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Did E-Vote Firm Patch Election?
Wired ^ | 02:00 AM Oct. 13, 2003 PT | By Kim Zetter

Posted on 10/13/2003 8:23:42 AM PDT by GirlyGirl2003

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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Diebold Election Systems has had a tumultuous year, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.

Last January the electronic voting machine maker faced public embarrassment when voting activists revealed the company's insecure FTP server was making its software source code available for everyone to see.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; electronicvoting; government; vote; voting
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1 posted on 10/13/2003 8:23:43 AM PDT by GirlyGirl2003
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To: GirlyGirl2003
He who controls the count controls the vote. 'Nuff said.
2 posted on 10/13/2003 8:34:46 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Every intelligence service in the world, and lots of hackers, are going to work diligently to rig our computer voting results.
4 posted on 10/13/2003 8:36:38 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Politician, lawyer, journalist.... when you lie for a living)
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To: archy; Eastbound
"Road to Civil War" ping.
5 posted on 10/13/2003 8:42:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
"It's hard to track down a problem when you go out to your car and the first time it starts, the next time the headlights don't work, the next time you start it the brakes are out, and the next time you start it the door falls off," Behler said. "That's really the way they were."

Sounds like they're running the software on Windows.

6 posted on 10/13/2003 8:44:07 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
I thought we weren't supposed to post articles from Wired.
7 posted on 10/13/2003 8:44:19 AM PDT by Pest
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I don't think Wired articles are allowed...
8 posted on 10/13/2003 8:46:12 AM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: mvpel
Sounds like they're running the software on Windows.

WinCE 3.0, to be exact.

9 posted on 10/13/2003 8:47:47 AM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Electronic Voting sounds like the best thing since The Honorable Richard J.Daley got Chicago's DEAD to vote!!!
10 posted on 10/13/2003 8:50:27 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Electronic voting machines should only be tools to PRINT a completed ballot. It should not be used to submit electronic ballots.

BTW, what is wrong with this statement:

It was the first time an incumbent governor had not won his second term since Georgia law allowed back-to-back terms in 1978.

11 posted on 10/13/2003 8:55:23 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.)
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To: Travis McGee
FYI, the other side is and has been all worked up about black box voting for some time. They consider it an evil Republican/conservative cheating scandal. Bev Harris as referenced in the article is an evil DUer. They would be amazed that us stupid, knuckledragger, right-wing Freepers are just as concerned about electronic voting as the ultra-intelligent, caring, elite cosmopolitan DU crowd. /barf*

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12 posted on 10/13/2003 9:00:50 AM PDT by Sender
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To: GirlyGirl2003
As for Behler, Williams said he's a disgruntled employee

Does somebody write a script that all beleagured companies use? I mean, this line was so predictable it's pathetic!

13 posted on 10/13/2003 9:02:53 AM PDT by irv
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To: Travis McGee
Designing the logic and writing the code for simple counters can be done by any first-year programming student. The hard part is obscuring what the voting software is really doing in hidden sub-routines.
14 posted on 10/13/2003 9:04:19 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Interesting.
The RATS pushed for electronic voting, then flaws were found in it.
Wonder how long it will be until they scream that the vote was rigged electronically?
15 posted on 10/13/2003 9:07:33 AM PDT by Darksheare (Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the Nun.)
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To: Eastbound
Hidden subroutine:

10 - If a > b, then let c = a - b
20 - Let a = a - c
30 - Let b = b + c
40 - Break out champagne

16 posted on 10/13/2003 9:16:18 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: mvpel
Sounds like they're running the software on Windows.
Actually yes they are!!! Worse yet they're using Mirco$oft Access, with disabled security features.
17 posted on 10/13/2003 9:27:12 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy
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To: Travis McGee; johnny7; archy; harpseal; Squantos; Joe Brower; wardaddy; Eaker; Mulder; Noumenon
"Road to Civil War" ping.

Yep. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if things come to a head over the discovery of widespread vote fraud.

After all, if voting really could change anything, it wouldn't be allowed.

-archy-/-

18 posted on 10/13/2003 9:33:08 AM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Darksheare
Wonder how long it will be until they scream that the vote was rigged electronically?

Eastern District of Missouri, 1988 election to present. Check it out. US versus Lawless et al.

This has been getting ready to break for a couple of years now.... But maybe it wouldn't be real smart for them to complain too loudly. It upsets those in BOTH parties who put the fix in.

-archy-/-

19 posted on 10/13/2003 9:45:13 AM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Eastbound; Travis McGee; archy
As Eastbound stated all one is doing is counting votes this is an incredibly simple piece of code. The key question is why does one need all these subroutines. audit trails could be saved electronically by keeping a record of the vote that could be recounted. It is all simple code. it all should be straight forwardly made available to the public. The only security mecessary would be for machines talking to each otehr but even that could be easily isolated from teh rest of the system.
20 posted on 10/13/2003 11:08:58 AM PDT by harpseal (stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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