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Why Trump Won’t Be the GOP Nominee in 2020
The American Prospect ^ | August 7, 2018 | Robert Kuttner, Co-Founder and Co-Editor

Posted on 08/07/2018 7:13:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is a saying attributed to various wise men: “Never make predictions, especially about the future.” Allow me to tempt fate and offer some musings about the 2020 election and America’s democratic future:

The Republicans. I will be amazed if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. The water around him is rising fast, and he is likely to be long gone by 2020, either via impeachment or resignation in a deal that spares him prosecution.

Trump’s Sunday morning tweet admitted that a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign aides and a Kremlin-linked lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent.”

(TWEET-AT-LINK)

The tweet undercut a lie that Donald Trump Jr. told in July 2017 saying that the meeting had been primarily about the adoption of Russian children. The lie was cooked up in close consultation with Trump Senior.

In a recent New Yorker post, Adam Davidson details just how Trump’s “no collusion” story has fallen apart, in part due to his own impulsive failure to keep his lies straight.

As Davidson summarizes it:

•The president’s son and top advisers knowingly met with individuals connected to the Russian government, hoping to obtain dirt on their political opponent.
•Documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were later used in an overt effort to sway the election.
•When the Trump Tower meeting was uncovered, the president instructed his son and staff to lie about the meeting, and told them precisely which lies to use.
•The president is attempting to end the investigation into this meeting and other instances of attempted collusion between his campaign staff and representatives of the Russian government.

All of this is more than enough to justify an obstruction of justice charge, a prime ground for impeachment. It should be more than enough to cause Republican defenders to distance themselves from Trump. As Special Counsel Robert Mueller ferrets out more and more detail, a panicky Trump gets crazier and crazier. He will likely do himself in.

When Trump goes, don’t expect Vice President Mike Pence to be the 2020 nominee either. Pence is a famously inept politician, who was on track to be defeated for re-election as the Republican governor of Indiana—quite a trick.

The hardcore Trump base will be furious if (when) Trump is forced out. If Pence succeeds Trump, there will be a free-for-all, with some candidates running as the true successor to Trump and others trying to reclaim a sane Republican Party.

The latter could include moderates John Kasich, governor of Ohio, who is already positioning himself for a run; Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, and Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker. Their claim to success is that they get elected as Republicans in normally Democratic states. Their problem is that the electorate in Republican primaries is far to their right.

The former could include any number of frothing-at-the-mouth members of the House Freedom Caucus, plus of course Pence. So my bet is that the Republican nominee will be someone other than Trump, and will be presiding over a badly fractured party. What a gift to Democrats!

The Democrats. The entire Democratic pack is running to the left, because that’s where the grassroots energy is. Even Kirsten Gillibrand is trying to position herself to the left of Elizabeth Warren. One can debate whether the formerly centrist Gillibrand has had a sincere conversion or whether she is an opportunistic weathervane. But her stances say a lot about where the Democratic weather is.

Nobody has officially declared, of course, but as a splendid profile of Warren in New York magazine explains, Warren is increasingly the favorite of the activist party base and a front-runner to be the nominee.

Another likely finalist is Corey Booker. If Bernie Sanders goes again, he could be a third finalist.

Joe Biden is prominently mentioned, but I don’t buy it. He is almost as old as Bernie. Biden will turn 78 in November 2020, when Sanders will be 79. Biden is loved by the pundit class, but in two previous primary runs, he lost badly.

If I had to place money on it, I’d bet that Warren will be the nominee, and that Sanders won’t run. If Sanders and Warren get into a slugfest and divide the left, a more centrist economic candidate who is left on social issues, like Booker, could win.

As I’ve repeatedly written, Warren is the most effective leader the Dems have had in decades at narrating the lived experience of regular working people—as progressive politics. Some say she won’t do well with white males, that she is great in person, but too preachy and shrill on TV.

We’ll soon find out. I think she will blow the opposition away in the Midwestern primaries and caucuses.

What about Nancy Pelosi? Should Democrats take back control of the House in this year’s midterms, there is movement among backbenchers in the House Democratic Caucus to replace Pelosi as prospective speaker with a younger leader who is less of a lightning rod for Republican caricature. There are three problems.

First, the other members of the senior Democratic leadership are of Pelosi’s generation. The whip, Steny Hoyer, at 79, is older then Pelosi. Joe Crowley, the caucus chair, was knocked off in a primary by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Second, even though some Democratic candidates have pledged not to vote for Pelosi for speaker in order to take that issue off the table, she has been a very effective leader and there is a great deal of loyalty to her. When Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan challenged Pelosi for leader in 2017, Pelosi won overwhelmingly, 134 to 63.

Third, there is no consensus candidate among back-benchers to succeed Pelosi. Ryan would not do much better if he challenged Pelosi again. She might lose a couple of dozen votes from newly elected Democrats, but that’s not sufficient to topple her. And many newly elected Democrats will be women and progressives—like Pelosi.

My bet is that there will be an agreement in the caucus to give Pelosi one more term as speaker in exchange for her agreement to step down after 2020. And then her successor will be someone not in the current top leadership ranks, but a committee chair or other second-tier leadership figure in their forties or fifties.

As for the midterms? A year ago, I bet that Democrats would pick up 54 House seats. They may not gain quite that many, but they should comfortably take back the House.

A Close Run Thing. After the Battle of Waterloo, the victorious Duke of Wellington described his victory as “the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life.” The remark has often been rendered as “a close run thing.”

The appointment and survival of Robert Mueller has been a close run thing. Had Attorney General Jeff Sessions not recused himself, had Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein not been committed to the rule of law, had Sessions not refused to buckle under Trump’s taunts and threats, and had just enough senior Republican Trump allies in Congress not warned Trump to keep his hands off Sessions and Rosenstein, Mueller would have been done for.

If American democracy survives President Donald Trump, it will have been a close run thing. At the risk of making the most out-on-a limb prediction of all, I think that it will.

So, who actually said, “Never make predictions, especially about the future”? The expression has been attributed to figures as varied as Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Mark Twain, Yogi Berra, and Casey Stengel. Alas, the original is lost to the mists of time.

It turns out that getting the past right is almost as hard as getting the future right.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; bs; fake; fakenews; kasich; pence; trump; trump2020
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It's like Bizzaro World. Think hard. Who do you know that would vote for John Kasich in the primaries or the general election?
1 posted on 08/07/2018 7:13:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberal prog say’s Trump ain’t gonna be there then.

Liberal prog is a liberal prog. Reality ain’t their strong suit.


2 posted on 08/07/2018 7:15:15 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Good thing that Hillary won the election! /sarc

Don’t these establishment fools understand that America hates them with a passion because of the two-faced, lying, grifting, totolitarian bastards that they are?

Trump 2020!


3 posted on 08/07/2018 7:17:20 PM PDT by WMarshal (Because we're America, Bitches!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is this crap?


4 posted on 08/07/2018 7:18:47 PM PDT by Luke21 (The Hill sucks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know plenty.

They are suburban white women in my area. Middlesex/Monmmouth/Morris, NJ.

One group are NeverTrumpers.

The other group are hardcore Trump supporters.

The other group are secret Trump voters but are afraid due to social acceptance issues from leftists.

Like I stated earlier this evening, suburban white women are a swing demographic.

Not every American likes Trump. The country is divided.

We need to get out of the FR bubble and realize the country is 50-50.

The GOP base and some Independents are with Trump, but the GOP Establishment still hates Trump.

They want Kasich/Flake or Flake/Kasich in 2020.

Those two men appeal to the same voters in OH-12, Kasich’s old district. Suburbanites.

Trump running for reelection is 50-50. Trump is 72 and we don’t know if he wants to go through this again.

We’ll see.


5 posted on 08/07/2018 7:19:09 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My brother in law, unfortunately. The guy is a genius, lauded physician and researcher. Has the common sense of a hamster.

CC


6 posted on 08/07/2018 7:19:47 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: WMarshal

:)


7 posted on 08/07/2018 7:21:28 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll have some of whatever Mr. Kuttner had prior to penning this hallucinogenic screed.


8 posted on 08/07/2018 7:22:00 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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All of this is more than enough to justify an obstruction of justice charge, a prime ground for impeachment.

Where is the underlying crime for the obstruction of justice charge?

Collusion is not a crime.

9 posted on 08/07/2018 7:22:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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"Tell me about the rabbits George! Tell me about the rabbits!"
 
10 posted on 08/07/2018 7:23:00 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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I was an Eighties kid. Reagan was and always will be "my president".

The enthusiasm about, approval of and sense of fulfilled optimism engendered by Donald Trump is unlike anything I have ever witnessed or imagined I would live long enough to see. It's actually making me hope God might give me a family of my own. Why? Because for the first time I'm not feeling like it would be wrong to bring a child into this society. The pendulum IS swinging the other way. And most people not only know it, they are finding themselves rejoicing that things are beginning to turn around.

This author has no clue whatsoever. Trump has '20 sewn up and the following two elections are already Pence's, if he feels that calling.

11 posted on 08/07/2018 7:23:12 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("Progressivism" is as every kind of evil: it can never create, only corrupt and destroy.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

After reading the article I think that was an insult to hamsters


12 posted on 08/07/2018 7:23:20 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
If Trump doesn't want to run for re-election due to his age or other issues, I wouldn't be shocked if he stepped down a year early so Mike Pence could run as an incumbent. I don't think that's likely to happen at all.

I agree with a lot of what you've said about suburban voters, but Cardinal McCarrick will be a special guest on Sesame Street before Jeff Flake or John Kasich get anywhere near a presidential ticket.

13 posted on 08/07/2018 7:24:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never Trumpers at it again, still. These people are clueless and wishful thinkers. Good for a laugh.


14 posted on 08/07/2018 7:25:07 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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If Pence succeeds Trump, there will be a free-for-all, with some candidates running as the true successor to Trump and others trying to reclaim a sane Republican Party.The latter could include moderates John Kasich, governor of Ohio, who is already positioning himself for a run

Kasich will never get my vote in the primary.

As a life long Ohioan I can tell you he is a Progressive pretending to be an establishment Republican

15 posted on 08/07/2018 7:25:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NOBODY!

This whole articled is beyond insane! LOL

16 posted on 08/07/2018 7:25:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump is doing just fine, thank you very much.

He will be the GOP nominee.

But he really needs to do something about the China trade mess.

I am all for the guy, have been for a long time.

I like what he is (saying) but China is still walking all over America in trade.

Badly.


17 posted on 08/07/2018 7:25:33 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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