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Ancient Corncobs Unlock Riddle
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| 10-14-2003
| Mike Toner
Posted on 10/14/2003 3:41:39 PM PDT by blam
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10/14/2003 3:41:39 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
So, how much for a taco?
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posted on
10/14/2003 3:48:50 PM PDT
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To: battlegearboat
"So, how much for a taco?" 39 centavos.
I would suggest the tortilla chips and picante sauce. The tacos are meatless.
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:09:36 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
I thought for a minute this corncob report was going somewhere else! Save for later read.
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:10:22 PM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(Liberalism is a Sin!)
To: blam
"Ancient Corncobs Unlock Riddle"Yes, it's true. They were found up the rear ends of the skeletal remains of Liberals. 'Twas always such, it seems.
To: blam
Anyone know what the urban Chaco people did for a living? Did they produce some good or service to exchange for the food?
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:25:13 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: SwinneySwitch
I thought it was going to answer the riddle of what people did before Sears.
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:27:36 PM PDT
by
js1138
To: decimon
"Anyone know what the urban Chaco people did for a living? Did they produce some good or service to exchange for the food?" There are/were a lot of kivas/religious functions at Chaco. Maybe they were donations.(?)
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:34:37 PM PDT
by
blam
To: decimon
Chetro Ketl (notice the large kiva, it's the round thing)
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:38:54 PM PDT
by
blam
To: decimon
I suspect they agreed not to kill the peasants for food. Not killing peasants-a very useful service to the peasants.
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:43:31 PM PDT
by
seowulf
To: seowulf
Not killing peasants-a very useful service to the peasants. I am sure the peasants thought so. However I suspect that blam is right. A lot of religious activity went on in at Chaco. And a lot of astronomy.
How much would you give to have some one tell you the best time to plant (short growing season) and pray for rain? A tenth of your crop? Likely there was also a bit of barter as well and protection from other groups.
There was something out there that scared the tail feathers off of them. Real or imaginary that was one scared bunch at the end.
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posted on
10/14/2003 4:54:45 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Ignore the propaganda, focus on what you see.)
To: blam
I suppose all of that had to be excavated. Amazing stuff.
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:30:20 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: seowulf
I suspect they agreed not to kill the peasants for food. Not killing peasants-a very useful service to the peasants.Yeah, that might provide me some motivation. But it would be interesting to know if the townfolk produced something. Homo economus or homo tyrannus.
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:35:04 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: Harmless Teddy Bear; seowulf; decimon
Christy Turner has done some very good work in the Chaco Area and nearly got the crap beat out of him. Read Below:
Bones Of Contention
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:46:15 PM PDT
by
blam
To: decimon
The peasants are still sending the corn to the blow hards.
Ten thousand years from now Archaeologists will be wondering how Washingtonians fed themselves with all the concrete covering the arable land.
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:50:58 PM PDT
by
Sentis
To: Harmless Teddy Bear; decimon; seowulf
BTW, Most recently, Turner has located a mummified corpolite (turd) from the Chaco period that contains digested human protein. (That shut up everyone)
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:54:28 PM PDT
by
blam
To: decimon
I've got to check my old sources on this.
From what I remember in the 80s, when they were discovering and mapping all the old roads, there was a problem. There wasn't enough garbage at these sites - the midden or dump was too small. An explanation offered at that time was that people came to these sites for seasonal ceremonies and that the rest of the time not many people lived there. Don't know if that ever got worked out, but the problem of not enough garbage for the population the size of the structures implied was clear.
Now I read that a few corn cobs have been tested to be from 50 miles away. That could be the case if people normally lived in the farm sites and then brought the corn to Chaco when they went there.
So, just because the corn is from far away doesn't mean that a huge population lived in Chaco full time.
The news article might not have all this info, but I will look for the report.
Interestingly, when I was in Chaco in 83 (or 81) at the same time as a conference, one of the archaeologists commented on how you could still look out at land and see the places where there were fields in the past because the soil was poorer there (had still not recovered). It looked that way to me also, but when you see how far apart the Hopis plant their corn compared to normal farmers, a small field would not grow much corn anyway.
Thanks for the post.
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:54:59 PM PDT
by
billl
To: blam
Cornucobia corn of plenty
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posted on
10/14/2003 5:59:01 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: blam
PEOPLE FROM ALL over the world have admired the culture of the ancient Anasazi, believing them to have been deeply spiritual. But what if that peaceful image is wrong? DANG but this kind of writing annoys me!
"Deeply spiritual" does NOT equal peaceful!
Carthaginians, Aztecs, Pawnee, Celts were all deeply spiritual. They were not, however, peaceful or even nice.
It is very possible for the Anasazi to be artistic and deeply spiritual and still be the most savage cruel sadistic demons in human form to ever walk on planet earth.
/rant.
I agree with Turner for the most part I will have to read more of his work to see if I totally agree.
The problem I have always had with the "peaceful people" bit is how they built their houses. You don't build houses where they did unless you have enemies. You don't build your home in such a way that a granny with a sharp stick can defend it unless you think that it could be necessary. You don't booby trap your ladders so that starting up the wrong way leaves you hanging hopelessly stuck until you fall to your death unless you expect something real nasty to come calling.
Something out there scared them.
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posted on
10/14/2003 6:37:10 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Ignore the propaganda, focus on what you see.)
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