Berkeley Defends Admitting the Stupid

NewsMax ^ | 10/17/03 | Limbacher

[longtermmemmory]

If I had a job applicant with a degree from berkley, my first thoughts would be that this person is a leftist wacko.

[johnb838]

Yes, that's right. And it was in Cali, I just can't remember where. I just remember he screwed up a plastic surgery, the patient got an infection and almost died, and he kept the person in a back room in his office for 48 hours. They let him keep practicing, and after a while he did the same thing -- botching an operation and then kidnapping the victim, but this time the patient died. Then I think he lost his license.

This was the person admitted over Allen Bakke in the notorious Bakke vs. California case from the late seventies.

[GunsareOK]

I'll bet it's a high probability that they're a leftist if they graduated with a degree in Sociology, Education, Psychology or even English or History.

An engineering or science major might well be more conservative. I'll bet a lot of the Asian students hit the books for four years and try to avoid the leftwing claptrap.

[JerseyHighlander]

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[Levante]

"Berkeley Defends Admitting the Stupid"

That explains alot!

[expatpat]

There was a black member of the faculty at U. Chicago (IIRC) who was puzzled over why there were such a lot of minorities in remedial class when they were in the top 5% of the population.

Then he discovered that the whites/asians at the U. were in the top 0.5%, or so. He concluded that the black kids would have done fine at a college where the rest of the students were in the top 5%, but were being set up to fail by this diversity admissions crap.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

[".....reasoned discourse about complex issues...."]

Translation: "Sit down and shut up. We have an agenda and we are going to do whatever we please. But keep the donations coming anyway."

[PsyOp]

I garantee they're getting grants and scholarships that are intended for smart kids with "financial" disadvantages. These kids should be in community college taking remedial classes. No wonder they were against Prop 54.

[longtermmemmory]

I personally know of a law school that had a "crisis" meeting because all their first year black male students flunked out about 10 years ago.

Then they had a scandal because the law school paid for tutoring availble ONLY to black males to minimize the first year flunk out rate for black males. When the secret program was revealed it was "abolished" but at the same time the law school introduced a new black only scholarship to pay for tutors.

At least the Bar Examiners did not cave to dual track pass grades.

The Affirmative Action Bake sale had it right.

[Diago]

...so a monkey picking answers at random should do better than 600...

Yes, and imagine the disadvantages it has overcome.

[SauronOfMordor]

Homeschooled twelve year olds would probably do much better too.

Most homeschooled 9 year olds would do better than 600 SAT

[Qwinn]

I scored 1200 when I took it (out of a Barron's SAT book) in the summer after 9th grade. 1360 on my PSAT's. 1460 on my SAT's when I took them for real my Junior year.

My education? Catholic School until 7th grade, public after that. Most of what I learned and retained, I learned while I was in Catholic School.

Qwinn

[ridesthemiles]

(Liberals are very sensitive when SAT data is used against them because they can not effectively defend against it. If a majority of the black/hispanic affirmative action students with low SAT scores entered the university and graduate with good grades, then one can argue that SAT scores is not a good indicator. This is not true. SAT scores and the probability that the student will graduate from college are linked. Most students who fail college entered with low SAT scores. Very rarely does students with high SAT scores fail college. That is why the SAT was developed for pre-college testing. College is not cheap for families and taxpayers. It should not be squandered in a PC experiment, it should be givened to students who are qualified. ) Combine all of the above with giving free tuition to illegal immigrants and what do you have? How does the Univ know the SAT score of the ILLLEGAL immigrant student? Since more than 50% of my property taxes supports the school system, thie offends me highly. Ask me what I could have done with the school tax portion of my property taxes since 1966 on 3 homes. That would put alot of money inth the "economy" or into savings. Instead, it is gone, squandered, and this is the hubris of the big shots in charge. If anyone on FR that doesn't live in Calif doesn't understand why we threw Davis out of office, this is just a little peek at the problems out here. PLEASE, Arnold- STOP THE MADNESS!

[radiohead]

I don't disagree, but I'm curious, do you see this as the role of the community colleges?

[cyberjet31]

Hey- i have been on Free Republic for quite a while now, but still dont know some of the lingo....I don't know what a Ping is or how to do it, and i think Bump means "Got it!" or "Sounds Good!" or something along those lines....

[longtermmemmory]

most states have community colleges as a means of stepping into the four year schools. Get a two year degree and you are automatically admitted to the state system.

Why should the unqualified get a free pass only because of skin color. Community colleges have always been set up with the ability of helping those who need to "get in shape" for academic advancement.

[.cnI redruM]

Not that UCLA is any better, but sitting in the Rose Bowl on a fine LA afternoon and yelling "Run, Forest! Run!" at the Berkley students would vastly improve a PAC10 football game.

[UncleDick]

Why would anyone intelligent want to go to Berkley anyway?

To get a high quality, publicly funded education. Berkeley is constantly ranked at the top of the list when to comes to public universities.

[Fred Hayek]

I worked with a chemical engineering graduate from Berzerkley. Turned out to be a Maoist feminazi.

[SauronOfMordor]

Most of what I learned and retained, I learned while I was in Catholic School.

I'm a big fan of Catholic school, having gone there 6th thru 12th grade. I learned programming in BASIC in my freshman year of HS (while this is not a big deal in 2003, this was in 1971 -- we had a teletype timesharing link to a PDP system) and electronics in my senior year

Homeschooling produces good results too, and for the same reasons: being taught by somebody who is passionate about the student becoming capable.

My oldest was homeschooled since 1st grade. She got a 1300 on her SAT in 8th grade, and took her first university course the summer after 8th (Bio I)