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The Senate Races of 2004
None ^ | 12/10/02 | RepublicanWizard

Posted on 12/09/2002 10:02:36 AM PST by republicanwizard

Jim Robinson and fellow Freepers,

I felt it necessary to set up a big post to follow developing news about the 2004 Senate races. Although we lost in Louisiana, I'm still reasonably ecstatic over our chances in 2004.

Please post any developing news on this thread, such as candidates and polls.

Thanks.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2004; bond; boxer; breaux; bunning; burr; daschle; demint; dorgan; edwards; fitzgerald; flake; giuliani; graham; grassley; hollings; huckabee; hutchinson; janklow; marin; mccain; murray; reelection; reid; schafer; schumer; senate; specter; thune; toomey; wilson; wyden; zellmiller
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Arlen Specter, with five million in the bank, has declared his bid for re-election.

This race is over. Unless there is a primary challenge, Specter is re-elected.

1 posted on 12/09/2002 10:02:36 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Well, okay, if you want to start one from scratch.

FReepers may want to read through 2004 Senate Election List and Senate Outlook, 2004 Elections before posting questions on this thread to see if they've been covered.

The next big news to come out will be Frank Murkowski's replacement in Alaska, expected today or tomorrow, followed by various "I will run" "I won't run" declarations in the 34 races.

2 posted on 12/09/2002 10:16:54 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ
Mind your own business Johnny. I don't know how to find those threads or to create them, but here is something to keep us all up to date.
3 posted on 12/09/2002 11:29:23 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: JohnnyZ
Mind your own business Johnny. I don't know how to find those threads or to create them, but here is something to keep us all up to date.
4 posted on 12/09/2002 11:29:34 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard; Jim Robinson
Isn't it time to re-name this forum?
5 posted on 12/09/2002 12:11:19 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: The Old Hoosier
60 in 04!
6 posted on 12/09/2002 12:14:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
60 in 04!

Good goal. And let's make em conservatives, while we're at it.

...and about 50 more conservatives in the House would be nice, too.

7 posted on 12/09/2002 12:40:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: republicanwizard
wizard, didn't mean to cause offense, just thought it a little odd to see a new thread on this subject. (I believe a search for '2004 Senate' would have revealed the existing threads, although conversation there had certainly slacked off.) I'm going along with it, though, as you see. The libertarian tendencies on this board just can't be controlled! :)

Roll Call has a couple relevant articles up, one stating that Connecticut Republican Party chairman Chris Depino is a likely challenger to Sen. Chris Dodd and another covering the Specter primary challenge possibility.

8 posted on 12/09/2002 12:47:39 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: republicanwizard
Bad news in Illinois

Peter Fitzgerald (R) is up for re-election in 2004. He is a highly independent maverick who votes mostly conservative, Illinois press tags him as the "member of the Senate least-liked by his colleagues.".

In '98 he won against the hapless Carol Mosely Braun. In his self-financed television ads, he never spoke once (he has a very squeaky voice), preferring to rely on voice-overs, and avoided public speaking.

The GOP leadership (If the Illinois GOP can be said to have "leaders") is openly seeking another candidate to replace him.

We lost our chance with Drab Durbin in November, the #1 obstructionist after L'il Tommy. Unfortunately, we picked a candidate, Jim Durkin, who had zero money, no organization, and no discernable personality, Furthermore, he tied his hopes to the useless "star" of John McCain, who made exactly one 45 minute visit to Illinois for his young loyalist.

9 posted on 12/09/2002 2:31:01 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: cookcounty
Durkin was a McCainiac? So THAT's why he didn't get much play from the white house!

In Alaska news, Sen. Murkowski can't make up his mind and has left for Washington for 10 days to pack up his things, and probably won't announce a decision until he gets back. How the hell hard is it, Frank? SARAH PALIN! Tax-cutting pro-growth pro-life conservative!

10 posted on 12/10/2002 7:02:04 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: Jim Robinson
Minority Leader Tom Daschle disagrees. He seems to think the D's will pick up 5 seats in 2004, "just like 2000". I'm not sure how he's counting, but I would guess it's something like: Arizona (retirement), Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, Pennsylvania.

Daschle predicts 5-seat gain

11 posted on 12/10/2002 10:11:04 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ; BillyBoy; RedWing9; unspun
Durkin was a McCainiac? So THAT's why he didn't get much play from the white house

Due to the Illinois-Gov-George-Ryan-disaster, no big name, big money guy wanted martyrdom. But the bi-partisan combine did not want to energize the base. So they maneuvered a three way race between their pro-gun-control, pro-tax-increase "conservative" and two true conservatives. All three were lousy campaigners.

I've had several talks with experts Morton Blackwell sends around the country teaching Campaign Leadership. They claimed to be close to Karl Rove and the Bush political operation. They did not have a clue what was happening in Illinois. They were openly supporting George Ryan, Rich Juliano and all those convicted felons. Honesty vs corruption must be the #1 issue of a winning coalition. Pro-life, pro-2A, low-tax, school-choice people are needed in the coalition. But those issues have to play second fiddle to the issue that unites us. Convincing the single issue people in the coalition that this is necessary to win is difficult. Yet it is so clear that the bi-partisan combine is the real obstacle on each of their single issues.

Currently Fitzgerald and his FAB5 friends in the State Senate have the high ground on honesty vs corruption. But the Dem leaders are smart-like-Bill. Unless the Topinkas and Hasterts get behind Fitzgerald and his allies, the Dems will gain the high ground through a brilliant PR campaign.

12 posted on 12/10/2002 5:18:01 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: JohnnyZ
Minority Leader Tom Daschle disagrees. He seems to think the D's will pick up 5 seats in 2004, "just like 2000". I'm not sure how he's counting, but I would guess it's something like: Arizona (retirement), Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, Pennsylvania.

Heh Heh. Wait until the delirium of the Louisiana victory wears off, at which point he'll realize his goose is cooked.
13 posted on 12/10/2002 7:14:37 PM PST by nospinzone
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To: nospinzone; spintreebob; republicanwizard
Speculation that Daschle won't run again for senate, that if he doesn't some schmuck state senator will, and that Thune & Janklow will square off in a GOP senate primary regardless:

Daschle
Thune's future
Thune v Janklow
Volesky

Good opportunity for a pickup, especially if Daschle retires. Also cute how the paper compares him to McGovern, who was defeated for reelection after running one too many times.

14 posted on 12/11/2002 8:47:10 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: nospinzone
His chances of picking up Pennsylvania is slim and none. Specter will wipe the walls with whatever third-rate Democrat decides to run.
15 posted on 12/11/2002 9:01:22 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: JohnnyZ
Thanks JohnnyZ! This is the reason I created this post.

I think either Thune or Janklow would take the seat, but we first need to avoid a primary. To avoid the primary, one has to become AG Secretary. Which one do you think is stronger to take on Daschle. Janklow has the gravitas; Thune has the energy.

Too bad, Bush didn't deny South Dakota their idiotic farm protection; all the cheating in the world would not have saved Johnson then. Bush should have waited until after the election!
16 posted on 12/11/2002 9:03:29 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Thune is probably more popular in the state because Janklow is a very blunt guy and ticked off some folks as governor -- of course, he still ended up winning Rep. 53-46. I'm thinking Janklow will prevail, and would be a stronger candidate against Daschle at least -- he's very strong-willed. As the Argus Leader guy says, the D's don't have much to go with, unless they try Stephanie Herseth for Senate, but there's no reason to think SoDak would give her the nod either. Thune might be best off going back to Rep or taking an Admin job until Johnson's seat comes up again -- presumably Johnson will be an insignificant minority senator at that point, without Daschle to hold his hand and spoon-feed him legislation.

The Dakotas are a Big Deal this year, as Byron Dorgan and Earl Pomeroy are up in NoDak. This is the best year to finally take down what they call all-Democratic "Team North Dakota" and then smack down Kent Conrad in 2006.

17 posted on 12/11/2002 9:18:23 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ
Thanks. However, if Daschle doesn't run, then I want Thune to be our candidate.

If Daschle runs again, then we need someone with enough heft to beat him, and that means Janklow. No question.

I agree with you about North Dakota. We need to take out Pomeroy and Conrad. As long as the Dakotas send 4 Democrats to the Senate, we cannot have a solid majority. Get rid of those 4, and we have a majority for a generation.
18 posted on 12/11/2002 9:27:16 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
By my count, we can easily pick up the following seats:

North Dakota
South Dakota
Wisconsin
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
California

We also have excellent chances, if the DemoRAT retires, in Florida, Indiana, and Louisiana. If we play our cards right, and get rid of Trent Lott, we could have the near super-majority of which we have dreamed so long.

+10 seats should be our objective.
19 posted on 12/11/2002 9:33:32 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
By my count, we can easily pick up the following seats:

North Dakota
South Dakota
Wisconsin
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
California

We also have excellent chances, if the DemoRAT retires, in Florida, Indiana, and Louisiana. If we play our cards right, and get rid of Trent Lott, we could have the near super-majority of which we have dreamed so long.


Yeah, despite the debacle here in Louisiana I feel good about 2004 if Breaux steps down or becomes governor. The GOP will pick a solid frontrunner early on, I say Rep. Billy Tauzin will be tapped, if not him Vitter.
20 posted on 12/11/2002 10:21:14 AM PST by nospinzone
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To: nospinzone
Best of all, with Bush's probable numbers in the South,
we won't need as much money usually required to take so many seats:

On Bush's coattails, we could pick up:
South Dakota
North Dakota
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
Louisiana

Easily!
21 posted on 12/11/2002 10:24:53 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Whew, don't know about the "easily pick up" part -- we need good candidates!! I would add Nevada to that list of pickup opportunities.

Indiana's (Rat) Lt. Gov. has decided NOT to run for governor in 2004, which leaves a wide-open field -- there has been some speculation that Sen. Bayh might go back to governoring Indiana, in part because of the Senator's Curse (running for prez), but it's all very speculative. Otherwise Bayh will be running for senate again.

Speaking of retirement, can we retire Kay Bailey Hutchinson in 2006? I can think of a few guys named Bonilla and Paige who'd be great in that seat.

22 posted on 12/11/2002 10:29:42 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ
Damn! I forgot about Nevada. That is another near-certain pick-up.

YEAH! There will be a lot of former Demcratic Senators in 2005.

Reid, Conrad, Daschle, Edwards, Hollings, etc.
23 posted on 12/11/2002 10:37:54 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: JohnnyZ
HEY! We forgot Arkansas too! Huckabee will send Lincoln packing.

Okay. Let's take bets. How many Senate seats do we pick up?
24 posted on 12/11/2002 10:41:18 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Four net. 55 would be a nice round number. Asa Hutch. or Huck will give Lincoln a stiff test; I figure we may lose Illinois but no other incumbents, offset that loss by a retiree, and split the other close races, roughly. Hopefully Giuliani will decide to take out Schumer instead of waiting around for the governorship.

I like goals of 55 senators
235 Reps (leaves only 199 D's)
30 Guvnas
55 state legislative bodies (up from current 51 I think)
1 President
1 VP

25 posted on 12/11/2002 10:57:03 AM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ
Again, with Daschle and Edwards probably leaving, we would pick up those two seats. I think we will easily defeat Hollings and Reid. Give us another two. Miller will retire. Give us another seat. So, I think we start out + 5 to start, not counting competitive Dem seats in North Dakota, California, Wisconsin, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

I think we can do better than 5. Reagan picked up 12 in 1980 with the same group of Senators. Bush can do even better.

I'm not sure about New York. I'd love to see Giuliani run, but I'd prefer to keep in on hand for the Governorship in 2006. My dream is to have Pataki run against Clinton in 2006. I think it would send the carpetbagger to the only place she can win safely-DC. Oh, I'm sorry. They don't elect Senators.

I also think we will pick up the Governorships in Missouri, North Carolina, and Indiana. With the additions of Kentucky and Mississippi, add around 5 to our Governorships.

HEHEHEHEHEHE! I hope the economy really picks up by next year. If it does, we'll be delirious on election night.
26 posted on 12/11/2002 12:51:29 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
I'd like to hear more about North Dakota. Is it basically a copy of South Dakota, or more of a swing state? Think Dorgan could be toast?
27 posted on 12/11/2002 1:04:53 PM PST by nospinzone
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To: republicanwizard
Guys, guys, guys! Let's not get overconfident -- that's what happened after our victories in '94. I'll repeat my analysis of the most vulnerable seats in '04, although I posted all of this on the previous thread.

South Carolina - Hollings is toast; Reps. Joe Wilson or Jim DeMint will easily pick up the seat.

California - taking out Boxer is a priority; after sifting through several candidates, U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin seems like the best candidate.

Wisconsin - don't underestimate Feingold, but his integrity is his greatest weakness, as he did not take any PAC money in '98; Tommy Thompson would have a good chance at taking him out. The next-best candidate is Rep. Paul Ryan. If neither of them runs, though, I think that the Dems keep this seat.

Washington - Patty Murray is a clone of Boxer, but only one person has a chance against her, and that's Rep. Jennifer Dunn. Dunn is 61 and now is her best chance at achieving higher office, if that's what she wants.

North Carolina - I feel good about our likely candidate, Rep. Richard Burr, against Edwards, who has alienated voters with his national ambitions and criticism of President Bush.

Florida - Bob Graham should be a top target after questioning Bush's legitimacy in 2000. It is time for popular Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan to move on to bigger and better things.

Arkansas - after Landrieu's victory, Blanche Lincoln's prospects are looking much brighter; both Huck and Hutch look like strong candidates, but they both have weaknesses; this seat "leans DEM" but is a possibility.

New York - as a Buffalo resident, I like many of the things Schumer has done for our state, but I despise his extreme position on abortion. Giuliani is the only man who can take him out, though.

South Dakota - a disappointing performance by Thune is discouraging, but Tim Johnson ran an excellent campaign. A Thune-Daschle or Janklow-Daschle race would be competitive, but I think that Daschle will win if he runs again.

North Dakota - I like Byron Dorgan, but I'd like him better if he weren't in the Senate; former Gov. Ed Schafer has a chance of defeating him, but this is seat still "leans DEM".

Georgia - if Zell Miller runs again, he wins. If he doesn't run again, the seat is leans GOP; my personal favorite is Rep. Jack Kingston, a rising star.

Louisiana - ditto for Georgia -- John Breaux is the state's most popular politician, but if he retires, the seat will be up for grabs. Will Suzie Terrell run again? If not, Reps. Billy Tauzin or David Vitter.

Indiana - I think that Evan Bayh is unbeatable, but I would like to see Dan Quayle, who will be just 57, make a comeback, even if Bayh runs again.

Nevada - Harry Reid is nothing if not a survivor. I think he will win unless he faces popular Gov. Kenny Guinn, whom CATO ranked as the most fiscally responsible governor.

It's early, but I estimate a 1-3 seat gain for the GOP. Tomorrow: Republican seats.
28 posted on 12/11/2002 1:39:44 PM PST by Jeb08
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To: nospinzone
It's something of a SoDak twin (voted almost 2:1 for Bush, GOP controls state legislature about 2:1), but the D's have managed to get hold of the entire federal delegation (Sen's Dorgan, Conrad, Rep Pomeroy) and have had success with the 'team' concept. NoDak has a GOP governor, John Hoeven, who's up for reelection in 2004.

The big issues in NoDak are farming and the stagnant non-farming economy, which results in the young folks moving away for jobs. Former Gov. Ed Schafer is unofficially running against Byron Dorgan in 2004.

29 posted on 12/11/2002 1:39:55 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: JohnnyZ
THANKS FOR THAT POLL! That is not so bad considering that it is where Johnson was in a worse position than Schafer is in now.

That race is winnable. What is going on in North Dakota and South Dakota is also happening in Minnesota. You have a group over 65 which was raised in the era of Roosevelt, Truman, and Humphrey. They voted heavily Democrat, but their children, and especially their grandchildren vote heavily Republican. Within 10 years, those four Senate seats should be ours!

Perhaps within two years, we shall have half our work completed.
30 posted on 12/11/2002 3:42:45 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
THANKS FOR THAT POLL! That is not so bad considering that it is where Johnson was in a worse position than Schafer is in now.

That race is winnable. What is going on in North Dakota and South Dakota is also happening in Minnesota. You have a group over 65 which was raised in the era of Roosevelt, Truman, and Humphrey. They voted heavily Democrat, but their children, and especially their grandchildren vote heavily Republican. Within 10 years, those four Senate seats should be ours!

Perhaps within two years, we shall have half our work completed.


That'd be great! I have noticed somewhat of a GOP drift over the years in that region. Minnesota has had its share of GOP senators recently (Grams, Boschwitz, Durenberger, now Coleman). Breaking through the Dems hold on North Dakota will be a biggie but I'm sure we can do it. We also need to get to work cracking the Dems hold on West Virgina and Louisiana.
31 posted on 12/11/2002 4:46:22 PM PST by nospinzone
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To: nospinzone
One DEM race I forgot - Connecticut - Chris Dodd is favored to be re-elected, but if he retires to run for president, the seat will be up for grabs. State GOP Chair Chris DePino will likely face Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D) in that race; otherwise it is safe DEM.
32 posted on 12/12/2002 7:33:08 AM PST by Jeb08
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To: JohnnyZ; BillyBoy; RedWing9; unspun; republicanwizard
Chicago Sun Times 12/12/02. Columnist Lynn Sweet is as left as her colleague Steve Neal. But she's in touch with reality, more fair and a better writer.

Full article at
http://www.suntimes.com/output/sweet/cst-edt-sweet12.html

No detente for Fitzgerald, LaHood After reading the news on Nov. 25 that Rep. Ray LaHood (R-Ill.) was looking around to find an opponent to run against him, Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Ill.) phoned him a few days later to ask for a meeting.........

"I take a harder look at project requests,'' said Fitzgerald.

"He hopefully will work more with us,'' said LaHood.

Translation.
Fitz opposes increased spending for welfare/pork for the rich.
For LaHood, that is the raison d'etre

33 posted on 12/12/2002 10:13:19 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Jeb08; spintreebob
Looks like natural openings for the GOP in South Carolina, and depending on contingencies, Louisiana (if no Breaux) and Indiana (if Quayle). Attrition will be a big factor, eh?

spintreebob, as for Illinois, where I live, if Fitzgerald pays attention to his boss, the voters, this may become a good siren call for conservatives to rise up on our own two feet in Illinois (what a concept!) this time, hopefully, for good.

Also, let's hope that Trent Lott finds something better to do than ML in the next few days.
34 posted on 12/12/2002 11:49:07 AM PST by unspun
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To: spintreebob; unspun; republicanwizard
Article on Sen. Harry Reid in Nevada and his reelection chances. Pro-abortion Rep. Jay Gibbons is mentioned as a possible challenger (he does have a 94% pro-life rating -- guess he supports a lot of limits and such on abortion, but generally supports it.) It is also possible that Gov. Kenny Guinn could run (he's also mixed on abortion) but he and Sen. Ensign might switch seats in 2006.
35 posted on 12/12/2002 1:09:55 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: republicanwizard
If Daschle runs again, then we need someone with enough heft to beat him...

I strongly object to the word 'heft' being used in any way to characterize Dasshole!

36 posted on 12/12/2002 3:32:29 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Was there a reason you signed up on September 12, 2001?

No, but Janklow, with 16 years as Governor, is just as much an established figure as Puff Daschle.
37 posted on 12/12/2002 6:24:13 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Isn't Arlan Sphincter is a big RINO.
38 posted on 12/12/2002 8:03:38 PM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: the irate magistrate
NO.

How many times do I have to tell you. He is not a RINO, and he is one of our President's biggest supporters.

He never misses a trip with the President to Pennsylvania, and he is an icon in state politics.

Please, I know he sometimes disappoints you, but he is really a great guy with a conservative heart. When push comes to shove, he is always there.
39 posted on 12/12/2002 8:20:55 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Was there a reason you signed up on September 12, 2001?

I'm not sure why you're interested in the why behind the when I signed up. But, I seem to recall initially signing up in 2000 (if not before), but not being able to login on this computer. As 9/12/02 was a big news day, I assume I re-signed up from this computer on that date. I now regularly access FR via this account from both the computers that I regularly use.

No, but Janklow, with 16 years as Governor, is just as much an established figure as Puff Daschle.

I just find it hard to believe that SoDaks would regard Puff as someone with heft. I'll admit he's established, but I see him as an established unAmerican. SoDaks should be ashamed to be responsible for his presence in the Senate.

40 posted on 12/12/2002 10:04:06 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: republicanwizard
After I've seen his actions over the years I could swear that he's a big RINO.
41 posted on 12/13/2002 8:04:07 AM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: CreekerFreeper; Fred Mertz; SLB; pocat
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42 posted on 12/13/2002 8:08:44 AM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: JohnnyZ
Kay in '06? If Rick Perry want's to switch with her. Kay wants to come back and be guv. Big Q is does Rick want a second term as guv?
43 posted on 12/13/2002 8:43:36 AM PST by CPT Clay
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To: CPT Clay
Kay in '06? If Rick Perry want's to switch with her. Kay wants to come back and be guv. Big Q is does Rick want a second term as guv?

Well IMHO two years, was two to many years of Rick Perry. I just hope that he retires becuase he would be a horrible Senator. Also there are some rumors that Caryole Keeton Rylander will run for Gov, next go around. The thing is that she could win a primary against Perry.
44 posted on 12/13/2002 10:00:43 AM PST by jf55510
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To: republicanwizard
Specter has a lifetime rating of 42 from the American Conservative Union. He joined Chaffee and Jeffords in opposing Bush's original tax cut. He voted against confirming Robert Bork. He is pro-abortion. If this is your definintion of a "conservative heart" who is "always there" for President Bush, then you are on the wrong web site. Specter must go.

45 posted on 12/13/2002 11:02:04 AM PST by Jeb08
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To: Jeb08
He was also President Bush's spear-thrower on Homeland Security, and he saved the nomination of Clarence Thomas with his skills at exposing liar.

If he voted not proven on impeachment, then I congratulate him. No man who served as District Attorney of Philadelphia could have voted guilty or not guilty in a sham trial which called no witnesses. How could anyone vote guilty or not guilty in right conscience?

I would have opposed Bork for the same reason I oppose Lott. I don't like naive Republicans.

I'll be proud to support Senator Arlen Specter for a fifth term in the United States Senate!
46 posted on 12/13/2002 12:24:15 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Another reason I don't like Specter -- he refused to go to the mat for Bush during the 2000 recount. A CNN debate featured John Breaux demanding that the votes be recounted, while Specter refused to even endorse the Republicans' position. I believe that Specter is a good man, but he is the epitome of wishy-washy politically correct moderation. I applaud him for going to the mat for Clarence Thomas, but his support of Clinton and opposition to Bork equal a man who is more in line with Daschle than with Bush.

As long as we're on the subject of primary challenges, I wish to begin to campaign to get rid of John McCain. I hope you're not a fan of his too, Wiz.
47 posted on 12/13/2002 12:52:55 PM PST by Jeb08
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To: Jeb08
Arlen and many Republicans were upset that they were embarrassed that they didn't carry Pennsylvania for Bush. Specter publically stated that Ridge would have made his job easier, so he might have been bitter at that point.

Suffice it to say that as a PA Republican, I've didn't appreciate Dick Cheney until the Veep debate.

As far as McCain goes, I'd let him run again if he wants. I would hope he retires if he is challenged by a serious candidate in the primary, but the last thing I want is to lose that seat to the RATS. Better McCain than any Democrat!
48 posted on 12/13/2002 12:56:35 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: jf55510
Yeah, I don't know much about Rick Perry, but it seems like Texas is the perfect place to get a really top-notch high-power senator into office, and if he's a minority too so much the better. I'm not a big fan of Kay Bailey Hutch. But we don't need a powerhouse candidate to win in Texas, so we don't need the governor running if he's not the best we can do.
49 posted on 12/13/2002 2:01:16 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: republicanwizard
Mosley-Braun Tells Daschle she WILL Run for her old senate seat in Illinois, against (presumably) Peter Fitzgerald! This is good news, because she could very well win the primary and would be a relatively weak general election candidate. Sweet :) Another link from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution: " Braun, who is now teaching at DePaul University, told us she may run again for the Senate from Illinois."
50 posted on 12/13/2002 2:22:42 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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