferguson, Paul said the civil rights and law enforcement communities’ posture towards U.S. citizens has now reached a “near-crisis point.” "

Thus it already is between the peeps and the IRS, EPA, BATFE, et. al.

9 posted on 08/14/2014 4:37:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RIghtwardHo

I really hope they come after you. That would make my day.


10 posted on 08/14/2014 4:38:10 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will definitely contribute, although I sometimes worry that’s the kiss of death.


11 posted on 08/14/2014 4:38:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not me. Wouldn’t give him a dime. He’s a punk.


12 posted on 08/14/2014 4:39:01 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Zhang Fei

He thinks he’s going to be the candidate that pulls a significant portion of black people back to the Republican party. Jack Kemp 2.0 or some such.


13 posted on 08/14/2014 4:39:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: beandog

Ted Cruz is a punk? Please explain.


14 posted on 08/14/2014 4:39:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait, are we talking about Paul or Cruz. I’m getting confused. Cruz I would support, Paul’s a punk.


15 posted on 08/14/2014 4:40:01 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: trisham

Bingo


16 posted on 08/14/2014 4:40:35 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Both of these guys are talking before they know the facts. The young man did far more than “smart off”. According to some conservative radio hosts, the reporters were occupying McDonald’s, taking up tables, setting up a command headquarters, and interfering with the operation of the restaurant. They were asked to leave and didn’t. The cops were called to remove them from private property.

What would you do if you were trying to run a business under such circumstances? McDonald’s may be a large corporation, but these are small franchises that run on a tight profit margin. The businesses in that town are already suffering mega-losses, much of which will not be covered by insurance on account of clauses that exempt damage from insurrection, riot, mob action.

Both Paul and Cruz are making mistakes. In addition, the Obama administration and people like McCaskill are using this to divide conservatives. Obama is the one who militarized the police and most government agencies. McCaskill is his right-hand woman, so it’s rather hypocritical of her to now come out against it. But—never let a good crisis go to waste. Don’t be fooled. WAIT for the investigation and the truth.


17 posted on 08/14/2014 4:40:56 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry about that. Having a stressful day and the last name I read was Paul’s so that’s the name that stuck with me when I read your post. I think I need to go to bed. :)


18 posted on 08/14/2014 4:41:27 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thanks, Catherine. :)


19 posted on 08/14/2014 4:41:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: beandog

I would raise money for Rand to go home, resign, pack up his things and move to Argentina with his sire. That’s about it.


20 posted on 08/14/2014 4:42:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system"

Wonder if Rand has any idea why that's the case?

21 posted on 08/14/2014 4:43:33 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: RIghtwardHo

bull. the kid did something, and got shot.


22 posted on 08/14/2014 4:43:35 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Zhang Fei

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-michael-brown-was-a-local-gangster-seen-flashing-gang-signs/#disqus_thread

Consider.


23 posted on 08/14/2014 4:43:49 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paul appears to have taken sides without knowing what, exactly, happened. He is becoming an expert panderer.

Cruz' response limits judgment to only those things known to have happened (e.g., reporters arrested) and otherwise rightly asks for restraint...until we know what actually happened.

Which is the more presidential?

24 posted on 08/14/2014 4:44:16 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Greenperson; RIghtwardHo

Did you notice, though, that it wasn’t Ted Cruz who buddied up with McCaskill? And who says the investigation, run by Eric Holder, will come within miles of the truth?


25 posted on 08/14/2014 4:44:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s an egotist like his father. He’ll never leave.


26 posted on 08/14/2014 4:46:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: okie01

See my #8.


27 posted on 08/14/2014 4:47:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could go for that.


28 posted on 08/14/2014 4:48:15 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them,”

How many times in the past 50 years have "WHITE" people in America attempted to redress their grievances against THE STATE by rioting, looting, burning, burgling and robbing PRIVATE PROPERTY?

How many times in the past 50 years have "BLACK" people in America attempted to redress their grievances against THE STATE by rioting, looting, burning, burgling and robbing PRIVATE PROPERTY?

29 posted on 08/14/2014 4:49:40 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Dr. Rand,

Back in the Jurassic, when you were a youth, you would not have been shot for mouthing off to a cop. However, my good Doctor, had you wrestled with a cop for his gun, (which is alleged by some to have occurred) you damn well would have been shot.

So until we get some straight stories here, why don't you and Barry just STFU. Mp

30 posted on 08/14/2014 4:49:45 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Paul accepts the narrative of the Left.

As such he cannot be the man to lead us out of the hash our society currently finds itself in, a bloody mess of the Left's making.

31 posted on 08/14/2014 4:51:59 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paul said that when he was young, he might have “smarted off” but he “wouldn’t have expected to be shot.”

Randy is "acting stupidly." Again.

32 posted on 08/14/2014 4:55:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: skeeter

Completely agree.

Look at him, he’s even teaming up with leftists to get his PC face front and center.


33 posted on 08/14/2014 4:55:57 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Rand Paul was born in 1963. You may be thinking of Ron Paul. Ron was born in 1935.


34 posted on 08/14/2014 4:58:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Know this. One day those militarized police are coming after you.

Yes. You're right in stating a militarized police force will target patriots who stand against tyranny. However, Ferguson is not the model of such a conflict. If the officer had been black and the thug a white kid? This is just a black thing going on.

35 posted on 08/14/2014 4:59:07 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Greenperson

Have any cell phone videos showed up yet? Why not? Seems everyone wants to video contacts with the law. Perhaps the videos show the police making a right move.


36 posted on 08/14/2014 5:07:52 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: trisham
Rand Paul was born in 1963.

In that case, I have boots older than that wise-aSS kid. No wonder he is making such stupid remarks.

37 posted on 08/14/2014 5:15:59 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

LOL! I hear you.


38 posted on 08/14/2014 5:16:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand the Panderer


39 posted on 08/14/2014 5:30:51 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

He even seems oblivious to the left/media cabal’s true intention in this Fergeson situation, ginning up the black vote in order to save the senate in November.


40 posted on 08/14/2014 5:32:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; MinuteGal

This is all such a pile of crap. No one is being honest here. Rand Paul is now constantly kissing up to the black community, constantly. Blacks will still vote 90 percent plus for the Dems, and Rand will get nothing for his efforts. And Cruz is looking for some way to split the baby too. He’s fence sitting. Sounds like he’s saying wait for the outcome of the investigation, but, by the way the 2 reporters shouldn’t have been arrested (both totally lib reporters from the Huffington Post and the Washington Post, and a couple of liars about what went down in McDonald’s and why they were hauled off to the klink). So both Paul and Cruz make me sick here. Stop trying to protect Cruz. He’s been hanging around with the drama queen Glenn Beck at the border while kissing up to the “children” illegal aliens, and now this. He’s lost a lot of brownie points with me.

Meanwhile, in case some of you haven’t figured it out, these demonstrations in Ferguson are being egged on by the Obama Admin and his thug regime, while aided and abetted by Al Sharpton and the New Black Panthers to keep the rioting going. All in order to gin up the black base, whipping them into a frenzy so that they will all come out and vote in the November mid-term elections in a rage.

This “incident” couldn’t have come at a better time, and a variety of Dems (today it was that stupid Dem Congressman John Lewis, civil rights agitator) trying to nationalize this, hoping for riots throughout the fruited plain, hopefully in all the major big cities. Got to get that low information voter out to the polls in November.

If you look at the pics of the dead perp, he may have been 18 (of course he is being portrayed as but a child) but he was huge in size. A very very big “child”. And one of the black witnesses to the incident said the white cop was not very big, on the more slender size. I’ll tell you what happened (my female intuition here). This brute got in the squad car with the cop and started beating on him, while trying to get his gun. After all it was going to be the cop or him once he started slugging the cop. The die was cast. By the way, the cop went to the hospital with face wounds. That’s why there was one shot in the squad car, fired by one of them, undoubtedly the cop. Then the perp got out of the car to hightail it out of there, and the cop fired to kill him (as trained to do). After all this punk was trying to kill him.

I hope the various talking heads, both on TV and conservative talk radio, figure this out and that they all stop equivocating. I can’t stand the PC anymore. Just can’ stand it.


41 posted on 08/14/2014 5:36:01 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: txrefugee; 2ndDivisionVet
"do not allow any ex-military personnel to join the police force until they’ve been successfully integrated into civilian life for ten years.

Oh really? Nice gratuitous slap in the face of your country's veterans, my draft-dodging friend. The problem with our law enforcement agencies isn't from veterans - we have proper training in the safe use of firearms and more than enough experience with difficult rules of engagement. The problem is with all of these imitation commandos running around with M-16s and flak vests and zero time in the services.

Love you guys with the "support our men and women in uniform" stickers but oh so quick with the sneaky stab in the back at every opportunity.

42 posted on 08/14/2014 5:37:22 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Greenperson

Exactly. Well said.


43 posted on 08/14/2014 5:38:44 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Chainmail
we have proper training in the safe use of firearms and more than enough experience with difficult rules of engagement

You said it. I wish more vets were cops. We probably wouldn't have nearly so many problems if that was so. One of my former Soldiers is now a cop in AL, and he's got a good head on his shoulders. Most importantly, he's not scared to death of anyone/everyone around him and acts accordingly.

44 posted on 08/14/2014 5:39:44 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: skeeter

He’s as dumb and naive as the rest of the GOPe.


45 posted on 08/14/2014 5:57:49 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: NorthMountain
Because rioting works. How has it worked out for 'white' people in the past 50 years?

All around ya everything is changing and the only players are rioters, lobbyist, insiders, and multinationals.

46 posted on 08/14/2014 6:12:04 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: RIghtwardHo

........with sincere respect, WHAT would you be able to cite tonight as facts upon which you can base such an assertion?

The only FACT I am aware of is that the kid got into a scuffle or fight of some kind inside a police car and the kid somehow got shot. That’s all I know. Can you share with us anything else (that is generally agreed to be factual by responsible people) you know?

Thanks.


47 posted on 08/14/2014 6:12:56 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: flaglady47

Couldn’t agree with you more!

Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are opportunity seekers with very little substance as far as I am concerned. They will realize if they run in 2016 that most conservatives have got their number and will give their support to someone with a MUCH better track record for actually getting things done AND telling the truth....like Governor Rick Perry!


48 posted on 08/14/2014 6:27:04 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I still want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: flaglady47
The Saint Trayvon scam worked so well they decided to reprise it with the Saint Michael scam.

This one will fall apart just like the last one, but just like the last one it only has to hold together until the elections are over.

49 posted on 08/14/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; MinuteGal

“The Saint Trayvon scam worked so well they decided to reprise it with the Saint Michael scam.”

In both cases there conveniently are no firsthand witnesses as to what happened at the time the initial incident occurred. With Trayvon/George and with this Ferguson shooting, no one knows who actually started throwing blows first. In both, IMO, it was the perps that started it by trying to beat the crap out of their victims (George/the Cop). So it becomes very easy to demagogue and paint the portrait whatever way one wants to, to serve political purposes as opposed to serving the truth.

I feel so sorry for this Cop as they could very well try to sacrifice him on the altar of political correctness, rather than going with the truth. Just like in the Trayvon case. In both cases, there were/are now black lynch mobs, payback for slavery don’t you know (Whitey will forever have to pay for that, there is no end date). White guilt forever. And the same group of poverty pimps showed up in both cases aided by their willing accomplices, the MSM.

Once again like with George Zimmerman, this Cop will end up charged with something, and some zealot Prosecutor, eager to make a name for him/herself will jump right in. Hopefully this Cop will have an honest jury, like in the Trayvon case, and will find the Cop not guilty. However, there will undoubtedly be more Blacks on this jury, being so near to St. Louis, and the alleged “crime” taking place in a 70% Black town of Ferguson. So more than likely it could end up a hung jury, which is okay, unless they try him again. I suspect as long as there are some intelligent Whites who aren’t liberals on the jury, it will continue to be a hung jury until they give up. At least I hope so.


50 posted on 08/14/2014 7:03:42 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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