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New alert from the Homeland Security Department
Fox News Channel | October 14, 2003

Posted on 10/14/2003 12:49:52 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty

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To: BearWash
Isn't this info from the detainees kinda old?

61 posted on 10/14/2003 1:33:30 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
I'd imagine so... how long have they been detained for?
62 posted on 10/14/2003 1:34:19 PM PDT by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Dallas59
Does Tom *Tom* Ridge have any political ambitions?
63 posted on 10/14/2003 1:35:29 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Jammz
Two years, I believe.
65 posted on 10/14/2003 1:36:01 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
Hey, while we're on the topic of Fox news flashes, did you know that the cold war's over, Iraq's been liberated and we've got troops in Afghanistan? haha
66 posted on 10/14/2003 1:37:56 PM PDT by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Yesenia
Thanks for the info. I will try it. As you can tell I am not just real picky about my hair. I told the styles who does my hair just don't shave it all off otherwise you can do anything you want too. :)
67 posted on 10/14/2003 1:45:01 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Jammz
When did this all happen?
68 posted on 10/14/2003 1:47:00 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: BearWash
I am turning gray but I haven’t gotten to the mustache and beard point..... Yet. ;)
69 posted on 10/14/2003 1:51:43 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: pawdoggie
Al-Qaeda's evil, mean, cruel, and delusional but not smart. They buy technology with oil money they wouldn't have without western technology and assistance. If they hit us at home, it'll be time to take the gloves off...

What amazed me was a recent article which said Al-Qaeda was trying to think of ways to "calm" passengers of any airliner they might hijack (so as to convince them that they weren't really going to crash the plane; just fly it around the White House a couple of times to make their point).

70 posted on 10/14/2003 1:53:36 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Dallas59
Isn't this info from the detainees kinda old?

Yeah. This does sound familiar, doesn't it?
71 posted on 10/14/2003 1:59:16 PM PDT by California74
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To: GOPJ
If "they" do hit us again....What are we going do?

Put another color up?
72 posted on 10/14/2003 1:59:51 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: California74
For a long time I was wondering how the detainees in Cuba could possibly be aware of relevant information about fresh plans for new, developing operations . . . that was before I realized that the Government had been supplying them with corrupt Chaplains and who knows what other secret info sources . . . Why can we not, for once, just be strict about something? . . . Why keep the detainees phyically isolated in Cuba if we don't intend to keep them truly isolated? Or is this all part of some intelligence game I just don't understand?
73 posted on 10/14/2003 2:09:09 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Dog
Things might get active between now and Ramadan and the Administration knows it.
74 posted on 10/14/2003 2:33:39 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
This year's Ramadan is a big deal for the true believers. As an American citizen we need to know that the enemy has a real need to see something happen before Ramadan. We need to be on alert when traveling etc. We need to treat the next two weeks like the two weeks immediately after 9-11. Remember how everyone was on their toes. Not saying it'll thwart an attack, just saying it's better to be alert and prepared until Ramadan get's started.

I don't think they'll do an attack after Ramadan starts. It get's too logistically difficult. People who fast during the day are not real active people.
75 posted on 10/14/2003 2:39:26 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
This year's Ramadan is a big deal for the true believers.

When isn't it a big deal?

Having said that, this post from yesterday, makes me a bit uneasy. Check out post #6 .
76 posted on 10/14/2003 2:46:12 PM PDT by lelio
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To: kinghorse
This year's Ramadan is a big deal for the true believers. As an American citizen we need to know that the enemy has a real need to see something happen before Ramadan.

Why is this year's Ramadan different from others? By the way, First of Ramadan is October 26th this year.
77 posted on 10/14/2003 2:46:48 PM PDT by California74
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To: snopercod
"OMG! Gotta' buy more duct tape and visqueen!

Huh? We were supposed to take it down?!? /sarcasm

78 posted on 10/14/2003 3:18:35 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Tree of Liberty
Rumor has it that the eclipses during Ramadan 2003 is significant to Bin Laden in his attempt to declare himself the Mahdi of Islam. ( courtesy Lamplighter - extremely lengthy- full article here: http://www.lampholderpub.com/new_page_22.htm)

Excerpt:
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Ramadan, the Islamic holy month, begins October 27 through November 25, 2003. To peaceful, devout Muslims, this is a time of prayer and reflection, but to "extremists," Ramadan heralds a call to "jihad."

Ramadan is a time when Muslims around the world adhere to a strict regime of fasting (sawm), prayer, and abstinence from sensual pleasures. Muslims are required to follow the Five Pillars of Faith: (1) Shahada (the creed of affirmation); a prayer that states, "There is nothing worthy of worship save Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God; (2) Salat, (prayer), to worship Allah in prayer five times each day, praying in the direction of Mecca; (3) Zakat (giving) the duty to distribute help to the poor and needy; (4) Siyam (fasting), to keep the Fast of Ramadan; and (5) Hajj (the pilgrimage), to make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in a lifetime.

As reported in the November 2001-2002, Lampholder Newsletters, the upcoming months from Ramadan 2002 to Ramadan (1424) in November of 2003, may be one of the most prophetic events for Muslims. This time-period will usher in a very important phase in Islamic tradition.

It was during Ramadan when the angel Gabriel appeared to Muhammad, and when Muhammad first received the revelation of the Qur'an. According to Islamic tradition, many Muslims are expecting a significant and extraordinary event. This Ramadan may heighten the expectations of a major prophetic event that could very well unfold when "two total eclipses" occur during Ramadan 2003. Some Muslims believe this time-period may usher in the appearance of the "Twelfth Imam." A double-eclipse is a major sign that a genuine modern-day Imam (precursor to a prophet) will emerge; but not without a bloody struggle first. The struggle may just begin during Ramadan.

Sadly, it is a well-known fact that some of the worst massacres, persecutions, and assassinations have occurred during what was supposed to be a month of doing good to others. For those involved in "the struggle," the requirement of day-long fasting is waived. In fact, it is not forbidden to make war, commit acts of terrorism, or enter into conflict during Ramadan. Fighting is not forbidden during Ramadan - it all just depends on "who" is doing the fighting. If the Muslims fight against the Infidels, it is permissible, but the Infidels must not fight against the "true" Muslims. All of the Islamic struggles have been for the sake of Allah, and driving the Infidels or occupiers "out of Muslim lands." --BUT the problem may just be in the definition/interpretation of "just what are Muslim territories?" Here's a hint: using a globe of the world, place your finger anywhere - including the United States and Israel.

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Also this snippet here about Bin Laden recently from Worldnetdaily (www.worldnetdaily.com):

FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN Is bin Laden the 'Mahdi'? Some Muslim followers believe he is prophesied 'awaited enlightened one'

Posted: September 8, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com – a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for the last 25 years.

U.S. military intelligence experts are studying a video clip of Osama bin Laden in which he stands before a dry-erase board with an Arabic phrase written upon it – "awaited enlightened one," reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

No one who has seen the video is quite certain of the meaning or the context. But, the Hadith, a collection of Islamic holy writings that supplement the Quran, predicts a messianic figure will arise in the last days of history. This "Mahdi," along with the "Prophet Jesus," will lead the believers to victory over the infidels.

The video raises the question of whether bin Laden sees himself as this Mahdi or if he is expecting another to arise and lead. Either way, the addition of a dimension of Islamic prophecy to the global terror war may seriously complicate matters for planners in the West, G2 Bulletin reports.

According to G2 Bulletin's military sources, some of the detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay have told interrogators they joined bin Laden's al-Qaida offensive because they think he is the "awaited enlightened one." Others in military intelligence say some of the terrorists crossing the border into Iraq with al-Qaida ties are doing so because of their belief in this Islamic prophecy.

Muslim believers – both Sunni and Shiite – expect the Mahdi to return one day to restore justice to the world. This messenger is not as great as Muhammad, but is a messianic figure found in all branches of Islam.

Interestingly, since the end of 2001, bin Laden has been signing his name "Osama bin Muhammad bin Laden," rather than just Osama bin Laden. This is significant, reports G2 Bulletin, because it gives the al-Qaida leader an apocalyptic dimension. The Hadith says the Mahdi will be recognizable, among other things, by the fact that he carries the name of the Prophet.

"Al Mahdi" is supposed to appear at a time when Muslim believers are severely oppressed in every corner of the world. He will fight the oppressors, unite the Muslims, bring peace and justice to the world, rule over the Arabs, and lead a prayer in Mecca at which Jesus will be present.

While some Islamic analysts have expected bin Laden to declare himself as "caliph," few have speculated about the possibility of the terrorist upping the ante. Operating as he does without a territorial base, bin Ladin could, some suggest, resort to claiming the most powerful title in Islam – the Mahdi.

The Mahdi is one of two positive prophetic figures who, according to Islamic teachings, will appear at the end of time – Prophet Jesus being the other. Together, these two will combat unbelievers and the forces of evil: the antichrist-like Dajjal, or "Deceiver"; the Dabbah, or "Beast"; and the murderous, rapacious hordes of Yajuj wa-Majuj, who appear earlier in the Bible as "Gog and Magog."

The description of the Mahdi that emerges from these Islamic sources can be summarized as follows:

he will be descended from the Prophet via his daughter Fatima;

he will have the same name as the Prophet, and his father's name will have been the same as the Prophet's father;

he will have a distinct forehead and prominent nose;

he will be extremely generous and altruistic;

he will arise in Arabia and be compelled by popular acclamation in Mecca to lead the Muslims;

he will withstand attack by an army from Syria, which will be swallowed up by the desert;

he will fill the earth with justice and equity;

he will reign for five, seven or nine years, perhaps as co-ruler with Jesus (after which, an unspecified amount of time later, the last trumpet will sound and the final judgment will ensue).

If bin Ladin – or some other Islamist leader – were to declare himself the Mahdi, should that make a difference to U.S. policy-makers? Yes.

If the claim were believable to the Islamic world, then the U.S. could no longer claim to be fighting terrorism alone. Indeed, it would become a global religious conflict.

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Its just more than a little coincidental, isnt it?
79 posted on 10/14/2003 3:21:08 PM PDT by judicial meanz (Happy Birthday, US Navy. May many more follow.)
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To: Paul L. Hepperla
Feds Warn of New Terror Attacks in U.S.

FNC

FBI, Department of Homeland Security say Al Qaeda militants may be poised for strikes against American targets abroad and at home; authorities are not raising alert status

80 posted on 10/14/2003 3:23:04 PM PDT by blam
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