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4 People Who Say Ted Cruz Will Never Be President
Care2 ^ | April 4, 2015 | Robin Marty

Posted on 04/04/2015 8:51:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Frank_2001

I was a teenager in 1980. I grew up in Connecticut and I remember the adults around me were unhappy about Jimmy Carter, and they were talking about how they were thinking about voting for this guy named Ronald Reagan. Well, of course decades later we’ve all come to realize what a transformational presidency that Reagan’s was and I’m thinking next year will be another one too. Almost the same circumstances too. Stagnant economy and the Iranians doing a number on our elected officials in DC.


61 posted on 04/05/2015 11:01:02 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Georgia Girl 2

yep, you nailed it....


62 posted on 04/05/2015 12:40:25 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: BobL
Re: “Then why did EVERY statewide Republican in Texas win by 20 points in 2014, when our state is more minority than the country at large (whites are 55% of Texans).”

You missed the most important word in my statement - ELIGIBLE voters.

The Census counts ALL persons present in Texas, including illegals, legal non-citizens, and minor children.

Hispanics make up 38.4% of Texas residents. But only 44% of Texas Hispanics are eligible to vote.

Non-Hispanic whites make up 44% of Texas residents (not 55% as you wrote above). However, almost 80% of Texas whites are eligible to vote.

In all Texas elections, eligible white voters turn out at a much higher rate than eligible Hispanic voters.

In the 2014 election, all ethnic groups in Texas turned out at a lower rate compared to 2012. But Hispanic turn out was the lowest of all. Compared to 2012, almost 50% fewer Hispanics turned out.

You also made another math error. You claim all state wide Texas GOP candidates won by at least 20% in 2014. Cruz won by 15.8%.

Re: “If 65% of white vote Republican, then the entire Midwest opens up for Republicans and Dems won’t know what hit them.”

The last presidential candidate to get 65% of the white vote was Founding Father James Monroe, in 1820.

Re: “You can give up, I will not.”

Glad to hear that.

What's your plan to stop massive LEGAL immigration?

Oh, I forgot, you support Ted Cruz, who wants to INCREASE massive LEGAL immigration.

63 posted on 04/05/2015 1:25:38 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: reasonisfaith

Re: “The premise underlying your entire argument on this is wrong.”

Your one sentence analysis is incorrect.


64 posted on 04/05/2015 1:29:43 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

HEY GENIUS - how about you quit TROLLING this site.

For starters, exactly WHAT OFFICE was Cruz running for in 2014? It certainly wasn’t US Senate - he won that 2 years earlier.

Perhaps it’s best that you stop TROLLING THIS SITE unless you have something CONSTRUCTIVE to say.


65 posted on 04/05/2015 1:33:04 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: zeestephen

“The last presidential candidate to get 65% of the white vote was Founding Father James Monroe, in 1820”

So who’s your candidate? Harold Stassen perhaps?


66 posted on 04/05/2015 1:35:24 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: zeestephen; Frank_2001

Your premise is that this “legal immigration” issue has proportional relevance. It doesn’t. See post # 60 to illustrate why.


67 posted on 04/05/2015 1:38:11 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: zeestephen

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>> “Hispanics make up 38.4% of Texas residents. But only 44% of Texas Hispanics are eligible to vote.” <<

And that fact is what the Democrat party has staked its very existence upon changing.
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68 posted on 04/05/2015 3:55:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
His fellow Texas politicians
It’s pretty hard to fight for the party nomination when you don’t have the support of your own party members. It’s even worse when you don’t have the support of your local party leaders. Texas Republican Congressman Rep. Pete Sessions told Politico that he doesn’t think Cruz can rally the Texans behind him, saying, “We need someone who can win the state of Florida, can win the state of Pennsylvania … and can win the state of Ohio.

Bull crap, Pete. Tell us: How did Ted Cruz win that Senate seat while demolishing the entrenched, multi-millionaire, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst who had a huge campaign war chest and the backing of all the major newspapers and the Party hierarchy and politicians? Huh? Huh? Huh? And since when has the GOP even been competitive in Pennsylvania? They'd vote DemocRAT if Jesus Christ was the GOP Nominee. As far as Ohio and Florida; they went for Obama both times, so, good luck with them. STFU Pete!
69 posted on 04/05/2015 6:08:15 PM PDT by Din Maker (Anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for Prez in 2016?)
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To: BobL
Re: “So who’s your candidate? Harold Stassen perhaps?”

Your comment makes no sense.

I was responding to your political fantasy about a GOP presidential candidate getting 65% of the white vote.

What does Harold Stassen have to do with that?

70 posted on 04/05/2015 6:09:48 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BobL
Re: “For starters, exactly WHAT OFFICE was Cruz running for in 2014?”

Yup - I goofed.

Since this is a thread about Ted Cruz's election chances, I assumed you were talking about Cruz getting a 20% margin.

I'll read more carefully next time.

I've been trolling Free Republic since the Bush election in 2000.

Immigration is my specialty, since 2005 anyway, when I helped Free Republic destroy the Bush-McCain Amnesty.

71 posted on 04/05/2015 6:26:29 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Attention FReepers: Check out the Source of this Article; "Care2". This is an extreme, left-wing, Gay/Lesbian/Transgender publication. I don't know what's gotten into 2ndDivisionVet here lately. He's posting articles from all these left-wing, radical journalistic rags. I'm about to go into projectile vomiting.
72 posted on 04/05/2015 7:19:19 PM PDT by Din Maker (Anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for Prez in 2016?)
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To: Din Maker

If Jim doesn’t like my threads, he can inform me of that. You, however, are not the site owner any more than I am.


73 posted on 04/05/2015 7:21:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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To: zeestephen

“I was responding to your political fantasy about a GOP presidential candidate getting 65% of the white vote.”

Republican candidates got 75% to 89% of the WHITE VOTE from Alabama to New Mexico in 2014 - that’s why they won by the margins they did. I’ll concede that it was an off-year election, but asking for 65% nationally is not unreasonable, given the how far left the Dems now are.

But they will have to run a candidate that will FIGHT FOR THE WHITE VOTE - they will not get it by running Harold Stassen or whoever you’re pushing.


74 posted on 04/06/2015 12:31:21 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: zeestephen

“Re: “For starters, exactly WHAT OFFICE was Cruz running for in 2014?” Yup - I goofed.”

You’re a better man than most here, admitting a mistake...

“Since this is a thread about Ted Cruz’s election chances, I assumed you were talking about Cruz getting a 20% margin.”

I know people that voted against Cruz (or didn’t vote) here in Texas in 2012 because they didn’t like his style against other Republicans. They had no problem with his political positions though. Add them to the vote, and he likely would have reached a 20% number.

But I’m STILL WAITING - you tell me you’re against Amnesty, yet you seem to say that the country is a lost cause for Republicans...so who should the Republicans run. I use Harold Stassen because I haven’t heard any other names. Maybe Harold Baker? I just don’t know your strategy...maybe buying land and barricading in Idaho?


75 posted on 04/06/2015 12:40:58 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: BobL

Since 2005 my strategy has been to convince Republicans to only support candidates who:

(1) Demand dramatic reductions in LEGAL immigration.

(2) Demand vigorous enforcement of current laws against illegal immigration.

I have totally failed.

100% irreversible failure.

Every year, more Republicans die than Democrats.

Every year, more Democrats turn 18 than Republicans.

Every year, 750,000 new citizens are sworn in, and 80% of them will vote for Democrats.

As best I can tell, a majority of the Republican Party is aggressively supporting its own political suicide.

I have no idea how to stop that, except to keep pushing the mathematical reality in their faces - and hoping for a political miracle.


76 posted on 04/06/2015 1:22:33 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

So you suggest we pack it up and move to Idaho for a last stand?

Sorry, but I not give up that easily.


77 posted on 04/06/2015 1:32:41 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: BobL
Bob,

Republicans have been getting 70%-90% of the white vote in most of the southeastern states since Nixon's landslide in 1972.

I haven't seen 2014 data on New Mexico, but Romney got just 56% of the white vote there in 2012.

Maybe Susana Martinez, the Mexican-American Republican governor, got 75% of the white vote in New Mexico in 2014?

Are you aware that 61% of Hispanics voted AGAINST Martinez in 2010?

Most important - the impressive surplus of white votes in the S.E. is offset by much more liberal white voting in other states.

White voters in Washington state, Oregon, Iowa, and most of the N.E. states gave Obama a majority vote.

In Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan, the white vote was very close to 50-50.

Bottom Line - if a majority of white voters in the Pacific northwest, the Midwest, and the N.E. really want a Conservative president, why don't they vote like the white voters in Texas and the Old South?

78 posted on 04/06/2015 2:11:14 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BobL
Re: “Sorry, but I do not give up that easily.”

I respect your stamina.

I've been fighting this War since Kennedy-Nixon in 1960.

Except for a couple years in Reagan's first term, except for a couple months during the Newt Gingrich revolution in 1995, this country has relentlessly moved to the LEFT for the last 55 years.

If you have a serious national strategy to stop that, I look forward to hearing about it.

79 posted on 04/06/2015 2:23:32 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

“In Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan, the white vote was very close to 50-50.”

Ever wonder why? They are the target...get them to 65% and even Illinois would be play.

What makes you SO CONVINCED that their vote is static. They voted for Reagan in the past, they can do it again.


80 posted on 04/06/2015 3:36:47 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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