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DATE RAPE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Oct 16 2003 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 10/15/2003 10:05:10 PM PDT by carlo3b

 

DATE RAPE!  DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?


Did he or didn't he?  Has our compassion for an alleged victim in a particular type of crime, allowed our Bill of Rights to go past due! 

Did she or didn't she?  It appears there are more the a few Americans that are now beginning to rethink the compassionate laws that awarded unquestioned protections, to unproved accusations. It has become obvious that these well meaning measures may have gone too far. Has today's culture allowed itself to believe only one side of a conflict where a woman is considered, without ever hearing the other? Are all men sexual brutes?

Would a woman lie?

"It is a besetting vice of democracies to substitute public opinion for law. This is the usual form in which masses (of men) exhibit their tyranny."
-James Fenimore Cooper

Men, I learned early on were by nature, bigger, stronger, and much more aggressive than women. The men in my life, great grandfather, grandfathers, uncles, and even neighbors were our protectors, safe keepers, and providers. They were to be emulated, learned from, looked up to. Men were a defense against anything that threatened us. Most men that I knew were good. They loved us, even if they never really said so. I loved the men in my life, because they were good, because the women in my home wouldn't allow them to behave any other way.

Where all men good, and by default, were all boys nice guys? Of course not, and I found that out the hard way.

"If you can learn from hard knocks, you can also learn from soft touches."
-Carolyn Kenmore

I was taught from birth, that women were always looking out for my best interest. My mother, grandmother, great grandmother, aunts and yes even my teachers were all there to help me. I didn't always agree with them, but I never for a moment doubted their veracity. Women were the soft ones, the good smelling, caring and tender people in our lives. Why would they want to hurt me, I loved them and they all loved me.

Were all women, and by default all little girls, always good?  Well, as I grew up, I began to discover that girls much like boys, are not always nice. So what happened to make things change?  That came later.

"The emotional, sexual, and psychological stereotyping of females begins when the doctor says: 'It's a girl.'"
-Shirley Chisholm

Although women were smaller, and mostly weaker in a physical sense, they were not pushovers. Our mothers, and all adult women in our family were the benevolent dictators over everything within the home and family, and that included the men and boys. I didn't have any sisters, but my friends did and they became wiser, a lot sooner in the ways of the world where females were concerned than I did. What I didn't grasp until much later was that not all females were like my mother, and that mothers, acted like females to other people, but never us.

"We create an environment where it is alright to hate, to steal, to cheat, and to lie if we dress it up with symbols of respectability, dignity and love."
-Whitney Moore, Jr.

Can and do men and boys take advantage of smaller and weaker people? Yes, of course. Does that include women? Absolutely!  Does that include sex?  Without a doubt.

Ergo, all men always take advantage of everyone, especially women, in every case, without question, were sex is concerned!

That is absolutely absurd, and would be laughable if it wasn't so frightening. However, in most states in The United States of America, in the case of an accusation of sexual assault, a man is considered guilty, and is treated as such, until and if he can prove otherwise. However, he must never accuse the accuser of any motive other than of that misinterpretation of his disgusting intentions.

"There are no facts, only interpretations."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Innocent Until Proven Guilty? Not a chance. Presumed innocence? Not in the current court of public opinion, and not in too many criminal courts of law either. A man is not allowed to proffer any questions or produce evidence of a pattern of behavior that casts any doubt on the accuser.

Thus, a man must present a defense that casts him as unethical, uncaring, and a vicious beast who perpetuates the accusation, promotes the stereotype, and confirms in public the appearance of guilt, beyond a shadow of doubt.

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
-Albert Einstein

Does it happen, that men, evil men, not only can and in some cases, do rape and brutalize women? You bet they do and when proven, the law should treat them in the strongest punishments allowable by law. A woman should be given an unencumbered opportunity to bring to justice anyone, that takes advantage of them and their bodies. They should be allowed to bring into court any pertinent evidence that casts the perpetrator in as damaging a light as the law allows.

It is true that filthy crimes of this nature are seldom committed in public where witnesses can collaborate an accusation.  However, this is true of most serious crimes, and that unfortunate fact, does not change the burden of proof.

A man, or a woman for that matter, presumably enters court innocent until proven otherwise. In such cases the accuser can bring into court any past behavior or a propensity to commit such a crime. Thus is the character of our court system, and the reason we have juries of our peers, to weigh the facts, and dispense the entitled punishment, or exonerate. Nothing should interfere with the process that we have in place.

This is not a unique position that I propose.. It was the law of the land...



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"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,....  nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation".
-U.S. Constitution: Amendment V

1 posted on 10/15/2003 10:05:11 PM PDT by carlo3b
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2 posted on 10/15/2003 10:09:52 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
-U.S. Constitution: Amendment VI

3 posted on 10/15/2003 10:10:36 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
-U.S. Constitution: Amendment XIII

4 posted on 10/15/2003 10:11:05 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Excellent, Carlo!

Add me to your ping list, please?!
5 posted on 10/15/2003 10:16:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: carlo3b
 
"We are the people our parents warned us about."
                                             -Jimmy Buffett
6 posted on 10/15/2003 10:16:51 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Indeed I will, Thank you..
7 posted on 10/15/2003 10:18:07 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Awww Carlo this is gonna take some deep thought on my part and all I ever really wanted was a low fat deep dish apple cobbler recipe...........:o)

Marked for read later !......Stay Safe !

8 posted on 10/15/2003 10:18:44 PM PDT by Squantos ("Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex.")
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To: Squantos
This has less Carbs.. LOL
9 posted on 10/15/2003 10:20:57 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Agree...........Stay Safe !
10 posted on 10/15/2003 10:25:16 PM PDT by Squantos ("Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex.")
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To: carlo3b
 

"A thief believes everybody steals."
-E.W. Howe

11 posted on 10/15/2003 10:26:13 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
"We can try to avoid making choices by doing nothing, but even that is a decision."
       -Gary Collins

12 posted on 10/15/2003 10:26:55 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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Bestiality: a perverted sex act between a human and a Democrat
13 posted on 10/15/2003 10:41:05 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Confession may be good for my soul, but it sure plays hell with my reputation.)
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Bestiality: a perverted sex act between a human and a Democrat

And verse visa

14 posted on 10/15/2003 10:45:10 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Thanks for the ping carlo. Good to think about this.
15 posted on 10/15/2003 11:05:43 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poets' Rock the Boat!!)
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To: bentfeather
Thank you... Food for thought is as healthy as the body. Both require nourishment to flourish.
16 posted on 10/15/2003 11:22:49 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
I like that one, a favorite in our house is:

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
'Free Will' by Rush.
17 posted on 10/16/2003 3:50:27 AM PDT by fml
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To: razorback-bert
"Bestiality: a perverted sex act between a human and a Democrat"


...I like Mary Matlin and I hate to think that about her...Maybe she and Carville don't really "do it"
18 posted on 10/16/2003 4:02:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: carlo3b
It is a besetting vice of democracies to substitute public opinion for law. This is the usual form in which masses (of men) exhibit their tyranny."

A sad truth and one not generally recognized or acknowledged by either Democrats or Republicans..

19 posted on 10/16/2003 4:05:13 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: carlo3b
There are no facts, only interpretations."

Nietzsche was/is wrong.

20 posted on 10/16/2003 4:06:21 AM PDT by laredo44
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