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Will Tim Kaine deliver Virginia (and Catholics)? Don’t count on it.
The Washington Post's Monkey Cage ^ | July 22, 2016 | Kyle C. Kopko and Christopher J. Devine

Posted on 07/24/2016 2:56:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

We finally know who the major-party vice-presidential nominees are – Sen. Timothy M. Kaine of Virginia and Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana. Not surprisingly, much “veepstakes” speculation leading up to these announcements centered on the usual factors considered to be electorally advantageous: geography and demography.

But much of what you’ve been told about the importance of those usual factors is wrong. Based upon the available empirical evidence, it’s not at all clear that these candidate characteristics will have a significant effect on voters.

It’s true that voters may like a running mate more because he or she comes from the same state or belongs to the same demographic group as those voters. But rarely does this affect their votes. Except in extraordinary circumstances — such as when a running mate is extremely unpopular — people vote based on the presidential candidate, not the running mate....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Virginia; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016veep; catholics; catholicvote; hillary; kaine; timkaine; va2016; virginia
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1 posted on 07/24/2016 2:56:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s something kind of closet gay about Kaine.

Any rumors?


2 posted on 07/24/2016 3:03:54 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is this, the early 1900s?

Staten Island is YUGE Roman Catholic AND of Italian descent and nobody voted for Cuomo.


3 posted on 07/24/2016 3:03:57 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ok, the headline here is an attention grabber.

the assumption is that hilary needs a guarantee in Virginia. But obama won VA twice.

why does she need help there?

Remember.....if Trump just switches 64 or so EVs from what even Romney got...then he wins. Virginia has what? 18 of those? Surely hilary has Virginia locked up?

If NOT...she has problems...


4 posted on 07/24/2016 3:06:00 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: TigerClaws

I thought the same thing...Hand motions...The way he talks...


5 posted on 07/24/2016 3:09:36 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Virginia had the convicted felon voting rights struck down in court.


6 posted on 07/24/2016 3:10:00 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
feh...
7 posted on 07/24/2016 3:11:46 PM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING!)
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To: dp0622

Consider the source - the Washington Dumb as a Post Monkey Brains.


8 posted on 07/24/2016 3:15:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No REAL CATHOLICS would EVER SUPPORT an ABPRTION LOVOMG catholic...EVER!!! That would be “dancing on the TRAPDOOR of HELL”....and NO TRUE CATHOLIC would EVER vote for him!!!


9 posted on 07/24/2016 3:17:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump will win Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiania, Wisconsin, Texas, Florida, Iowa, West Virginia, and many more states, not listed. But winning the listed states, Trump is our next POTUS!!!


10 posted on 07/24/2016 3:17:34 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: rockrr

That’s amazingly outdated political thinking.

Trump is a modern political thinker and it works.

Many of my Italian friends are ready do Anthing for him.

And when Italians say that, it’s scary!!! :)

They LOVE HIM! I was the last to come around.

####ing cruz.


11 posted on 07/24/2016 3:20:49 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MtnClimber

Not exactly. Courts said he couldn’t do it all at once, so he is running the signature machine 200,000 times. What a$$hole we have for a (expletive deleted) governor.


12 posted on 07/24/2016 3:26:11 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: ConservativeDude

She doesn’t have VA locked up and our ever so helpful to Hillary governor just got his a$$ kicked by the VA Supreme Court, knocking out 206K potential Hillary voters, former convicts whose voting rights McAuliffe unilaterally restored before the Supreme Court told him NO, and required electoral registrars to take off the voting folls those who had already registered.

(the above is vying for ‘longest sentence ever’)


13 posted on 07/24/2016 3:30:15 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: TigerClaws

So you noticed too.


14 posted on 07/24/2016 3:33:51 PM PDT by odawg
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To: dp0622

“And when Italians say that, it’s scary!!! :)”

Especially when they get around you and want to kiss you (male).


15 posted on 07/24/2016 3:35:17 PM PDT by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A real Catholic would not get 100% from NARAL and Planned Parenthood! But then a real Catholic would never be a Democrat. It’s just as sinful to support abortion (which Kaine does) as to ‘personally’ support it. In both cases, innocent babies are murdered.


16 posted on 07/24/2016 3:36:49 PM PDT by kiwikit
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To: odawg

I HATE THAT my uncles kiss me on the lips!!!!!

But it’s the old world custom and I’ve needed their help on occasion so what can I do?

I DO NOT kiss my nephews on the lips!!

How did you know about that?!?!


17 posted on 07/24/2016 3:40:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I talked to some Catholics this morning who said abortion is the only area he strays from the Church’s teaching on Social Justice and they plan to vote for Him. It was pointed out to them that life is the most sacred and to those aborted the rest of it didn’t matter. No swaying those folks.


18 posted on 07/24/2016 3:52:52 PM PDT by kalee
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To: dp0622

“How did you know about that?!?!”

I did’t, except in the movies when the Mafia decides to eliminate someone, they will go up to the victim and give them a big kiss (kiss of death). I have been on jobs where we worked with men of Italian heritage and we would tease them about that.

I have seen historical documentaries on World War II and the Russian men would throw lip locks on each other at the drop of a hat. Strange indeed. I have read accounts of American soldiers using evasive measures to ward that off.

Arab men walk down the streets holding hands with each other.


19 posted on 07/24/2016 4:24:11 PM PDT by odawg
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To: ConservativeDude

A)She doesn’t have it locked up.
B)Kaine will certainly help in his home state but still doesn’t lock it up
C)VA is very important, Trump needs either VA or PA or his chances aren’t good.


20 posted on 07/24/2016 4:44:26 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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