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No regrets: one year after they voted for Trump, has he delivered?
The Manchester Guardian ^ | October 26, 2017 | Tom McCarthy in Bangor, Pennsylvania

Posted on 10/26/2017 10:41:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Duane Miller realized at the “very last minute” last November that he was going to vote for a candidate he didn’t much like, Donald Trump. He did not even really vote for Trump, to hear him describe it.

Instead, he voted against Washington fecklessness and corruption, which he saw as embodied by Hillary Clinton, in his eyes the ultimate establishment candidate, who was doubtlessly going to win anyway, he thought.

“I thought there was no way that Trump could beat Hillary, right up till the end,” said Miller. “Right up to the night before.”

That was almost a year ago, now. Enough time for the surprise of Trump’s victory to sink in. Enough time to get a look at Trump in the White House, and to assess his performance as president.

Miller, 79, a Democrat and the former mayor of Bangor, Pennsylvania, has not been impressed by Trump – but it would be inaccurate to say that Miller is surprised, either, because, as he puts it, he never mistook Trump for a political savior. It is a view shared by many of the customers at his paint store, he said.

“Trump’s losing support because of his, of the complete stupidity – you know, maybe we should give him an IQ test with others,” Miller said, referring to Trump’s recent challenge to secretary of state Rex Tillerson to compare IQ tests. “People are getting fed up with that. But there’s not much of an alternative. We’ll elect someone in four years. So.

Conversations with Trump voters as the anniversary of the 8 November election nears do not typically reveal such regret. Most people who voted for the president are still solidly behind him, at least in Northampton County, Pennsylvania, which voted for Barack Obama twice before opting for Trump last fall....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Pennsylvania; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: nevertrumpers; pennsylvania; trump; voters
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They found one guy who sort of regrets his vote. In a state of 13 million people.
1 posted on 10/26/2017 10:41:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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No, he did not vote for Trump. It states “He did not even really vote for Trump” meaning he’s just making sh*t up for us sane people to read about this idiot’s Trump hate rants.


2 posted on 10/26/2017 10:46:06 AM PDT by beergarden
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They found one guy who sort of regrets his vote. In a state of 13 million people.


Typical Leftist disinformation/propaganda.

The Guardian is a far left publication.


3 posted on 10/26/2017 10:48:42 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For a man who has to fight the representatives and Senators from BOTH parties every time he tries to help the American people, he ain’t doin’ a bad job.....


4 posted on 10/26/2017 10:50:50 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This story notwithstanding, I think we should view this as a cautionary tale.

We got Obama because of Bush. We got Trump because of Obama/Clinton.

She was a deeply flawed, corrupt candidate. Even Democrats knew that. Many Dems stayed home and simply didn’t vote. If the Democrats run a “moderate” candidate, and I don’t mean Uncle Bernie or that Witch Warren - then I think Trump will have a serious, serious challenge getting re-elected. And it will all be painted as an overreaction from buyer’s remorse.

That’s my gut feeling right now.


5 posted on 10/26/2017 10:51:49 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe this bullshit, not even for one second. Another jerk off that will be part of the 62% that think Trump is doing a ‘poor job’. Fake news, fake polls taken by the same assholes that said the hildabutchbitch was a 97% favorite last year.


6 posted on 10/26/2017 10:52:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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Stupid BS story!

Whenever FOX goes to a Diner in PA, EVERYONE that voted for TRUMP, still LOVES him!

7 posted on 10/26/2017 10:55:28 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have been saying since January that it's going to take until at least October or November for Trump to be able to BEGIN the process of real swamp draining. He just got his FBI director in August, and its going to take some time for him to start digging around in the swamp of the FBI (which is where most of the evidence is hidden).

Things are right on schedule... some RINO's are already starting to self-drain from Congress and in the coming months things are going to start getting quite interesting.

It's a complete miracle that Trump has managed to stay in office thus far (and stay alive)... and he's just now starting to get some real traction on the tough task of swamp-draining.

so far he is EXCEEDING my expectations.

8 posted on 10/26/2017 10:59:30 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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Er, no.

Do you bother at all following my voter registration stats?

www.bigleaguepolitics.com

Read my latest data. Then we’ll talk.


9 posted on 10/26/2017 11:00:04 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I think that your premise would have been correct in 2016. Hillary was the only candidate who was flawed enough for Trump to beat. Heck, I'll readily admit that I voted for him, and mentally crossed my fingers that it wasn't a bigger mistake than sitting out the election.

But, here we are a year later. He's not delivered on *everything* promised, a point that Never Trumpers will belabor. However, he's delivered on a whole lot, mostly by rolling back some of the XO insanity put in place by his predecessor.

He's taken huge steps to defund the more odious parts of Obamacare, and to deregulate insurance companies so that they're not funded by a captive audience.

Illegal immigration is at a 45 year low (I didn't believe it, until I read it on FR).

Food stamp recipients are down 1.5 million under Trump, and I'd guess that a part of it is because of illegals self-deporting.

H1B and H2B programs are rolling back.

EPA is rolling back some of the more odious regs, and its minions are leaving in droves.

The market loves it. Up 25% or so since last November? Awesome.

And, I could go on, but you get the point. People usually vote their wallets which is good for Trump, and already have a lot of "Trump is Hitler" fatigue...so that won't play well in 2020.

My bet, unless Republicans shoot themselves in the foot (always a possibility) and/or Dems find someone on their bench who isn't a retread (Biden/Bernie/Warren) or a complete idiot (Kamala Harris) ... Trump wins it going away.

10 posted on 10/26/2017 11:04:02 AM PDT by wbill
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Read some of the comments. They're hilarious. Here's a typical one:
distefano111
28m ago

Trump is, and always was, obviously a disgusting individual [would the moral right look at his attitude to women & business ethics], totally dishonest & dangerous [fiscal conservatives look at his tax policies]

But there now seems to be a world trend It started with the Arab Spring when middle class, educated & optimistic people wanted abetter country. Democracy showed that there was a vast hinterland of angry left behinds. In Europe many countries have more and more people voting for nasty racist parties. In the UK people ignored/marginalised experts and voted for Brexit; what an indictment of our education system. Belief in conspiracies, hatred of liberals, PC behaviour, women & education has become acceptable to ignorant white males. That women and decent people can be beguiled by the likes of Bannon is just so dispiriting

It's the 1930s revisited, depression, protectionism, America/Germany/Britain First, turning on minorities and foreigners, bellicose international posturing The stupidity of Trumpists, Brexiteers, National Front etc is beyond my comprehension


11 posted on 10/26/2017 11:06:57 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: Cementjungle
some RINO's are already starting to self-drain from Congress and in the coming months things are going to start getting quite interesting

Yep. I commented on this very thing to Dad the other night. The chickens are starting to come home to roost. If Trump wins the 2020 elections, I'd look for a real reckoning among a fair number of mid-level Dems. Hillary? Holder? Lynch? BO? Not too likely, but they'll have a conveyor belt to feed all of their minions right under the bus to take a fall for them.

And, I'd be OK with that, I think. Would be nice to get the big fish, but if we clean out the rest of the pond, I could live with that. Particularly if it means that a lot of the up-and-coming sleazeballs get the legs cut out from under them.

12 posted on 10/26/2017 11:08:52 AM PDT by wbill
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Let them keep dancing to false music played of Pan’s flute. When the music stops they will be laughed at.


13 posted on 10/26/2017 11:30:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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I voted for Trump for the judges. So far, so good. If McConnell would get his reptilian rump in gear and confirm some more it would be a homerun.


14 posted on 10/26/2017 11:47:14 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Recent survey: 98% of Trump’s base supports him strongly.

I was totally behind DJT on election day, and today I back him—including
his “behavior” —one thousand percent.


15 posted on 10/26/2017 11:53:42 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."a)
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To: wbill
And, I'd be OK with that, I think. Would be nice to get the big fish, but if we clean out the rest of the pond, I could live with that.

I agree. People like Hillary or BO will never go to prison, but its not that important in the bigger picture. What's important that their influence is neutered and the bigger swamp gets drained and we get a responsible government back again.

Let Hillary and BO sit out their retirement years with no power over us... let them go down in history as the crooks that they are. Many of the mid-level crooks will go to prison and/or lose their wealth over all this stuff, and that will help scare future crooks off (for a while at least).

16 posted on 10/26/2017 12:00:56 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Parts of this list were posted on FR earlier this week:

Trump Administration: Items accomplished or in process:

1. Nominated Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch and dozens of Constitution-supporting lower court judges
2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria to end chemical warfare against Syrians
3. Took U.S. out of TPP (Trans-Pacific trade deal structured against U.S. interests)
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70% (lowest in 17 years)
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125
6. Mortgage applications for new homes at a 7-year high
7. Arranged 20% tariff on soft lumber from Canada
8. Bids and prototypes for border wall well underway
9. Pulled out of anti-US and mega-costly Paris climate accord, with an offer to renegotiate
10. Keystone and Dakota pipelines approved to aid energy independence
11. Got NATO allies to boost their contributions by 4.3%
12. Allowing Veteran’s Administration to terminate bad employees
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans
14. More than 600,000 jobs created
15. Median household income at a 7-year high
16. Stock market at highest ever in its history
17. China agreed to curb North Korean exports and banking as punishment for aggression
18. China agreed to import 90,000 tons of American beef
19. $89 billion saved in regulation rollbacks across many industries
20. Rollback of regulation to revive clean coal industry
21. ISIS capital Raqqa recaptured; ISIS soldiers surrendering
22. Travel ban instated from terror strongholds; upheld by Supreme Court after wasteful leftist lawsuits
23. Executive order for religious freedom
24. Restarted NASA space exploration programs (reversed shutdown by past admin)
25. $600 million cut from UN budget
26. Targeting of violent M-13 gangs
27. Deporting violent illegal immigrants
28. Created a commission on child trafficking; multiple arrests of child rape and child porn gangs
29. Created a commission on voter fraud
30. Created a commission for opioid addiction
31. Extends power to states to drug-test unemployment recipients
32. Unemployment lowest in 10 years, since May 2007
33. Historic Black College and University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office for victims of crimes commited by illegal immigrants
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank (bailouts of big banks that hurt small banks, taxpayers and businesses)
37. Repealed DOT ruling that took power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
39. End of DAPA amnesty program
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
41. Promoted businesses to create American jobs
42. Signed the “Buy American Hire American” executive order
43. Ordered govt agencies to cut regulations—must cut two for every new reg created
44. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are “America first”
45. Apprentice program
46. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years
47. $78 billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota…
48. Denied FBI a new building
49. $700 million saved with F-35 military plane renegotiation
50. Save $22 million by reducing White House payroll
51. Dept of Treasury reports $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)
52. Negotiated release of six U.S. humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt
53. Gas price averages lowest in 12 years
54. Executive Order to promote energy independence and economic growth
55. Has given head executive of each agency 6-month time frame dated 3/15/17 to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficacy
56. Revised military Rules of Engagement to give greater decision-making to officers in the situations on the ground
57. Nearly 1.5 million fewer Americans on food stamps as of USDA statistics, July
58. Signed 41 bills to date. Even with a recalcitrant Congress, President Trump has worked with them to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman

Additional Signings (some, but not all):

• Signed executive order on the Establishment of Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy
• Signed an executive order aimed at expanding offshore drilling
• Signed executive order directing a review of national monument designations under prior administrations
• Signed an executive order to boost agriculture industry
• Signed a memo ordering a probe into whether foreign steel is hurting U.S. national security
• Signed bill allowing states to block Planned Parenthood funding
• Signed an order calling for a review of the “waters of the United States” environmental regulation that had given control of every creek, pond and stream to the U.S. government and that had hobbled farming and ranching
• Signed three orders creating DOJ task forces to combat crime and drug cartels
• Issued executive order directing the Treasury secretary to review financial regulatory law
• Signed executive orders to restructure National Security Council Homeland Security Council, extend bans on ex-administration officials working as lobbyists to five years and lifetime ban on ex-officials lobbying for foreign countries
• Signed orders re border security in addition to U.S.-Mexico border wall, including cutting funding to sanctuary cities, hiring thousands more border and immigration agents, toughening immigration enforcement and reinstating federal-local immigration partnerships.
• Issued a Presidential Proclamation designating October 22nd through October 28, 2017 as National Minority Enterprise Development Week.

President Trump has also made scores of personal appearances, meeting with economic and trade groups, trips to Walter Reed to award Purple Hearts to wounded veterans, participated in a farmers’ roundtable, met with victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens, visited sites and people affected by hurricanes, etc


17 posted on 10/26/2017 12:02:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was confused and bewildered on Election Day and I wrote in my choice.

After watching President Trump ever since he won, I have fallen in love with him. He is amazing. He is natural (almost impossible to find ), he is sensitive, he is strong (don’t fool with him), he is wise, he is pleasant (even in his criticism of media)and so many other qualities too numerous to list. I cannot wait to vote for him when the time comes and I feel so fortunate to have him as my President.
I was in the business world for twenty-five years. He is an almost perfect business man and I would have loved having him for a boss.
PS: I love his family


18 posted on 10/26/2017 12:07:31 PM PDT by Maris Crane (.)
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Hey you got to understand nobody, not even Trump thought that he would have to fight tooth and nail for everything and that it would take so long to get appointments made.

Look as corrupt as the IRS was, he is just starting to get a New IRS head in place.

Today contractors displayed prototypes of the WALL.

food stamp use has dropped, so has unemployment.

He is doing what he promised, but between the deep state, Democrats and gutless Republican Rino’s, it is taking far longer than it should, but that isn't Trump's fault.

19 posted on 10/26/2017 12:26:23 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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I’m in PA.
I am in my 60’s.
President Trump and I have things in common.
I love my country and so does he.
President Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime.


20 posted on 10/26/2017 12:36:50 PM PDT by Post5203 (RELEASE THE weiner LAPTOP NOW)
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