Stone Of Destiny - Stone Of Scone - Stonel Tea Tephi

Bertrand L. Comparet was a native Californian, born in San Diego. He was graduated from Stanford University with the degree of Bachelor of Arts and Juris Doctor. He was admitted to the California Supreme Court or California Bar in 1926 and by the United States Supreme Court in 1956. From 1926 to 1932 he was a Deputy District Attorney in San Diego County and from 1942 to 1947 was Deputy City Attorney for the City of San Diego. Since that time he has been in private law practice. Pastor Bertrand L. Comparet started teaching in 1933 and continued for over 40 years. He returned to the Father in August of 1983. If you do an Internet search on "Bertrand Comparet" you will find many of his sermons."

In the Coronation Chair in Westminster Abbey in London is an oblong block of sandstone, upon which all of England's kings have been crowned for several centuries--and before that, the kings of Scotland, and before them the kings of Ireland. This is another bit of evidence of the identity of the Anglo-Saxon people as the Israel of the Bible, and that the House of David still rules over them.

The history of this stone begins in the 28th chapter of Genesis, where we read that Jacob camped overnight in a field, and for his pillow used a stone with his folded cloak over it. During the night, God appeared to him in a vision, and promised to give him the Land of Canaan. When Jacob awoke, he said, "this is the house of God," and named the place Beth-el, meaning "House of God." Then he took the stone he had used as his pillow and set it up as a monument, and dedicated it with an offering of oil. He promised that, if God would help him, "then shall the Lord be my God: and this stone which I have set for a monument shall be God's house."

In Genesis 34, God instructs him to go back to Bethel and set up an altar to God, which Jacob did. It was at this time that God changed Jacob's name to Israel; and Israel again set up and dedicated as a monument of witness the stone pillar which he had dedicated as "God's house." Its sacred character was now firmly established.

We next find mention of it in Genesis 49, when the aged Israel, before he dies, tells his 12 sons what will befall their respective descendants in the last days. Speaking of Joseph, he says, "From thence is the shepherd of the Stone of Israel." We should, therefore, expect to find the Stone in custody of the sons of Joseph in the last days. The English are the Tribe of Ephraim, descended from one of Joseph's sons. Its sacred character having been established, the stone would not be thereafter abandoned.

We next hear of it when the Children of Israel, in their exodus from Egypt, were facing death by thirst in the desert. God instructed Moses, "I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink"; thus they were saved from death. This miracle was repeated later, but this time Moses was instructed merely to speak to the rock, not strike it; because Moses disobeyed God and hit the rock in a "grandstand play" before the people, he was not allowed to enter the Promised Land. We must not think that this rock was merely the native rock cliffs of these desert places, for in 1 Corinthians 10: 1-4, Paul says "all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea ... and did all drink the same spiritual drink, for they drank of that spiritual Rock THAT FOLLOWED THEM, and that Rock was Christ. " That is, they were given water to drink from a rock which was carried along with them; and as Israel had said, "this stone which I have set up for a monument shall be God's house," so Christ hallowed it with His presence.

After Joshua had conquered the Promised Land and divided it among the 12 Tribes, he reminded them that they must ever be loyal to God, and he set up a stone as a monument of witness to this warning; the Hebrew says he took "the stone of greatness" --and what would that be, or what more fitting witness could there be, but the stone which was "God's house"?

Before God ever allowed Israel to have a king, the rebel Abimelech had himself crowned king beside this pillar or monument (Judges 9: 6). Later, when the lawful monarchy was established in the House of David, we find it was the custom that the king be crowned standing by the "pillar" or monument, for we read in 2 Kings 11: 12-14, "And he brought forth the king's son and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and annointed him; and they clapped their hands and said, God save the king. And when Athaliah heard the noise of the guard and of the people, she came to the people into the Temple of the Lord. And when she looked, behold, the king stood hy a pillar, as the manner was and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced. "

The Stone had become a sacred relic, a witness of the mutual promises of God and of the Children of Israel. It would be found close to the Temple and the throne. Upon the fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar, 2 Maccabees 2: 4-8 says that ancient records stated that Jeremiah had taken the Ark of the Covenant and the Tabernacle and had hidden them in a cave on Mount Nebo.

While 1 Samuel 4-5 records the capture of the Ark by the Philistines, and its return, there is no mention of it being taken by the Babylonians, so the ancient record of the Ark being hidden must be correct. Along with the Ark, we may be sure that Jeremiah would also safely hide the sacred Witness Stone, "God's house," which had twice been used to give water to the people to save them from death, and which was now used in the coronation of the kings.

When I spoke to you on "What Jeremiah Planted," I told you how Jeremiah and the daughters of the last King of Judah, Zedekiah, were taken to Egypt with the refugees; but in order to fulfill God's prophecy that Jeremiah was also "to build and to plant," Jeremiah had to leave Egypt and take the princess to where another Israelite kingdom was then in existence--in Ireland. We know that with Jeremiah went Baruch, his scribe, and the king's daughter; and with the princess, he would also certainly take the hidden Stone upon which the kings were crowned.

The ancient Irish records record the coming of "the Great Prophet," "Brugh" his scribe (obviously Baruch), and the daughter of a king, about 583 B.C., which would be the correct date; and that with them they brought the "Wonderful Stone," or "Stone of Destiny." In one of our congregations is a woman whose family genealogy shows that one of their ancestors came to Ireland with Jeremiah, and that this ancestor's duty was that of custodian of the Stonel Tea Tephi, the king's daughter, married Eochaidh the Heremon, or Chief King, of Ireland.

The stone, called "Lia Fail" or "Stone of Destiny" was kept at the capital city of Tara for some three centuries, and all the kings, descendants of Eochaidh and Tea Tephi, were crowned on it. Then, about 350 B.C., it was sent to Scotland for the coronation of Fergus, King of Scots, who was a descendant of the Milesian kings of Ireland. It remained in Scotland, and all Scottish kings were crowned on it, until 1297 A.D. when King Edward I of England invaded Scotland and captured the Stone, which he took to England, where it was placed in Westminster Abbey, its home ever since that date. It was built into the Coronation Chair--the oldest piece of furniture in England still serving its original purpose--and all English kings have been crowned on it ever since.

Its origin was well known during the entire time it has been in the British Isles, and from practically the first it was called "Jacob's Stone. " William of Rislanger, writing in the 13th century, records the coronation of John de Baliol as King of Scotland in the year 1292 "upon the stone upon which Jacob placed his head. "

While the ten-tribed nation of Israel had to "abide many days without a king" as God prophesied in Hosea 3: 4, yet there must always be a royal family of David's line on the throne over some Israelite people, for God promised through Jeremiah (33: 17) that "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel."

We know that Eochaidh the Heremon was of the Milesian line of Kings of Ireland, and that the Milesians in Ireland were descendants of Zarah, a son of Judah; and that Tea Tephi was a descendant of David, who was also of the Royal Tribe of Judah through Judah's son, Pharez. So the two royal lines of Judah were united with the marriage of Eochaidh and Tea Tephi, and a descendant of David was always on the throne over Israelite people, as God had promised.

The Ark of the Covenant belonged in the Temple; and the Temple was not to be a continuous institution like the Throne of David; so it is not surprising that the Ark has disappeared from history, and probably will not be revealed again until Jesus Christ returns to reign upon the Throne of David, as is prophesied in Isaiah 9: 7.

But the Throne was to be a continuous throne (Jeremiah 33: 17); therefore, it is only logical that the Coronation Stone, which the Hebrews had called "The Stone of Majesty" and "The Pillar of Witness," should be found where the Throne of David had its continued existence. After all, it was "The Pillar of Witness" for it had been made witness to both Israel's promise to be God's People and God's promise to be their God. It should be there, as a witness that God always makes good His promises, and "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the Throne of the House of Israel."

Subsequent to the time when Dr. Comparet delivered the foregoing address, Mr. E. Raymond Capt, author of "The Glory of the Stars," "Great Pyramid Decoded," and other writings, stated that new evidence, recently discovered, indicates that the transfer of the throne of David from Palestine to Europe may have been accomplished in a different manner than what is commonly believed.

According to the older tradition, the daughters of Zedekiah were Tamar Tephi (known to her family and friends as Tea Tephi or Tea), and her younger sister, Scota; and this Tamar Tephi, or Tea, was married to Eochaidh in Ireland. The new evidence mentioned by Mr. Capt is discussed on pages 6465 of his book, "King Solomon's Temple," in which he quotes Ezekiel 17. 22, which says: "Thus saith the Lord God; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set it; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant it upon an high mountain and eminent." Mr. Capt then says: "This was fulfilled when Scota, King Zedekiah's daughter (the tender twig), was taken to Egypt by Jeremiah and then to Spain where she married 'ane Greyk callit Gathelus, son of Cecrops of Athens, King of Argives' (The Chronicles of Scotland by Hector Boece). In due time a son was born and was named 'Eochaidh' (Eremhon or King).

"There is a tradition that when Jeremiah brought Scota to Spain, he also brought the 'stone' upon which Jacob laid his head, at Bethel, when he had the vision of a ladder extending to heaven (Gen. 28: 12-19). This -was the 'stone' used as a Coronation Stone in Solomon's Temple. Second Kings 11: 11-14 tells of the anointing of a king, after which all the men around the king 'clapped their hands' and said, 'God save the King' while 'the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the kin ."

'From the 'Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters,' we find the following statement: 'Tea, the daughter of Loghaldh, son of Ith, whom Eremhon married in Spain was the Tea who requested of Eremhon a choice hill as her dower, in whatever place she should select it, that she might be interred therein. The hill she selected was Druimcaein, i.e. Teamhair (in Ireland)' (Vol. 1, pg. 31).

"This is only one of many historical records that place, not only Tea in Ireland, but her husband Eochaidh, 'the Heremon' (chief or King). At this same time there appeared, with Eochaidh (brought by Dedannans and set up at Tara as the inauguration stone of Irish Kings - Encyclopedia Britannica 14th ed.) a stone of red sandstone, a type found in Palestine. It had iron rings fastened at each end which could have been used for porter poles. The stone became known by the name 'Lia Fail' and 'Stone of Destiny.' It is not unlikely that Jacob's Stone and the 'Stone of Destiny' were one and the same. " By whatever course the throne of David may have been carried to Europe, it is nevertheless a fact that it was eventually transferred to Ireland, then Scotland, and then England.

I reviewed this thread, and have a couple of comments.

First, not all Middle Easterners are Semitic. The ancient Persians spoke an Indo-European language and there is considerable evidence that indicates that at least the Persian aristocracy was generally European in appearance, as were the Aryan invaders of India. Even to this day, some high caste Indians, especially in that nation's north, could pass for Europeans. One of Paul's epistles was to the Galatians, a nation in what is now Turkey that was Celtic in origin. (FWIW, Kemel Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey, had reddish blond hair and blue eyes.)

Second, the Middle Eastern genetic marker found in Europeans declines as you go from the continent's southeast (Bulgaria and Greece) to its northwest. The British Isles are in the extreme northwest of Europe, and thus would have the lowest frequency of this marker. This would not support Anglo-Israel suppositions about the origins of the Celtic and Germanic peoples.

"Similarities in names are not in themselves proof of a common ancestral origin. In the United States, we have Danbury, Connecticut, Danville, Virginia, Danboro, Pennsylvania, Danvers, Massachusetts, and Dansville, New York. Do those names indicate that the Ten Lost Tribes settled our Eastern Seaboard? "

Everything that we are came from somewhere, huh? Dan's name is really getting around. Someone brought all those 'Dan's' with them from somewhere, huh?

Could this explain that blessing given to Joseph, he got a double blessing?

Might even go a step to explaining why Christ told the disciples to go first to the "lost sheep" of the house of Israel.

Interesting what that it was King James that saw to it that the common man, each individual had access to written word.

Now Ezekiel 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until He come Whose right it is; and I will give it Him.

How many times has that Stone of Destiny been overturned to date?

I had always been told that the term "Black Irish" describes people who were descended from survivors of the disastrous Spanish Armada, who ended up stranded in Ireland.

However, I have been doing a little research this morning and there is some reason to believe that this is a myth that the English used to demonize the Irish, since the Spanish were considered enemies for so many years.

I also found out that there are people who are called the "Black Dutch" who are believed to have descended from Sephardic Jews who fled to Holland during the Inquisition.

Interestingly, Celts in France also show the same two types...darker-haired "black" types as well as the red-haired, green-eyed variety.

This does not contribute greatly to the origin of the Stone of Scone, but does indicate that using physical characteristics is not really proof of anything.

Has anyone ever taken a small sample of the stone to see where the rock originated? I would imagine that a piece of sandstone could be traced back to its country of origin, given the geological records that are now on computer.

There is one big problem with what you claim.

It is written that the TWO HOUSES were not taken captive at the same time nor by the same people.

The Ten Tribes the Northern Kingdom were taken captive by the "ASSYRIAN" King and taken North. The House of Judah and Benjamin were taken to Babylon.

Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin.

Now each of these tribes were given distinct blessings clear back in the book of Genesis. If one reads what is given and promised to these twelve and the promise given to Abraham, then the "MODERN" historians and "Theory-ogians" have no credibility.

But hey each one to his own our Heavenly Father did not loose his "SHEEP", as it is written the "SHEEP" don't know who they are, as was prophesied over and over and over again.

Also as it is written it will be Christ himself that will rejoin the two houses at His return.

Sorry, Christian Identy movement "racist movement" not unlike so many other movements takes a bit here and there to advocate what they want to believe.

"Aryan" is not used in the Word. To make a claim to be someone whom they are not makes one a fraud. So for you to read a tid bit here or there and "associate" that tib bit to a bunch of nuts is your choice.

You have not studied much of what is WRITTEN to be able to verify what is stated, you have only reacted to what a bunch of nuts take and distort for their own agenda.

Let's not forget that what is written to the children of Israel and about their whoredoms forced our Heavenly Father to divorce them and scatter them to the four corners, so they would not know who they were.

"Has anyone ever taken a small sample of the stone to see where the rock originated? I would imagine that a piece of sandstone could be traced back to its country of origin, given the geological records that are now on computer."

Yup, that seems so simple. My guess is that it has been done already and someone did not like the result...that's why we don't know that result, huh?

"I had always been told that the term "Black Irish" describes people who were descended from survivors of the disastrous Spanish Armada, who ended up stranded in Ireland."

Maybe, I've read in a couple different places that the term 'black Irish' was used prior to that time. I've even read one guy who thinks that the term relates to a tribe of 'Bushmen' who were in Ireland in prehistory. The same guy speculates that these same folks were the source of the myth of Leprechauns...and, the Bushmen do have some traits and habits that are similar to the myths of the Leprechauns. Who knows?

"The ancient Persians spoke an Indo-European language and there is considerable evidence that indicates that at least the Persian aristocracy was generally European in appearance, as were the Aryan invaders of India. Even to this day, some high caste Indians, especially in that nation's north, could pass for Europeans. "

Ryan & Pittman, in their book Noah's Flood (Salt water flooding of the fresh water Black Sea in 5600BC) , speculate that the regugees from this flood streamed up the river valleys feeding the Black Sea and spilled over and into Europe bring farming and the Indo-European language with them. I've taken the thought a bit further and speculate that these same refugees were the Aryan invaders of India and also the source of the 4,000 year old Caucasian mummies (up the Silk Road) found in the deserts of China.

Victor Mair, in his book The Tarim Mummies, has determined that the China mummies spoke the Indo-European language Tocharian A&B, an extinct language. The mummies wore tartan clothing associated with the Celts.

I would really like to hear your comments on whether you believe this or not and anything you may know that is associated with "The Stone Of Destiny.

One of my posessions from my father is a book about the Arbroath Abbey (1178 AD)in Arboath Scotland. (He was born there) Much of the Declaration of Arbroath,(1320 AD) BTW, the basis for the US Declaration of Independance)

In 1957 the Stone was stolen (returned if your'e a Scot) from England to Scotland and missing for a number of months. I remember people asking my father where he thought the Stone might be. He responded each time he did not think he knew, He knew where it was. (But would not say)It was buried where it belonged; in the East end of the Abbey where the alter once was. And that's where they ultimately found it. Had the Brits known thier history they would have started looking there.

In this book, is a picture of the ruins of the Abbey; one of which shows the 'East end'. Handwritten near the pic is a note by the Administrator of the time (1960) noting with an X the exact location where it was eventually found, and the date. Not the date found, the date "received".

Of course, knowing untimately the Stone would be returned - you don't think the Scots would be dumb enough to let the real Stone be found and taken back. Many believe the Stome of Destinay never left Scotland from the 1957 date on. What WAS returned (legend has it) was a replica stone carved from one serving as a cover of a cesspool. The Scots in the know took great joy in knowing future coranations took place with Bristish royalty using the eqaivelent of a toilet seat, in their ceremony.

I believe in the Genesis account of the dispersal of the nations following the Tower of Babel and the confounding of the languages as described in Genesis 11. Given that mankind slowly spread across the earth in the centuries following that event, it is likely that while the descendants of Ham migrated to Africa, for the most part, and those of Japheth to Europe, residual populations remained in the Middle East. Thus the Egyptians and the Canaanites, who were Hamitic, and the Persians and the Hyskos, who were Japhetic (Indo-Europeans) were close physical neighbors to the Semitic nations. The Semitic and Indo-European language families are clearly different in vocabulary and grammar, and their sepration occured at the Tower of Babel. The breakdown from the original Indo-European into Germanic, Keltic, Italic, Sanskrit, etc., took place as the various tribes descended from Japheth spread northward, westward, and eastward from the Middle Eastern point of origin. However, the Tower of Babel event and the subsequent dispersion of humanity began well before 2000 BC, the approximate date of the birth of Abraham, the founder of the Jewish nation. By the time the 12 tribes were conquered and expelled from the Holy Land (7th and 6th Centuries BC), the proto-Celts had settled a large portion of Western and Central Europe, with some Celts also living in Turkey and the proto-Germans had established their territory in northern Germany and Scandinavia, with some possibly in Ukraine.

"I believe in the Genesis account of the dispersal of the nations following the Tower of Babel and the confounding of the languages as described in Genesis 11. "

I'm not very religious so, a lot of the bibical things are unknown to me. My main interests are anthropology/archaeology but, they do cross paths with the religious from time to time.

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