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To: CodeMonkey
That's the same as in Abraham St. Lincoln's First Inaugural statement where he erroneously pledges to defend the GOVERNMENT of the United States, but his Oath of Office required a pledge to defend the CONSTITUTION.

In defense of the government as he saw it, 620,000+ fine men became immortals.

I know, that's an issue for elsewhere. I know...
84 posted on 10/16/2003 11:47:41 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
The South seceded for the most anti(classical) liberal reason: to defend the right of property in other human beings. That was the only "state right" that was threatened by Lincoln. As a Southerner I find the South's secession to be the real reason why the "republic died in 1860." Had the South not resorted to such extremism and emancipated its slaves voluntarily the growth of the federal government that resulted from the Civil War would never have happened and we'd be a much freer country today. Blame the South, not the rest of the Union for the Civil War. The rest of the Union was perfectly justified in forcing the South back into the Union because fighting for a right to own another human being is only a few shades less immoral than fighting for the right to slaughter ethnic minorities at will.
89 posted on 10/16/2003 11:58:35 AM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: azhenfud
Look at you causing trouble ;)
201 posted on 10/16/2003 2:13:17 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: azhenfud
I know, that's an issue for elsewhere. I know...

Then please take it there.


202 posted on 10/16/2003 2:16:15 PM PDT by rdb3 (Just to make a statement...)
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