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Freep this Poll: Was it right for the judge to allow Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be removed?
USA Today ^ | 10/15/03 | USA Today

Posted on 10/15/2003 2:45:35 PM PDT by Skooz

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

USA Today, like other media outlets, insist on saying Terri is "comatose." Note how the article says they are "letting her die," rather than starving her to death. Amazing.


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1 posted on 10/15/2003 2:45:36 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
Yes: 71.65%

No: 28.35%

Total Votes: 6769
2 posted on 10/15/2003 2:47:31 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: All
Thank you for helping to keep Free Republic going strong. Another successful fundraiser is in the books!
3 posted on 10/15/2003 2:48:34 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Skooz
71% in favor. The United States = Culture of Death
4 posted on 10/15/2003 2:55:04 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6
Yeah, I was actually quite suprised to see it so lopsided in favor of killing her. All I can think is that the article is so slanted that people see it as an act of mercy than what it really is---murder.
5 posted on 10/15/2003 2:57:52 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz
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6 posted on 10/15/2003 3:01:33 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Skooz
There is no letting her die.

She has been no more alive than a turnip for over ten years, they are simply stopping the extreme body support measures that should have stopped after a week or so.

The only rational for keeping a corpse on life support like that is to ready it as an organ transplant donor.

So9

7 posted on 10/15/2003 3:07:24 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Skooz
"All I can think is that the article is so slanted that people see it as an act of mercy than what it really is---murder."

I was surprised too, but unless it is dedicated voting by the pro-euthanasia crowd, this is very disheartening.

This whole incident convinces me I should have a "living will" which will basically say keep my alive as long as possible, and whoever doesn't like that, too bad.

They are going to start killing people off here, just like they are doing in Holland.

It is very hard to think we are not in the end times, so much that is plainly wrong is held up a right. It is hard to comprehend that 70% of the American public are would-be heartless killing cravers.

8 posted on 10/15/2003 3:08:00 PM PDT by jocon307 (GO RUSH GO)
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Yes 70.78%

No 29.22%

Total Votes: 6931
9 posted on 10/15/2003 3:08:31 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Servant of the 9
You haven't been keeping up, have you? She is not being taken off life support--she is being starved to death.
10 posted on 10/15/2003 3:09:44 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: jocon307
This whole incident convinces me I should have a "living will" which will basically say keep my alive as long as possible, and whoever doesn't like that, too bad.

If you are afraid of where you are going after you die, then yes you certainly should.

I have a living will ordering no extreme measures, no life support, no resusitation.

So9

11 posted on 10/15/2003 3:10:30 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: jocon307
This whole incident convinces me I should have a "living will" which will basically say keep my alive as long as possible, and whoever doesn't like that, too bad.

If you are afraid of where you are going after you die, then yes you certainly should.

I have a living will ordering no extreme measures, no life support, no resusitation.
I have no reason to fear death.

So9

12 posted on 10/15/2003 3:11:02 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: jocon307
It is very hard to think we are not in the end times, so much that is plainly wrong is held up a right. It is hard to comprehend that 70% of the American public are would-be heartless killing cravers.

If Terri had indeed shown no sign of conciousness for 12 years and was living on heart/lung machine, pulling the plug would probably be reasonable.

I suspect what the 70% figure really shows is that 70% of the people haven't seen any videos of Terri or otherwise discovered the extent of Schiavo/Greer/Felos' deception.

13 posted on 10/15/2003 3:11:22 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Skooz
You haven't been keeping up, have you? She is not being taken off life support--she is being starved to death.

Forced Feeding is a form of life support.

So9

14 posted on 10/15/2003 3:12:37 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
THERE IS NO ARTIFICIAL LIFE SUPPORT. JUST A FEEDING TUBE
15 posted on 10/15/2003 3:12:46 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. .She is NOT comatose or PVS. She's alive ... www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Servant of the 9
Why allow her to starve to death? Wouldn't it have been better to give something that would hasten the death. They're estimating 2 weeks.

The treatment of animals are more humane.
16 posted on 10/15/2003 3:12:48 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Servant of the 9
No, it isn't. If it were then all babies are on life support.

She is breathing on her own. Her heart functions on it's own.

She is on NO life support.

Sorry, but you are quite uninformed on this matter.
17 posted on 10/15/2003 3:14:05 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Servant of the 9
She has been no more alive than a turnip for over ten years, they are simply stopping the extreme body support measures that should have stopped after a week or so.

She seems to be an amazingly active turnip from descriptions posted.

To be sure, there isn't evidence showing when videos were taken, but if her condition has deteriorated from what was shown in the videos, that is purely the fault of Schiavo's decision to block any attempts at rehabilitation.

Someone does not survive what Terri has survived, without a ventilator, unless they have a very strong will to live.

18 posted on 10/15/2003 3:14:11 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: swheats
Why allow her to starve to death? Wouldn't it have been better to give something that would hasten the death. They're estimating 2 weeks.

The treatment of animals are more humane.

I agree, but advocating that is a quick way to get banned from FreeRepublic.

So9

19 posted on 10/15/2003 3:15:15 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
Watch the video on Hannity & Combs tonight, then get back to me.
20 posted on 10/15/2003 3:15:31 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Servant of the 9
Forced Feeding is a form of life support.

Would spoon feeding be considered "life support"? Why has Schiavo blocked all efforts to do swallow testing?

21 posted on 10/15/2003 3:16:08 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Servant of the 9
Really that's a banning offense?

The call for hastening the death of a well person is a banning offense. Wanting to find a better way of honoring a person's living will that can't care for themselves is mercy and compassion. JMHO

22 posted on 10/15/2003 3:23:06 PM PDT by swheats (That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Maybe a timeout at least.)
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To: Servant of the 9
She has been no more alive than a turnip for over ten years

Wow, a turnip that smiles and tries to talk and get out of bed. Some turnip.

Wise up. Her husband tried to strangle her, and succeeded only in putting her in the hospital. Now he has legal permission to finish the job. Why do you think her bone scan showed multiple old traumas? Why do you think he's ordered that she be cremated immediately after her death; no autopsy, nothing?

It's almost like he has something to hide.

23 posted on 10/15/2003 3:27:48 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
I didn't realize all of this happened. Was her trying to get out of bed recently?

Makes the picture clearer why the husband refused to release her to her family.

24 posted on 10/15/2003 3:30:46 PM PDT by swheats
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To: swheats
Was her trying to get out of bed recently?

Somewhat recent, though I don't know the exact date. She'd been in the hospital a long time, though; if her condition has deteriorated since then, it would have been in significant measure because she's been denied any sort of rehabilitative therapy.

25 posted on 10/15/2003 3:40:37 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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Yes 70.09%

No 29.91%

Total Votes: 7108
26 posted on 10/15/2003 3:43:44 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Campion
Wow, a turnip that smiles and tries to talk and get out of bed. Some turnip.

There are some lower level brain functions operating, but there is no one home.

Wise up. Her husband tried to strangle her, and succeeded only in putting her in the hospital. Now he has legal permission to finish the job. Why do you think her bone scan showed multiple old traumas? Why do you think he's ordered that she be cremated immediately after her death; no autopsy, nothing?

If that were even remotely true, it would be a law enforcement matter, and it's not. The County Medical Examiner makes the dcecision on an autopsy, not the family.

I would want immediate cremation too, because the loons on the torture people with forced Existance bandwagon could very well dig up the corpse and try sticking a feeding tube back in and claiming it still lived.

So9

27 posted on 10/15/2003 4:06:20 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Skooz
Thanks !

I took the time to vote YES !!

By the way, those who feel the same way I do might wish to have "living wills" made out, which specify- if you are clearly terminal,NO HEROIC MEASURES should be taken.
28 posted on 10/15/2003 4:06:37 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: Servant of the 9
There are some lower level brain functions operating, but there is no one home.

Completely untrue. She has been awake recently. They are not removing ventilators or anything of the sort. They are starving her to death.

29 posted on 10/15/2003 4:09:21 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: genefromjersey
She had no living will. No "heroic measures" have ever been taken on her behalf. None have been necessary. She lives on her own. Her husband has decided to starve her to death to get her out of the way.
30 posted on 10/15/2003 4:11:02 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: genefromjersey
if you are clearly terminal

She is in no way "clearly" or in any other way "terminal." You might want to read up on the subject.

31 posted on 10/15/2003 4:12:03 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: genefromjersey
By the way, those who feel the same way I do might wish to have "living wills" made out, which specify- if you are clearly terminal,NO HEROIC MEASURES should be taken.

What sort of truly "terminal" patient survives an infection without antibiotics and then survives 60 hours without food or water? If there weren't some very strong will to live, Terri would have died years ago.

What would Terri have to do or have to have done to convince you that she wanted to live?

Under Florida law, a guardian is required to act in the best interest of his ward, and in cases where a guardian may have a conflict of interest the court is required to appoint a guardian ad libitem. Mr. Schiavo has on numerous occasions acted in a manner clearly contrary to the best interests of his wife. When the guardian ad libitem had the audacity to suggest that such a conflict-of-interest might exist, Felos had him dismissed and not replaced.

If Terri is indeed a vegetable, she should not object to being visited by her parents or having people attempt to communicate with her. His actions seem to be based on a fear of Terri's possible recovery; that is the only motivation I can think of. Can you offer any other explanation which would be consistent with all of his actions?

32 posted on 10/15/2003 4:17:35 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Skooz
The "yes" votes are still more than 2/3. I wonder what kind of people vote to kill other people.
33 posted on 10/15/2003 6:14:02 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
I wonder what kind of people vote to kill other people.

Probably the sort that believes that Terri has been in a vegetative state for the last 13 years.

34 posted on 10/15/2003 6:35:09 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: jocon307
Titus Livius 59 B.C.-17 A.D. "...Of late years wealth has made us greedy, and self-indulgence has brought us, through every form of sensual excess, to be, if I may put it, in love with death both individual and collective."
35 posted on 10/15/2003 6:40:11 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: madprof98
I wonder what kind of people vote to kill other people.

Hopefully, the ghouls will not be in the majority when I reach old age. I might be inconvenient and, therefore, disposable.

36 posted on 10/15/2003 6:45:59 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Servant of the 9
"She has been no more alive than a turnip for over ten years, they are simply stopping the extreme body support measures that should have stopped after a week or so."

When my mom, who had signed a living will and filed it with her nursing home had her final stroke, she was flat on her back and unconscious. She was permitted to die because everybody involved knew she wanted it, and she had signed papers to direct that it happen.

I just saw a video of Terri S. sitting up with her eyes open and responding to some music being played for her. She didn't look like any turnip to me.

I sat with my mom during her last days, and I have seen video of Terri. Their situations are not the same, IMO.

37 posted on 10/15/2003 7:00:44 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Irene Adler
67.92% ~ Yes

32.08% ~ No

Total votes: 7691

38 posted on 10/15/2003 7:06:25 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Skooz
Well Skooz, wait until it is their turn to have the plug pulled on them and then see how they vote.

Michael states " Teri would not want to live like this."

If that is true, then why did he keep her "like this" until he won his lawsuit and deposited the money in the bank.

If you will check back, it was only after he got the money that, "Teeri would not want to live like this."
39 posted on 10/15/2003 7:14:43 PM PDT by sport
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To: Servant of the 9
So9

I don't fear death, but I really don't want to be murdered either. I'd like to leave that timing to God, and not some person, who may or may not have my best interests in mind.

I certainly don't expect to live forever, but I'd like to live as long as God wants, and not as long as my "husband", my "mugger" or my "doctor" find convenient.
40 posted on 10/15/2003 9:29:14 PM PDT by jocon307 (GO RUSH GO)
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To: All
Sign this petition NOW!
41 posted on 10/16/2003 6:55:24 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Go Buckeyes!)
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To: swheats; supercat; sport
Please see and use this link TERRI WANTS TO LIVE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1001073/posts
42 posted on 10/16/2003 8:39:45 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen ( Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Skooz; diamond6; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Carry_Okie; headsonpikes; EternalVigilance; Askel5; ...
Around 1PM ET, we had gotten the noes up to over 49%. Since that time, some group has agressively added to the Yes votes, so that the noes are declining again.

Any care to FReep somemore? Vote NO.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-15-schiavo_x.htm
43 posted on 10/16/2003 10:26:35 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Skooz
I just voted and it's pretty much neck & neck.
44 posted on 10/16/2003 10:31:19 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Skooz; diamond6; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Carry_Okie; headsonpikes; EternalVigilance; Askel5; ...
Correction. The noes are still on the advance. Good.

Was it right for the judge to allow Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be removed?

52.18%
No
47.82%
Yes
45 posted on 10/16/2003 10:31:39 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Was it right for the judge to allow Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be removed?

52.21% No
47.79% Yes
Total Votes: 11,226
46 posted on 10/16/2003 10:33:54 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Just voted no, as I have been for some time now(pretending to be a democrat.
47 posted on 10/16/2003 10:34:00 AM PDT by trustandobey
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Was it right for the judge to allow Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be removed?

52.22% - No
47.78% - Yes
Total Votes:11229

48 posted on 10/16/2003 10:34:31 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Great. We are now voting on whether people should live or die. Will the next ``reality show'' be one where we vote on who should die? The show that will last a 1000 years. Should Joe, a retarded man, be allowed to live? Should Jane, who holds opinions we deem offensive be allowed to continue breathing?
49 posted on 10/16/2003 11:12:40 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Actually, this vote is over criticism of the judge's decision.

Let me ask you the question this way: Is it okay for the elite to decide on who should live and who should die?

50 posted on 10/16/2003 11:34:13 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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