Posted on 10/11/2019 12:28:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren has the momentum in the Democratic Party's 2020 race with polls suggesting that she is now pulling ahead of former vice president Joe Biden, the longtime frontrunner in a contest that is still months away from its conclusion in July next year.
The data shows she is drawing in a big chunk of support from both moderate and liberal Democratic primary voters. Warren is the most popular second choice among not only Biden's supporters but also those backing independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, a democratic socialist.
Yet there is a group of Sanders supporters active on social media who say, as they did in 2016 when he ran against Hillary Clinton, that it is "Bernie or bust." Warren may appeal to many Sanders supporters. But some of them say they will never vote for her—in either the primaries or 2020.
Victor Tiffany, an activist from New York, describes himself as the godfather of the #BernieorBust campaign, which started back in 2015. He even co-authored a book on it: Bernie or Bust: Pioneers of Electoral Revolt. And he has plenty of reasons for never voting Warren even in a two-horse race with Trump.
"Take your pick: She's 'a capitalist to her bones,' consulting with Hillary Clinton, a warmonger who's been voting for Trump's defense budgets, not especially honest, not progressive but a 'fauxgressive' Obamawannabe, and more," Tiffany tells Newsweek.
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that it is “Bernie or bust.”
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These people played a role in Trump’s 2016 win in certain states.
I fear for this country’s future. Pres. Trump is simply life support. The pendulum always swings.
Electing Trump was an unexpected miracle.
Maybe we’ll have more.
He gets re-elected.
Finishes the wall.
Ramps up removals of illegal aliens.
Reverses the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA)
It could happen....
Keep your eye on a couple of “dark horses” back in the pack. Tom Steyer is in the race, and this time, he is supposed to make it to the debate stage. I have no idea how he would handle the free-for-all fustercluck that Democrat debates turn into, but I think he may be aiming at taking over the void left by the now failing candidacy of Joe Biden. Another back there, should Joe Biden be finally convinced of the futility of chasing the rabbit around the dog racetrack, keep a lookout for Michael Bloomberg. Almost diametrically opposed to Fauxcahontas’ take on Wall Street, he would bring a strong contrast to most of the Democrat Socialist field, and maybe, just maybe, rescue the Democrats from their own folly. But again, either of these two would be making a late start, and it is WAY too late for a viable third-party option.
I've been saying the same thing. It's not 2020 that I'm worried about, it's 2024. 2024 Dem candidates will have a four year lead on whomever the Repubs run. And I'm not seeing anyone on the GOP side who has the horsepower to make it all the way to the White House.
“But some of them say they will never vote for her—in either the primaries or 2020.”
How many? is the important question.
There’s a small percentage required to shift the election one way or another. Bernie supporters being about 20% of Democrats, if half of those are “Bernie or bust” types, that’s 5% of voters who won’t vote (who would have voted D if they did); that alone is roughly enough to throw the election to Trump.
Doesn’t matter. The Dems have all their eggs in the Trump impeachment basket. They know that none of their declared candidates has a prayer.
Now if they get really, really desperate they might persuade Madam Secretary to jump into the race at the 11th hour. But she’ll just get smoked, too.
It depends on what state the die hard Bernie supporters are in...they could make a difference in New Hampshire or Minnesota, for example.
Gee, I don’t see why they wouldn’t vote for her-—she’s a liar and crazy as all get out, but otherwise, she’s fine.
None of them have any reservations about her and the big lies she has told about herself.
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