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To: xrp
There aren't 20,000 FreeStaters!

That's the point.

They don't exist.

It's a (ahem) "pipe dream."

10 posted on 10/17/2003 4:28:56 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
5,000 people aren't a pipe dream.
11 posted on 10/17/2003 4:30:55 PM PDT by John Farson (Cthulu for President -- why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: billorites
You failed to respond to my challenge.
13 posted on 10/17/2003 4:31:54 PM PDT by xrp
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To: billorites
There aren't 20,000 FreeStaters!

Right now there are over 5k. If you would bother to read the information plainly laid out on the website, the plan is for 20k. The plan outlined by this 'fantasy' is actually well AHEAD of schedule. Not too shabby for a 'pipe dream'...JFK

24 posted on 10/17/2003 6:30:48 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: billorites
There aren't 20,000 FreeStaters!

That's the point.

They don't exist.

It's a (ahem) "pipe dream."

Your information isn't up-to-date. In the year 2000 they didn't exist; the signups began around this time of the year in 2001, beginning with founder Jason Sorens. About a year later, they had the first thousand. A year after that, 5000 [now]. The projection for the immediate future, based on the expansion of the numbers at a very conservative doubling of those 5K members now present will have 10K by this time next year. And a year after that, doubled again, they'll begin making the move once that 20,000 number is reached; some are not waiting, and at least two FReeper Porcupines are hoping to be resident in the Granite State before New Years. But once there are 20K, they have 5 years in which to make the move; assuming 20,000 are signed on by 30 October 2005, the migration should be complete by the end of the decade.

But the recruitment of new Porcupines will NOT be halted once 20K are signed on; and as it continues that will ensure that at *least* 20K make the move at a minimum. But supposing those numbers continue to double annually- and to date, they've more than doubled.

2000- No FSP
Oct 2001- 1 member
Oct 2002- 1000 pledged FSPers
Oct 2003- 5000 pledged FSPers; NH state picked for project;
Oct 2004- 10,000 Porcupines [projected- if the 2003 # [only] doubles]
Oct 2005- 20,000 Porcupines [projected- double the 2004 figure. And with that 20K goal reached, it's time to move!

With a period of five years to actually make that move. And in that time, if the numbers continue at the previous rate [and don't actually increase!]

Oct 2006- 40,000 Porcupines
Oct 2007- 80,000 Porcupines
Oct 2008- 160,000 Porcupines
Oct 2009- 320,000 Porcupines
Oct 2010- 640,000 Porcupines- at least a half-million plus. And of course most of the children who were 10 years of age in the year 2000 will be of legal age to vote in the 2008 November elections; certainly by 2010.

But just going back to those 20,000 voting Porcupines:

For a start, let's just see what can be done with 20,000 new FSP NH Porcupines. And, of course, a quarter-million NH *Undeclared*:

NH State voter registration, September ’02 2001 [after list purge]

REPUBLICANS 245,791/ 37.3%
UNDECLARED 242,028/ 36.8%
DEMOCRATS 170,405/ 25.9%

And if the NH Porcupine numbers do happen to reach a half million or more by the end of the latter half of the decade, there'd be enough Porcupine voters to outnumber the Republicans and Democrats combined.

In practical terms, I think it more likely that should that point be reached, some of those would more likely assist the Western effort, or begin building another nest of Porcupines in a second Eastern seaboard location; hopefully contiguous to NH. But what if the increase remains the same as it did from 2002-2003 and increases fivefold? Or even grows beyond that figure? What then?

-archy-/-

26 posted on 10/18/2003 1:42:08 AM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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