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Iranian Alert -- October 15, 2003 -- IRAN LIVE THREAD PING LIST
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 10.15.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 10/15/2003 12:12:08 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

The US media almost entirely ignores news regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Tony Snow of the Fox News Network has put it, “this is probably the most under-reported news story of the year.” But most American’s are unaware that the Islamic Republic of Iran is NOT supported by the masses of Iranians today. Modern Iranians are among the most pro-American in the Middle East.

There is a popular revolt against the Iranian regime brewing in Iran today. Starting June 10th of this year, Iranians have begun taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change. Most want to replace the regime with a secular democracy. Many even want the US to over throw their government.

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movement in Iran from being reported. Unfortunately, the regime has successfully prohibited western news reporters from covering the demonstrations. The voices of discontent within Iran are sometime murdered, more often imprisoned. Still the people continue to take to the streets to demonstrate against the regime.

In support of this revolt, Iranians in America have been broadcasting news stories by satellite into Iran. This 21st century news link has greatly encouraged these protests. The regime has been attempting to jam the signals, and locate the satellite dishes. Still the people violate the law and listen to these broadcasts. Iranians also use the Internet and the regime attempts to block their access to news against the regime. In spite of this, many Iranians inside of Iran read these posts daily to keep informed of the events in their own country.

This daily thread contains nearly all of the English news reports on Iran. It is thorough. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary. The news stories and commentary will from time to time include material from the regime itself. But if you read the post you will discover for yourself, the real story of what is occurring in Iran and its effects on the war on terror.

I am not of Iranian heritage. I am an American committed to supporting the efforts of those in Iran seeking to replace their government with a secular democracy. I am in contact with leaders of the Iranian community here in the United States and in Iran itself.

If you read the daily posts you will gain a better understanding of the US war on terrorism, the Middle East and why we need to support a change of regime in Iran. Feel free to ask your questions and post news stories you discover in the weeks to come.

If all goes well Iran will be free soon and I am convinced become a major ally in the war on terrorism. The regime will fall. Iran will be free. It is just a matter of time.


PS I have a daily ping list and a breaking news ping list. If you would like to receive alerts to these stories please let me know which list you would like to join.

TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iaea; iran; iranianalert; protests; southasia; studentmovement; studentprotest
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I'm wondering if Ledeen's prediction of a nuke test within a few months will come true?
5 posted on 10/15/2003 1:52:17 AM PDT by risk
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Iran: Thousands Greet Nobel Prize Winner In Tehran

14 October 2003 (RFE/RL)

-- Several thousand Iranians, mostly women, today greeted Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi when she arrived in Tehran.

Immediately after stepping off the plane, Ebadi called for the freeing of political prisoners.

Ebadi won the award on 10 October for her work in Iran defending the rights of women and children. Before her departure from Paris for Tehran, she expressed hope that the consequences of her work will reach beyond Iran.

"I hope the message from my country, which is a peace-loving country that hates war and cruelty, reaches the world."

Iranian President Mohammad Khatami today said that the Nobel committee's decision to honor Ebadi was based on political considerations.

Khatami said the Nobel Peace Prize is not very important. He also reminded Ebadi to use her achievement in the interests of Iran.
6 posted on 10/15/2003 3:01:58 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Californication...!)
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Straw hints at military action against Iran

Hi Pakistan Daily

LONDON: British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said on Tuesday he wanted the standoff over Iran’s nuclear programme resolved peacefully but did not rule out possible military action.

Asked in parliament if he ruled out such action if Iran did not cooperate with the UN nuclear watchdog, Straw said: "We wish to see this matter resolved peacefully. I’m not going to predict what is going to happen except to say we have adopted a consistent approach in respect of Iran."

"The UK government has frequent contact with the government of Iran on this subject and we’ve made clear our serious concerns," Straw told parliament. "We’ve also made clear our wish that Iran must maintain complete transparency about its nuclear programmes and comply fully with the demands set out by the IAEA board of governors resolution on December 12."

The IAEA on Tuesday told Iran an October 31 deadline to clear up allegations that it is seeking nuclear weapons stood firm, as IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei prepared to leave for Tehran. The stern warning came after the Iranian opposition gave details on a secret nuclear installation where it claims the regime is enriching uranium with a view to producing atomic weapons.

IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming told AFP: "There are two phases to our work. The first phase involves Iran providing all the information to us on unresolved questions no later than October 31." Fleming said the second phase entailed verification of the information provided by Tehran.

ElBaradei, IAEA’s Secretary-General, was due to arrive in Tehran for a visit on Thursday on invitation of the Islamic republic. The inspectors’ concerns focus in particular on traces of highly enriched uranium found on two samples they took from a nuclear site in Natanz.
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UN wants access to Iran military sites - diplomats


VIENNA, Oct. 15 — The U.N. nuclear watchdog asked to look at military sites in Iran as part of its investigation to determine if Iran has a secret atomic weapons programme as the United States alleges, diplomats said on Wednesday.
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UK: Iran Must Come Clean About Nuclear Plans

October 14, 2003
The Jerusalem Post

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw did not rule out the use of military sanctions against Iran should the Islamic Republic fail to disclose the full extent of its nuclear program to the UN's International Atomic Agency by the end of the month.

The IAEA's board of governors earlier this month set the deadline for Iran to prove that its atomic programs are peaceful as Tehran says they are.

Tory David Ruffley asked Straw if he would confirm that if Iran did not comply with the IAEA deadline, he would continue to rule out the threat of military sanctions against Iran.

The Foreign Secretary replied: "We wish to see this matter resolved peacefully. I'm not going to predict what is going to happen except to say we have adopted a consistent approach in respect of Iran."

If Iran is found to be violating the treaty banning the spread of nuclear weapons, the UN Security Council could order economic and political sanctions.

Mr. Straw told MPs that the UK Government has made clear it's "serious concerns" about Iran's nuclear development.

"We've also made clear our wish that Iran must maintain complete transparency about its nuclear programs and comply fully with the demands set out by the IAEA board of governors resolution on December 12," Straw added.
10 posted on 10/15/2003 7:13:41 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Iranian Nobel Prize Winner Receives Hero's Welcome

October 15, 2003
The Guardian
Dan De Luce

Nobel Peace prize winner Shirin Ebadi received an emotional reception last night as thousands of Iranians greeted the human rights lawyer with chants of "Hello Freedom!"

"This prize is not mine, it belongs to our people," Ms Ebadi told the jubilant crowd over a megaphone after arriving on a flight from Paris.

"This prize means that Iran's desire for realising human rights, democracy and peace has been heard by the world," she said to roars of approval from the crowd.

In a spontaneous demonstration of sympathy with Ms Ebadi's struggle for civil rights and freedom of expression, Iranians of all ages and background gathered at Tehran airport to celebrate.

"I feel so grateful. I can't explain it," said a 45-year-old woman called Shabnam. "We feel somehow that someone is going to explain to the world what is in our hearts."

Ms Ebadi became the first Iranian and the first Muslim woman to win the Nobel last Friday. She was welcomed by Vice-President Mohammad Ali Abtahi, but earlier yesterday President Mohammad Khatami belittled the Nobel winner, describing the prize as "not very important". The president, who has portrayed himself as a champion of democracy and reform, asked: "Do we have to issue an official message about whatever happens in the country? In my opinion, the Nobel peace prize is not very important."

"Of course, the prize on literature is important, but the one for peace is not," he said. He was happy that an Iranian had received the award, but hoped that the recipient would bear in mind the interest of the Islamic world and Iran and "not allow the position she has achieved to be exploited".

Mr Khatami's critics dismiss him as too weak to fight Iran's rigid theocracy, and last night his comments were ridiculed by Ms Ebadi's supporters: "The world understood this prize but our own officials didn't understand it," said Nahid, a 30-year-old woman.

"I am optimistic because this prize provides a degree of security for Ms Ebadi and this will bring an opportunity to bring up women's issues in a more radical way," she said.

Young Iranians danced and led renditions of the pre-revolution national anthem as they waited for Ms Ebadi to emerge from the airport terminal. Women in the crowd wore white headscarves and carried white flowers, symbolising peace, in an event organised largely by word of mouth.

"This shows the world has heard our voices after 24 years of imprisonment," said Kefayat Kousha, 38, a school teacher. "People are hopeful again."

As a lawyer, university lecturer and author, Ms Ebadi has fought for rights for children born outside of marriage and for women in divorce, inheritance and employment law.

"From today," she told the crowd, "I will be at your service as always.",12858,1063015,00.html
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Ebadi Defiant Despite Khatami Scorn

October 15, 2003
The Peninsula

TEHRAN -- Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi was given a overwhelming welcome from thousands of fans as she returned to Iran yesterday, with the human rights activist shrugging off government warnings and immediately calling for the freeing of political prisoners.

“I hope that all political prisoners will be freed,” Ebadi, the first Muslim woman and first Iranian to win the prize, told reporters after she stepped off an Iran Air Boeing 747 from Paris.

“This prize is not only for me, but for all those in favour of peace, democracy, human rights and legality,” said a visibly emotional Nobel laureate, who almost fell to the ground in the crush of people who turned out to greet her.

“My message for Iranians is a message of love, friendship, peace and justice.” Ebadi, 56, was given the prize last Friday for her efforts to promote democracy and human rights, particularly for women and children in the Islamic republic.

Some 10,000 people, a majority of them women, had descended on Tehran’s Mehrabad airport for the homecoming of the petite and softly-spoken jurist, with bumper-to-bumper traffic bringing an area around the airport to a standstill.

Many in the crowd shouted political slogans, echoing Ebadi’s calls for political prisoners to be set free, and chants directed against embattled reformist President Mohammad Khatami who earlier broke four days of silence over her win, warning her to “pay attention”.

An irritated Khatami demanded: “Must I always send a message for everything,” when asked why he had taken so long to respond to the award. Obviously I am pleased that a compatriot has achieved such success.”

But, in comments that stunned observers, Khatami added: “The Nobel Peace Prize is not very important, the ones that count are the scientific and literary prizes.

“I hope that Ebadi, who comes from a religious family and has expressed her love for Islam, will pay attention to the interests of the Islamic world and of Iran, and not allow anyone to exploit her success.”
12 posted on 10/15/2003 7:17:45 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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American-Israeli Strategic Group Plans Talks on Iran

October 15, 2003
Aluf Benn

A periodic meeting of the American-Israeli strategic cooperation forum, the Joint Political Military Group (JPMG), will take place at the end of this month.

The talks will focus largely on efforts to stabilize the new regime in Iraq and to block Iran's efforts to acquire nuclear weapons capability. In addition, the two sides will exchange situation assessments on a number of strategic issues.

The talks will take place in Israel this time, and will be headed by Defense Ministry Director-General Amos Yaron and Lincoln Bloomfield, the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs.

The JPMG, established 20 years ago, has remained in continuous operation ever since, despite repeated changes in the governments of both countries. A higher-level strategic dialogue forum also exists, but has not met since November 2002.

Meanwhile, the U.S. administration has reported to Congress over the last few weeks on three impending defense deals with Israel:

-The supply of $65 million worth of medium-sized trucks to the Israel Defense Forces. The IDF will acquire 256 high-mobility (6x6) trucks manufactured by American Truck, as well as 49 rescue vehicles and 10 training vehicles.

-Alterations in the aircraft warning system that Israel is developing together with Singapore. The project is valued at more than $50 million.

-The supply of 420 machine guns to the IDF.
13 posted on 10/15/2003 7:18:47 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Iran Furious Over Human Rights Criticism From EU

October 15, 2003

TEHRAN -- Iran has reacted with fury to a EU statement criticising Iran for violating human rights, with the foreign ministry here bluntly telling the 15-member bloc to mind its own business.

"How can the European Union dare to challenge the organs and the institutions of Iran?" fumed an angry statement signed by foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi.

On Monday, EU foreign ministers meeting in Luxembourg voiced concern about "serious violations of human rights" in Iran, despite "the commitment expressed by the government of Iran to strengthen respect for human rights in the country and to promote the rule of law."

"The situation with regard to freedom of opinion and expression continues to be deeply troubling," the ministers said, while also voicing their "grave concern" at Iran's failure to reassure the world over its nuclear capacity.

But Asefi said such statements were "unacceptable".

"By announcing a certain number of obligations for (Iranian) legislative bodies, the EU has engaged itself in the judicial and legislative process of the country," he complained.

"Unfortunately, the EU's view on human rights and the nuclear issue is detached from reality, guided by political interests and considerations and inexact information," Asefi said.

"Iran wants to preserve and develop relations with the EU," he asserted, while reminding the bloc that such relations had to be based on "the EU's respect for the principle of mutual respect".

On the nuclear issue, Asefi asserted that by refusing to help Iran's nuclear programme, it was European countries that were not respecting the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty -- which contains clauses related to mutual assistance for civil nuclear power projects.

"In order to prove its transparency and sincerity on its nuclear programme, Iran has always invited other European countries to participate in a serious and open manner and we are still waiting for a serious response," Asefi said.

In contrast to the United States, which has labelled Tehran part of an "axis of evil," the European Union is pressing ahead with a policy of constructive engagement with Iran, pressing human rights issues while at the same time seeking to negotiate a bilateral trade agreement.

But relations have been severely tested by the recent crisis over Iran's nuclear capacity.

EU ministers were discussing Iran at a two-day meeting in Luxembourg, and in particular the prospect of a possible new UN Security Council resolution on human rights in the country.
14 posted on 10/15/2003 7:21:04 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Radical Iraq Cleric Confounds U.S. Allies

October 15, 2003
Knight Ridder
Drew Brown

BAGHDAD -- Coalition officials say a radical young cleric named Moqtader al-Sadr is behind a recent spate of suicide bombings and political assassinations that he is using to try to gain power over Iraq's Shiite Muslim majority. But they have not yet decided how to deal with him for fear of touching off even worse violence.

Coalition officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, say they now think that a car bombing Sunday at the Baghdad Hotel was a Sadr-inspired assassination attempt against Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a moderate Shiite physician who sits on Iraq's U.S.-appointed Governing Council. Rubaie, who was in the hotel, was slightly wounded. Six Iraqis, mostly paramilitary police officers, were killed, and at least 36 were injured.

Coalition officials think that attack was coordinated with a roadside bomb that struck the car of Sheik Saed Hussain al-Shami, Iraq's newly appointed deputy secretary of religious affairs, as he was on his way to work. Shami, another prominent Shiite moderate, also was slightly wounded.

The allegations about Sadr come as the struggle for primacy among Shiites, who make up 60 percent of Iraq's population, intensifies.

Overnight Tuesday, about 40 to 50 armed Sadr gunmen battled with about 200 gunmen claiming allegiance to Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, Iraq's top Shiite leader, after Sadr's men took control of two mosques in the sacred city of Karbala, about 50 miles southwest of Baghdad. At least six people were killed and an unknown number were wounded, said 1st Lt. Hashim Adami, a Karbala police officer.

The incident, the first major clash between Shiite groups since the U.S.-British invasion last spring, reflects the deep divisions between Sistani, who is said to favor strict separation between religion and politics, and Sadr, who favors a theocracy like Iran's.

The revelations come as Sadr, who is believed to be about 30, has declared the Governing Council illegitimate and announced government ministers of his own. They follow a two-week period in which gunmen from Sadr's self-styled ``Medhi Army'' have clashed several times with U.S. soldiers, mostly in Baghdad, where he has a significant following.

In the worst incident, two American soldiers were killed and three were wounded Thursday night in what military officials said was an ambush in Sadr City.

Shiite cooperation is essential to the coalition's reconstruction efforts. Shiites generally welcomed the U.S.-led invasion, having suffered years of repression under Saddam's mostly Sunni Muslim government, and are reveling in new political and religious freedoms.

Senior coalition officials and leading Shiite politicians maintain that Sadr does not represent a majority of Shiites. But he has grown steadily bolder. Last week, armed followers took over several municipal offices in Sadr City, an act that was condemned publicly by Baghdad's city council.

Publicly, coalition officials have been delicate in their statements regarding Sadr. Privately, they admit they don't have enough evidence to move against him.

But they also say he and his followers are becoming a security concern. Arresting a prominent cleric is a serious matter in Iraq; previous instances in which clerics have been detained have led to massive demonstrations. Taking the wrong step at this stage could inflame the situation further, they say.

After the gunbattle in Karbala overnight Tuesday, American tanks sealed off streets in Sadr City to prevent gangs of armed men from flocking to Karbala.

The fighting in Karbala began around 7 p.m. Monday when Sadr's men appeared at a coalition-funded radio station and demanded that the manager rename it a ``holy Islamic station,'' said coalition officials. Sadr's gunmen also kidnapped eight members of the city's government and took over the Al-Qaas and Al-Mukhaym mosques, several blocks from the Shrine of Imam Hussein, one of the holiest sites in Islam.

After about 200 gunmen claiming allegiance to Sistani arrived, a gunbattle ensued, which included exchanges of AK-47 fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The battle continued until morning, and the streets remained tense at midafternoon Tuesday, as U.S., Polish and Bulgarian troops sealed off the city and local mediators tried to negotiate an end to the standoff.

A mob of angry men near Al-Mukhaym mosque threatened a Knight Ridder reporter and photographer, who managed to get near the site before the city was sealed.

``Go away! There is nothing to see here!'' shouted one young man, shaking a fist in the air. ``We are all brothers in Islam.''

Several blocks away, another man explained the hostility.

``They're all Sadr's people,'' said Raad Mohammed, 35. ``So they don't want you to see the bad things they've done.''

Other residents said the sectarian violence had nothing to do with religion or politics. Both sides were fighting, they said, because the mosques pull in millions of Iraqi dinars each month from the donations of Shiite pilgrims.

Addressing the world's media on the sweltering rooftop of an elementary school in An-Najaf and flanked by portraits of his father and grandfather, Sadr called on Iraqis to demonstrate continuously to illustrate his political legitimacy. If only 1 percent of Iraqis demonstrate in his support, Sadr said, his government will be more representative of the Iraqi people than the 24-member Governing Council.

``The Iraqi people can make clear their decision by a demonstration to either refuse or accept us,'' he said. ``If they agree, they will go out and demonstrate. If they refuse, they will stay at home.''

Sadr also said he had not ``turned his guns on the Americans'' and the Americans had not ``turned their guns'' on him.

Drew Brown reported from Baghdad and Karbala. Knight Ridder correspondent Jeff Wilkinson in An-Najaf and Mercury News Staff Writer Maureen Fan in Baghdad contributed to this report.
15 posted on 10/15/2003 7:22:28 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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UN Wants Access to Iran Military Sites

October 15, 2003
Louis Charbonneau

VIENNA -- The U.N. nuclear watchdog asked to look at military sites in Iran as part of its investigation to determine if Iran has a secret atomic weapons program as the United States alleges, diplomats said Wednesday.

Diplomats also said it was very likely that the U.N. agency's governing board would choose to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council in November, though it would almost certainly not press for any kind of sanctions yet.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, diplomats told Reuters the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had given Iran a list of a few sites it wanted to inspect ahead of an October 31 deadline for Iran to prove it is complying with its obligations under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

The diplomats said Iran, which denies having a nuclear weapons program, accepted the list of sites and agreed to grant the IAEA access. It was unclear how many military sites were on the list, though one diplomat said the list was "short."

"One country in particular said (to the IAEA) that the inspections could not verify anything unless inspectors visited military sites," said a Western diplomat, adding that the IAEA agreed. This "one country" clearly refers to the United States.

Until now, the IAEA has been focusing on civilian sites.

Another Western diplomat familiar with the IAEA said that inspecting military sites made perfect sense given that the IAEA is trying to determine whether Iran has been secretly diverting nuclear resources to a military program.

"Isn't the whole point to see if they've crossed the line from civilian into military activity?" the diplomat said.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei leaves Wednesday for a one-day trip to Tehran for talks with senior Iranian officials.

An IAEA press release said the point of the visit is "to clarify important questions that are still outstanding about Iran's nuclear programs," wording that suggests Iran has been far from forthcoming in its dealings with the United Nations.


On Sept. 12, the IAEA passed a tough resolution that demanded Iran hand over all information and documentation related to its nuclear program by October 31, in particular its uranium enrichment activities.

IAEA inspectors have found weapons-grade uranium at two sites in Iran, fueling fears that Iran has been secretly purifying uranium for use in a bomb. Iran denies this and blames the uranium traces on contaminated machinery purchased abroad.

The IAEA board meets on November 20 to consider the IAEA's judgment of whether or not Iran complied with the resolution.

Diplomats said discussion at that crucial meeting would depend on the findings detailed in the IAEA's next report on Iran though several diplomats said the board would almost certainly report Iran to the Security Council after the meeting.

"I don't think Iran can get out of the next board meeting without some kind of non-compliance verdict," said a Western diplomat. "But this doesn't meet sanctions. Sanctions are not necessary at this point."

Another diplomat said that two IAEA reports on Iran from June and August already contained enough evidence to justify a non-compliance finding.

"The word non-compliance may not be used (in November), rather that the IAEA can't provided assurances" Iran is not diverting nuclear resources to a military program, he said.

A verdict of non-compliance with NPT safeguards obligations would require the IAEA to notify the Security Council.

However, the diplomats all said that they would only want the council to issue a statement demanding that Iran cooperate more with continued IAEA inspections.
16 posted on 10/15/2003 7:23:26 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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A Nobel Condemnation

October 15, 2003
Reza Bayegan

The Nobel Peace Prize conferred upon Shirin Ebadi is a recognition of the untiring efforts of a courageous human rights advocate. It is also an unequivocal condemnation of the clerical regime in Tehran by one of the most prestigious juries the world over. Ms. Ebadi has spoken up for justice in a political system that has continued its existence by breaking the law and abusing even those scant freedoms which its own faulty legislation has sanctioned for the country's citizens.

It is a biting irony that Shirin Ebadi has been acclaimed for efforts that amount to moving her country's legal system back to the rank it had reached a quarter of a century ago. She has endeavored to redeem for Iranian women and children those rights and freedoms that were achieved and taken for granted in the progressive era before the cataclysm of the 1979 Revolution. As a token of the Islamic Republic's disregard for women’s rights, Ms. Ebadi along with thousands of other Iranian women were told by the religious dictatorship to leave their jobs.

She was forced to resign her position as the first female judge in the history of the country. Nevertheless she refused to go home and keep silent. She bore being relegated to the rank of a legal assistant by the religious philistines who considered the place of women closer to the kitchen table than the judicial bench. She likens this painful experience to a demotion from the rank of company president to that of janitor.

The simile of degradation from the level of the President to that of a janitor can very aptly be applied to the debasement of the Iranian nation as whole in the hands of the forces of Islamist backwardness and tyranny. From the rank of one of the most advanced countries in the Middle East, and a highly respected member of the international community, Iran was metamorphosed into a land of human persecution and a hotbed of terrorism. It earned its full-fledged membership of the Axis of Evil by fostering, sponsoring and harboring the deadliest global assassins. Like Shirin Ebadi however, many other Iranians refused to sit down and accept this terrible fate for their homeland. A great number of those who courageously challenged the totalitarian regime are not alive today to witness this high tribute that in the words of Shahla Lahiji, a close friend of Ebadi's, "is like a prize to all Iranian people, who should be separated from their government."

The further the chasm deepens between the ruling clergy and the people of Iran, the closer we will get to the establishment of democracy in Iran. It should be obvious to everyone by now that the dark dreams of a regime whose President last year traveled to Lebanon and shamelessly announced his government's full support for the world's most pernicious terrorist groups has nothing in common with the aspirations of a people whose defender, and the defender of all human rights, is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. When Shirin Ebadi in an interview in Paris a few days ago said that "Iranian people are deeply disappointed by the revolution" and called for radical changes, she voiced the view of the majority of Iranians.

Within the country itself the buzzword today is "gozar," which is the Persian term for "transition." Everyone is waiting for the denouement of this tragic revolution and an end to years of pain and suffering. The status quo has become untenable and the lofty speeches of the President and the spleenful slogans of the Supreme Leader have lost whatever effectiveness they once possessed.

The credibility of the Islamic Republic has been completely exhausted in the world arena, as well. The attempt on the part of some members of the international community to invest hope in the person of Mohammad Khatami and his platform of reform has proven itself to be wishful thinking. The unity of the hard-liners and the reformists over the issue of sponsoring global terrorism and the development of a nuclear program clearly indicates that ultimately there is no substantial difference between the various factions of the governing establishment. Khatami's offer for a "Dialogue among Civilizations" in the face of later developments proved itself to be shrill grandstanding. Such a call is incompatible with the congenital nature of a political system founded on murder and violence. Those countries that chose the path of "constructive engagement" with the mullahs very soon found themselves to be the victims when those mullahs unleash the violent side of the Islamic Republic's yo-yo diplomacy.

As the entire regime moves towards further isolation, both within the country and abroad, the role of individuals like Shirin Ebadi in shaping the political future of the country becomes increasingly important. Although the Machiavellians within the government of Khatami are not wasting any time in trying to claim her as one of their own children, the Iranian Nobel laureate has so far steered clear of aligning herself with any political faction. In an interview with Newsweek's Marie Valla, she likened Iran to a sick old mother that she will not desert. The moral authority of the Nobel Committee and the international recognition of her achievement will help her fight the illness that has paralyzed her country for two-and-a-half decades.

It was a proud moment for all Iranians to see the messages of congratulations pouring in from all over the world at Shirin Ebadi's award. President Bush, the man who included the Islamic Republic in the Axis of Evil, was one of the first world leaders to express his joy and approval. It was a fresh reminder that the free world is ready to celebrate the achievement of the Iranian people and stand by them in condemning the government that has kept itself in power by trampling upon their dignity and their fundamental rights. Shirin Ebadi has reclaimed her pride and her rightful place, jumping from "janitor" to Nobel laureate. The rest of the country cannot but be inspired to follow suit.
17 posted on 10/15/2003 7:24:36 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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A Nobel Condemnation

October 15, 2003
Reza Bayegan
18 posted on 10/15/2003 7:25:33 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Thanks for the heads up!
19 posted on 10/15/2003 8:49:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate to Free Republic!)
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Thanks for the daily threads and the pings.


Into the Quagmire: Important days ahead for Iran. ~ Michael Ledeen.

20 posted on 10/15/2003 9:20:03 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Life's a roller coaster." ~ Rummy 10/2 - in response to a reporter re. critics wanting him fired.)
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A caricature in an Iranian hard line daily about Nobel Winner Ebadi
21 posted on 10/15/2003 9:28:28 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Californication...!)
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22 posted on 10/15/2003 10:17:02 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Californication...!)
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Payvand's Iran News ...

Iran denounces trilateral agreement on Caspian Sea
Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid-Reza Asefi said in Tehran on Tuesday that the recent trilateral agreement signed on October 8 between the Republic of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Russia on dividing the Caspian seabed is not in conformity with the principle of consensus and lacks legal standing, IRNA reported.

According to the Information and Press Bureau of the Foreign Ministry, Asefi said that any measure to change the legal regime of the Caspian Sea should be endorsed by all five littoral states.

The recent agreement totally contradicts the principle of consensus and makes the issue more complicated and delays the process of resolving the issues pertaining to the Caspian Sea and the Islamic Republic of Iran considers it to be of no legal bearing, he concluded
23 posted on 10/15/2003 10:30:12 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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15 Oct 2003 15:29:52 GMT Reuters
ElBaradei won't extend Iran's nuke deadline

The U.N. nuclear watchdog chief said on Wednesday that Iran could not expect an extension of an October 31 deadline to provide proof that they do not have a secret atomic weapons programme.

"I cannot accept that by the end of the month we will be in a position...that we believe that we have not gotten all the information we require," International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Mohamed ElBaradei told Reuters.

He added that Iran had increased its level of cooperation in recent weeks but said: "the speed is still not the way we would like to see it".
24 posted on 10/15/2003 10:39:20 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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Iran: IAEA Says Tehran Slow To Cooperate

Frankfurt, Germany; 15 October 2003 (NCA)

The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said today that Iran is slow in providing international inspectors the information they need to verify that Tehran is not working to produce nuclear weapons.

Mohammad el-Baradei today said that Iran has increased cooperation with the inspectors but "not with the speed we would like to see." El-Baradei was speaking in the German city of Frankfurt before boarding a plane for Tehran.

The IAEA has given Iran until 31 October to answer questions on its nuclear program. El-Baradei said Iran could not expect an extension of the deadline.
25 posted on 10/15/2003 11:47:11 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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Tens arrested and several injured during crackdown on Ebadi's supporters
SMCCDI (Information Service)
Oct 14, 2003

Tens of the supporters of Mrs. Ebadi have been arrested or injured following the brutal attacks of the Islamic regime's militiamen.

The sporadic clashes happened late evening in the Mehrabad Airport, Azadi Square, Youssef Abad (near Mrs. Ebadi's home) and the HafHose area of Narmak district. Militiamen with clubs and chains were seen attacking the supporters who were shouting slogans against the regime and all its leaders including its incompetent president.

Slogans calling for regime change and against rule of terror, such as "Down with Taleban of Iran" were shouted by the demonstrators.

Several supporters carrying cellular phones or cameras seen their materials confiscated and broken in front of their eye by the special troops of the regime's LEF.

Most of the arrested were brought to Zanjan avenue where are located the LEF provisional facilities for center Tehran.

26 posted on 10/15/2003 11:50:07 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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Tehran celebrates winds of change amid repression
SMCCDI (Information Service)
Oct 14, 2003

Thousands of Tehranis stayed till the early hours of Wednesday morning in order to chant, Dance and shout slogans against the regime while getting attack by the regime's plainclothes men.

Heavy traffic jams and sound of music with young boys and girls dancing in the streets were sign of the first serious winds of change starting to blow in Iran.

Narmak, Azadi, Enghelab, Shahrak Gharb, Tajrish, Youssef Abad, Madar, Zarabkhaneh, Rey and Javadie were scene of open air celebrations and chase and runs as militiamen were trying to arrest those shouting slogans the leaders of the regime and asking for a radical change of the political frame of the country.
27 posted on 10/15/2003 11:51:56 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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Iran's Intransigence May Spur Crisis

October 15, 2003
The Baltimore Sun
Bennett Ramberg

The international community is turning up the diplomatic heat on Iran's nuclear ambitions. But judging from the investment Tehran has already made to get the bomb, the diplomacy is unlikely to bear fruit, and another Middle East crisis is looming as a result.

Pressed by the United States, the International Atomic Energy Agency imposed an Oct. 31 deadline on Iran to reveal the hidden details about its nuclear program. If Iran fails to fully comply, the IAEA appears likely to refer the matter to the U.N. Security Council for action as early as November.

The mullahs have objected vehemently. But they know the consequence is unlikely to be serious in the short term.

Iraq demonstrated that the council is largely a debating society that will spend years issuing resolutions before acting in a resolute way. And by that time, Iran can make further progress to advance its nuclear ambitions. Still, Iran can use all the time it can get. Accordingly, we should not be surprised to see Tehran act in the "spirit of cooperation" to provide the IAEA with most of the documentation it requests. Indeed, the Iranians already have become more "forthcoming" by providing a list of imported parts.

Should Iran and the IAEA come to an understanding by the end of the month, Tehran will be able to pursue a legitimate program that will bring the country up to the nuclear weapons threshold. At this point -- still a few years from now -- it will be able to legally disavow the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty through its withdrawal provision.

But before all this happens, there will be another nuclear milestone in Iran's nuclear endeavors, namely the commencement of operations at its nuclear power plant near the Persian Gulf city of Bushehr. Built with Russian assistance, the plant is scheduled to go into operation in 2004 or 2005.

Washington speculates that Tehran can extract from the reactor's spent fuel weapons-grade plutonium. As a result, for years the United States pressed Moscow to halt assistance. Russian President Vladimir V. Putin remained unbending in his recent Camp David visit with President Bush. But Moscow has agreed to repatriate the plant's spent fuel. While this would eliminate the risk of plutonium diversion in the near future -- assuming Iran complied -- in years ahead the matter may become academic as Iran develops the potential to generate its own nuclear fuel.

Watching these events with enormous anxiety is Israel, which has told the Bush administration that it will not permit Iran to go forward with a program that can produce nuclear weapons. Israel, of course, is the only nation to have successfully bombed a nuclear plant to halt proliferation when it destroyed Iraq's Osirak reactor in 1981. Then, as now, time was of the essence.

To avoid the release of radiation, Israel chose to hit the plant before operations began. The Iranian plant -- larger than Chernobyl -- poses a far greater radiological hazard.

Bennett Ramberg served in the State Department's Bureau of Politico-Military Affairs in the first Bush administration.
28 posted on 10/15/2003 2:28:33 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Iran Can't Turn To EU Friend As Nuclear Deadline Nears

October 15, 2003
Dow Jones Newswires
Sally Jones

LONDON -- Iran's trade ties with its largest business partner, the European Union, are in jeopardy as a result of growing international concern over Tehran's nuclear program, according to analysts and sources.

Tehran has until Oct. 31 to prove to its international critics that it isn't building nuclear weapons. The head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog is to visit Iran Thursday to persuade the government to meet the deadline.

The E.U. has in recent days toughened its stance toward the country.

E.U. officials have threatened to scrap lucrative new trade terms under negotiation with Iran if Tehran doesn't act immediately and comply with demands by the International Atomic Energy Agency to sign an additional protocol to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

"The Europeans have indicated that talks on institutionalization of our economic relations would be extremely difficult to continue if the IAEA matter isn't resolved," said one senior Iranian diplomat.

In a statement released late last month, E.U. foreign ministers called Iran's nuclear program "a matter of grave concern" and said Tehran should sign "without delay" a new accord with the IAEA. The statement said future ties with the E.U. depended on improvement in Iran's record on non-proliferation, human rights, anti-terrorist efforts and the Middle East peace process.

The new trade agreement would pave the way for a more transparent and official framework for European companies to do business openly with Iran. U.S.-imposed sanctions on Iran have forced European firms in recent years to do business with Tehran on an ad-hoc and often erratic basis.

"The E.U. is warning Iran that their economic ties are now at risk," said a London-based consultant.

"It is sending a clear message to Tehran that economics aren't going to do it any good here, without some real assurances that it doesn't have a nuclear weapons program," another European consultant said.

EU Rhetoric May Stall New Energy Deals

Despite the U.S. sanctions, E.U. member countries and Iran have already forged strong economic ties, especially in the energy sector. Several of Europe's largest oil firms have turned their backs on the U.S. policy of isolating Tehran and plowed billions of dollars intolucrative Iranian oil and gas projects.

European industry sources say the latest warning from the E.U. doesn't mean that international oil firms would start pulling out of existing projects in Iran. "That would hardly be feasible," said one industry source.

But they warn that such deals won't be enough to shelter Tehran from any action the international community may decide to take against Iran if the nuclear issue isn't resolved.

They also say that if the E.U.-Iran trade agreement had been signed, a lot of new players - many of whom have been nervous about doing business with Iran - would have been prepared to start signing deals there.

Negotiations already on the table between European energy companies and Iranian oil officials could also be stalled because of the E.U.'s latest warning, sources said.

A consortium of Japanese oil companies recently buckled under U.S. pressure to delay talks with Tehran on signing a deal to develop Iran's giant Azadegan oil field until the nuclear issue has been cleared up.

"This is something which could limit future deals. People are worried about possible military action in Iran even if it were a small deal," said Josh Mandel at London-based consultants Control Risks.

But it is still unclear what action the international community may choose to take if the nuclear issue isn't resolved.

If Tehran goes ahead and signs the additional non-proliferation protocol, U.N. inspectors would have unfettered access to any sites in Iran they see fit.

But Tehran is naturally nervous. It feels that Washington would continue to point the finger at Iran even if suspicions over its nuclear program proved to be unfounded.

Tehran's response to the IAEA's demand has so far been contradictory.

Last week, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami said his government would do everything it could to allay concerns about its nuclear program, but added that inspectors would have to respect the country's "national security."

Khatami's remarks followed cries from the country's hard-liners for Iran to withdraw from the non-proliferation treaty.

The IAEA's board of directors is expected to refer the issue to the U.N. Security Council if they aren't happy with Iran's efforts to comply with its October deadline. The board will next meet in November.

But oil industry sources both in Tehran and Europe don't believe the recent tensions will inadvertently delay the inking of energy deals between oil majors and Iran. "It (Iran) is too important a market," one European industry source said.

A senior Iranian official argued that "it is simply impossible tactically to prevent European companies doing business in Iran." This, he added, "is a relationship which benefits both sides."

If the nuclear issue finds itself in the hands of the U.N. Security Council, international consultants say the E.U. may support some kind of punitive sanctions on Iran but nothing too restrictive. They say the main issue for the international community is still to sort out the reconstruction of Iraq.

"What we may see being put in place is something symbolic on certain things like limiting diplomatic travel," said one London-based political consultant.

-By Sally Jones, Dow Jones Newswires; 44-20-7842-9347;
29 posted on 10/15/2003 2:43:45 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Iran Can't Turn To EU Friend As Nuclear Deadline Nears

October 15, 2003
Dow Jones Newswires
Sally Jones
30 posted on 10/15/2003 2:44:29 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Free Iran, Now ~ Bump!
31 posted on 10/15/2003 4:25:58 PM PDT by blackie
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So if Iran obfuscates on Halloween, that's the last Straw.
32 posted on 10/15/2003 4:54:10 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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The outsider
In a restless Iran, Shirin Ebadi is a problem for conservatives and reformists

October 15, 2003
The Iranian

President Khatami finally reacted to Shirin Ebadi's Nobel Peace Prize, five days after the fact, and on the day of her triumphant return to Iran. He congratulated her but his praise was mixed with comments that showed discomfort, if not fear -- fear of what it could all mean to the future of the Islamic Republic.

"This award has been given to her totally on the basis of political considerations," Khatami was quoted as saying to reporters. He called the Peace Prize "not very important" compared with other Nobel awards, such as science and literature.

His comments are understandable. After all, Khatami cannot be expected to embrace Ebadi and all she stands for. The ruling conservatives are fuming from the fact that the world's most prestigious award has been given to a lawyer -- and a woman, astaghforellah -- who has been defending victims of some of the worst crimes committed by the regime. Khatami's outright support for Ebadi would have added fuel to the fire.

But although Khatami may have saved himself from the wrath of his conservative foes, his double-talk could still cost him dearly. He may now have lost the support of those who still had some hope left in his ability to bring about change. Worse still, by discrediting the just recognition of the great work of a spotless human rights activist, he has badly damaged his credibility. There were those who thought despite his political impotence, at least he was a "nice guy". No more.


There's no doubt that the Nobel Committee's statement on Ebadi took a stab -- several stabs -- at Islamic hardliners everywhere, especially in Iran. It called her a "conscious Moslem" who "sees no conflict between Islam and fundamental human rights." And it concluded with this:

We hope that the people of Iran will feel joyous that for the first time in history one of their citizens has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, and we hope the Prize will be an inspiration for all those who struggle for human rights and democracy in her country, in the Moslem world, and in all countries where the fight for human rights needs inspiration and support.

Political? You bet it is. And for all the right reasons.

The award could not have been given to a more deserving Iranian. Ebadi represents the women of Iran who have lost more in terms of social standing and dignity than any other sector. If Iranian women have excelled here and there, which they have, it's no thanks to the Islamic Republic.

For every woman who has achieved a measure of success inside and outside the home, there are hundreds who have suffered. Women have serious doubts about their self worth in a society that was overly male-dominated even before the Islamic Republic officially relegated them to lesser citizens, thus lesser human beings in many respects.

And of course there's no need to explain the adverse effects of mandatory hijab which has so symbolized this dark theocracy.

Ebadi has defended the rights of children in a very real sense, in her legal writings, in the courts and as one of the founders of the Society for Protecting the Rights of the Child. She is undoubtedly a pioneer in this field.

But what makes Ebadi even more remarkable is that she has used her legal skills as a former judge (the Islamic Republic took that right from women as well) to defend victims of highly sensitive political crimes. She took on cases that other lawyers would not even consider because they didn't want to risk their life and livelihood by exposing the brutality of the regime's henchmen.

So although the great majority of Iranians were unaware of her quiet but courageous work, she had earned great respect in women's and human rights circles. But now the Nobel Prize has suddenly made her an international celebrity and a hero back home. And that's a big problem for Iran's conservatives, as well as reformists.

The problem for the conservatives is obvious. The Nobel Committee has simply spat on the face of the ruling clergy by calling them uncivilized, undemocratic and violators of human rights.

The problem for the reformists is more complicated. Some members of parliament, junior politicians and journalists in the Khatami camp, are happy that conservatives from Supreme Leader Khamenei to radical thugs in the streets have been badly embarrassed. On the other hand, within the context of Iran's contemporary political terminology, Ebadi is not a reformist. That's why her prestigious award annoys Khatami and his closest followers. She is not one of them.

Ebadi can best be described as a secular Muslim -- with emphasis on secular. She has not relied on religious texts to seek justice, rather she has taken the rational approach, emphasizing that human rights are not against the spirit of religion. And by choosing not to wear the scarf at a high-profile press conference in Paris after being declared the winner of the Nobel prize, she sent a clear message that she belongs to neither of the ruling factions. She appeals to Iranians who are tired of both Khamenei and Khatami. And God knows they are everywhere and from all walks of life.


Ebadi has become an instant celebrity, and by all standards a loveable one. The Ebadi buzz on the internet has been unprecedented. And the cheerful welcome she received from thousands of people at Tehran airport after her return from Paris could just be the beginning. Remember the last time a popular figure returned to his country from Paris? He swept away a monarchy in ten days. Ebadi is no Khomeini -- and thank God for that. But just like 1979, the masses are restless and they are desperate for a hero.

Six years ago they weren't so desperate. Most had hoped that the huge votes for Khatami, and later his reformist allies in parliament, would bring change for the better through the ballot box, that authoritarian rule would gradually come to an end, that the government would become more rational, that personal freedoms would expand, political prisoners would be freed, restrictions on the press would become less and less, and women's rights would be restored over time.

But what do we have now? We have a president who is presiding over his own demise and that of a harsh theocracy he wanted (or said he wanted) to reform. We have a parliament that is a graveyard for laws killed one by one by a panel of clerics who couldn't give a damn about reform. We have fewer newspapers that speak the truth and more journalists in jail, not to mention scores of student protesters and political activists of all colors. On the other hand, women are wearing less and less in public. But I don't think Khatami would take credit for that.

Disenchantment is rampant and deep. Iranians are angry to the point that they despise fundamentalism, all mullahs and the Islamic Republic. They have not only lost hope in reform but are becoming more and more radical and fearless in standing up to the religious establishment. It is in this environment that Ebadi's message of human rights and democracy has so electrified Iranian society. Where will it all lead? Hard to tell, but the Islamic Republic is no longer at the controls.
33 posted on 10/15/2003 5:30:42 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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Iran-Contra figure re-emerges as middleman for Iraq information to U.S. government

PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, October 15, 2003 (10-15) 11:54 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

A central figure in the Iran-Contra affair of the 1980s has passed allegations to the Bush administration that $150 million in enriched uranium was smuggled from Iraq into Iran five years ago and some may remain hidden in Iraq.

The information was relayed to the administration through a conservative author, Michael Ledeen. And Ledeen is now accusing the CIA of failing to aggressively check the allegation because of a long-held distrust of Manucher Ghorbanifar, a middleman in the Reagan administration's Iran-Contra swap of arms for hostages.

The CIA agrees it is dubious of information from Ghorbanifar, saying he has "proven to be a fabricator." But the intelligence agency did meet in Baghdad in recent days with Ghorbanifar's source of the uranium allegation, according to interviews.

President Bush was hurt earlier this year by bad intelligence about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa that was included in his State of the Union address to justify the war. The CIA acknowledges that information turned out to be false and says it had raised concerns about the information with a White House official months before the speech.

The new allegation is worthy of a cloak-and-dagger novel. And its delivery to the CIA illustrates the influence some prominent outside conservatives continue to have inside the Pentagon -- and the difficulty the CIA faces in sorting through allegations emanating from the Middle East.

The source of the current allegation is an Iraqi Shiite who began supplying the Pentagon with information about Iran nearly two years ago in meetings arranged by Ledeen, who has a number of friends in the Pentagon's civilian leadership. The Iraqi was brought to Ledeen's attention by Ghorbanifar, an Iranian exile.

Ledeen, Ghorbanifar and the Iraqi source all favor the overthrow of Iran's current government.

Ledeen said that two months ago Ghorbanifar called him with the uranium allegation, and Ledeen pressed the former Iran-Contra figure to check its accuracy. "He called me back and said, `As far as I can tell it's true.' On the basis of that I went to the Pentagon," Ledeen said.

"The question I have is why doesn't the CIA go look?" Ledeen asked.

CIA spokesman Bill Harlow said, "We aggressively pursue all legitimate leads on weapons of mass destruction issues."

"It is true that we have no interest in meeting with Mr. Ghorbanifar since he long ago was proven to be a fabricator and someone who sought to peddle false information for financial gain," Harlow added.

Ghorbanifar flunked two lie detector tests for the CIA, and the White House aides and covert operators involved in the arms-for-hostages deals with Iran didn't trust him, according to testimony from various investigations of that 1980s affair. Yet they continued to deal with him because of his contacts inside Iran and the hope that hostages would be released.

Ledeen, who once advised the Reagan White House on national security matters, presented the uranium story first to Pentagon official Tom O'Connell, to whom Ledeen dedicated the latest of his 17 books, entitled "The War Against the Terrormasters."

Ledeen said he was hoping the Pentagon would go to Iraq and check out the account, but was told that was the CIA's job.

O'Connell, an assistant defense secretary, said in an interview he considers Ledeen "an expert on a whole range of affairs, including terrorism.

"Anything he said would warrant the attention of the U.S. government. I am not in the intelligence business and I would have referred anything" that Ledeen provided "to the proper authorities."

In an acrimonious meeting two weeks ago, in a sport utility vehicle with dark-tinted windows being driven through Baghdad streets, the CIA told the Iraqi source that it did not believe the allegation and suspected the people he was working with only wanted money. The agency demanded a sample of the uranium, the Iraqi source said in an interview arranged by Ledeen.

The Iraqi source, who would talk only on condition his name not be used for fear of his safety, said he told the agency it could meet with three people involved in the purported shipment. Those people, including a man formerly in the Iraqi military, are said to be suffering from radiation sickness. They can take the Americans to a laboratory in Iraq where unspecified "material" is stored, the source said. If the evidence proved valuable, a reward ranging from thousands to millions of dollars would be paid, he said.

Theodore Rockwell, a retired nuclear engineer who was the technical director for Adm. Hyman Rickover's nuclear Navy program, casts doubt on the allegation.

"The idea that these people would still show symptoms of radiation sickness five years later is an indication that if they're sick, it's from something else other than radiation," Rockwell said.

Nearly two years ago, Ledeen says he arranged meetings in Rome between the Iraqi source and two Pentagon Middle East experts after Ghorbanifar brought the source to Ledeen's attention. Ledeen said the contacts provided information to the United States that later saved American lives in Afghanistan. The contacts were broken off amid complaints from some administration officials about Ghorbanifar's involvement.
34 posted on 10/15/2003 5:39:36 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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It was a fresh reminder that the free world is ready to celebrate the achievement of the Iranian people and stand by them in condemning the government that has kept itself in power by trampling upon their dignity and their fundamental rights.

Shirin Ebadi leads the way up from tyranny.

35 posted on 10/15/2003 6:23:12 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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"...he has badly damaged his credibility."

LOL. What credibility?

"There were those who thought despite his political impotence, at least he was a "nice guy".

LOL. A nice guy?

Where do these people who think he's a "credible, nice guy", live?
Washington, D.C.?

"the Islamic Republic is no longer at the controls"
This seems a bit premature, but things seem to be heading in that direction fairly quickly.
Keep the pressure on.
36 posted on 10/15/2003 9:43:38 PM PDT by nuconvert
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No change in Iran nuke deadline: ElBaradei

REUTERS,OCT 16, 2003

FRANKFURT: The UN nuclear watchdog chief said on Wednesday Iran could not expect an extension of an October 31 deadline to prove it does not have a secret nuclear weapons programme.

Iran denies US charges it is trying to make an atomic bomb, but after it failed to fully declare its nuclear sites the International Atomic Energy Agency (IDEA) set the deadline for Tehran to show evidence or face possible UN sanctions.

"I cannot accept that by the end of the month we will be in a position...(where) we believe we have not gotten all the information we require," IDEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said.

Diplomats said Iran might ask for the deadline to be extended.

ElBaradei acknowledged for the first time UN inspectors had visited military sites in Iran and said Tehran had been more cooperative in recent weeks, but still had not been acting as quickly as the IDEA would like.

"We still need more information," he said. "Now is the time to come forward with a full and comprehensive declaration of all they have done. This is a must."

ElBaradei was speaking en route to Iran where he will hold talks with senior officials during a one-day visit.

He said the most pressing issue was clarification of Iran's uranium enrichment programme which the United States says is at the heart of a clandestine attempt to build an atom bomb.

Understanding Iran's enriched Uranium

Concerns about Iran's nuclear programme were fuelled earlier this year when Tehran revealed it was well on the way to enriching uranium. Iran says it needs to produce low-grade enriched uranium to use as fuel in nuclear power reactors.

Highly enriched uranium can be used in nuclear bombs and the IDEA has found traces of it at two Iranian nuclear sites. Tehran said it was due to contaminated machinery bought from abroad.

A senior diplomat said on Wednesday further samples taken from the two sites had also tested positive for enriched uranium.

"We still need more information, including the origin of this equipment," ElBaradei said. A number of diplomats have said that some of the components came from Pakistan.

He said the contamination explanation could be true, even though it had met with widespread scepticism.

"It could be contamination, it could be importing enriched uranium, it could be both," ElBaradei said, adding he hoped to move forward on the issue during Thursday's talks.

"There are a lot of questions we are still asking and we hope to get answers to them."

Diplomats said the IDEA had asked to inspect military sites in Iran to see if there was a secret arms programme.

"We have been to military sites," ElBaradei confirmed. A Western diplomat said one such site the IDEA visited was called Kolahdouz, near Tehran.

Diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity, also said the UN agency's governing board would probably choose to report Iran to the UN Security Council in November, though it would almost certainly not press for any kind of sanctions yet.

ElBaradei said this attitude was premature. He said IDEA board member countries should wait for his next report on inspections in Iran before reaching a verdict.

"People need to be patient, give us the time to do our work and not come to premature conclusions. It's only a matter of weeks before (the next report)," he said.

The IDEA board meets on November 20 to consider the IAEA's judgment of whether or not Iran has complied with the resolution.
37 posted on 10/15/2003 10:30:32 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Californication...!)
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Iran Press Service

TEHRAN 14 Oct. (IPS) “The Nobel prize for peace is not that important, as it is usually bestowed on political considerations. Look at some of the personalities who have received it, Anwar el Sadat, Yaser Arafat or Menachim Begin. But the literature or scientific prizes are most important, for they are given on researches and works”, said Iran's President Mohammad Khatami on Tuesday.

In his first reaction to the Peace Prize for 2003 offered on 10 October by the Nobel Academy of Norway to the Iranian lawyer and human rights campaigner Shirin Ebadi, a visibly jealous Khatami also warned her “to consider the feeling of Iranian people and not be elated by her new status”, as she has become the centre of the media and world’s public attention.

In interviews with the international press and press conferences in Paris, where she was on a private visit, Mrs. Ebadi said she would continue with her struggle in reforming some of Islamic laws that segregated women and warned the ruling clerics that if they do not heed people’s demands for democracy, freedom and the rule of law, they would bear all the consequences.

Speaking to reporters hours before the arrival of Mrs. Ebadi to Tehran, where she was greeted by hundreds of well wishers, including students, scholars, journalists, intellectuals and also ordinary Iranians, Mr. Khatami nevertheless added that “like other Iranians, he is also happy that a compatriot has won this prize.

When asked by a reporter from the independent students news agency ISNA why he had not issued a formal statement reacting to last week's announcement, he dismissed the question, saying “one can not issue statements over any event”.

“I wished Khatami would continue with his silence, thinking he had been forced by his hard line superiors. He has been finished politically, but now that he has insulted me, I consider him as if he was dead. Now, I think I have more respect for Khameneh’i and the next time, I would vote for the conservatives”, an angry student told Iran Press Service, expressing the sentiment of most Iranians.

The achievement of the 56 years-old Mrs. Ebadi, the first ever Iranian and Muslim woman to win the much envied prize angered the ruling ayatollahs who, via their press, not only questioned the personality and the activities of the laureate, one of Iran’s very few females becoming judge before the Islamic revolution of 1979, but also accused the judges on the Nobel panel of a “deliberate decision” in harming Islam.

Even the official reformists extended only lukewarm congratulations to Mrs. Ebadi while the hard-line Iranian press has ignored or criticized her selection, and her decision not to wear a headscarf at a news conference in Paris.

Khatami’s first words, coming five years after the event that surprised the whole word and filled Iranians with joy and pride angered so much the public that one of his closest aides in Hojjatoleslam Mohammad Ali Abtahi had to redress the situation, stating that “abusing the President’s words about Mrs. Ebadi is tantamount to abusing the prize bestowed on her for political considerations”.

However, eyewitness at Tehran airport told Iran Press Service that the authorities have taken unprecedented security precautions, as hundreds of plainclothes security men are camouflaged amongst the well-wishers.

“Most roads leading to Mehrabad international airport are closed to traffic and it seems that there are more security agents than well wishers”, one eye witness reported.

However, Mrs. Ebadi callied for the freeing of political prisoners as she was mobbed by thousands of well-wishers.

"I hope that all political prisoners will be freed", told reporters after she stepped off an Iran Air Boeing 747 from Paris.

"This prize is not only for me, but for all those in favour of peace, democracy, human rights and legality", a visibly emotional Ebadi repeated.

"The world recognises the fight of Muslim women, and this is my political message", she said. "My message for Iranians is a message of love, friendship, peace and justice", she added, according to an dispatch from the French news agency AFP.

Some 10,000 people, a majority of them women, had descended on Tehran's Mehrabad airport for her homecoming.

Many shouted political slogans, including calls for political prisoners to be set free and chants directed against embattled Khatami because of the scorn he had poured on the prize.

As the area surrounding the city centre complex was brought to a standstill by bumper-to-bumper traffic, people were seen abandoning their vehicles and covering the final few kilometres (miles) on foot to catch a glimpse of the petite and softly-spoken jurist.

Many women were clutching bouquets of flowers and pictures of the Nobel winner, and singing patriotic hymns. Most of them were also wearing white headscarves.

An organising committee set up by supporters of Ebadi to plan festivities for her return from Paris had called on women to make the symbolic gesture of wearing white rather than the usual black preferred by the Islamic regime.

"I cannot meet you tonight, there are too many people. I am sorry for this evening but, as of tomorrow, I will be at your service", she told the crowd briefly while standing on a chair.
38 posted on 10/15/2003 10:33:08 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Californication...!)
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39 posted on 10/16/2003 12:55:11 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: F14 Pilot
“The Nobel prize for peace is not that important..."

Yeah. That's what he says when He doesn't win one.
Khatami's envy is transparent.

40 posted on 10/16/2003 4:08:44 AM PDT by nuconvert
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Thanks for the heads up!
41 posted on 10/16/2003 10:36:55 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: F14 Pilot
Though Khatami did not receive a price, still, he is a prize.

A prize ass.

Kaution: Khatami Krossing

42 posted on 10/16/2003 4:33:12 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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