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Dutch Marines Find Possible Biological Weapons In Iraq
NU.nl ^ | 18 oktober 2003 08:41 | NU.nl

Posted on 10/18/2003 12:59:43 AM PDT by sf4dubya

Edited on 10/18/2003 1:13:16 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or biological cargo.

If that proves be this way, it the first time would be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons. It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers. According to the zegsman the projectiles saw?anders there? from then normal and it concerns grenades?waarvan the cargo unclear is.

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and is the projectiles as long as buried. Britse experts will examine the grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate?, thus the zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando. The United States and Great Britain could in March Iraq within for the regime of Saddam Hussein, be repudiated because that mass destruction weapons.

Although American and British troops have gezocht since the end of the armed fight on 1 May niet-aflatend to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, nothing has been so far found. Cia-adviseur the that hunting on mass destruction weapons in Iraq coordinates, David Kay, could month earlier this during an interim report no hard proofs on table lay for the existence of such weapons.

The American and British governments continue believe that eventually can be proved that Saddam were a threat to world peace by the possession of mass destruction weapons. The criticism on the beweegredenen for the war grows however as long as for that absolutely no proof has been found.


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Okay, this isn't breaking on any of the US wires here, but if you can read Dutch, feel free to translate for the rest of us. A Dutch friend is visiting and checked in on his morning news and found this. It's all over the headlines in the Netherlands.
1 posted on 10/18/2003 12:59:44 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: knighthawk
KG9 says: PING!
2 posted on 10/18/2003 1:00:06 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: sf4dubya
It's mean to tease people like this!
3 posted on 10/18/2003 1:01:34 AM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: sf4dubya
If the Dutch find something to be offensive, you know it has to be REALLY bad.
4 posted on 10/18/2003 1:01:45 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: sf4dubya
Well .. what the heck did they find ??
5 posted on 10/18/2003 1:03:01 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: sf4dubya
Dutch friend is translating: potential "grenades" in this case means artillery shells. Evidently found buried in "As Samawah".

Dutch marines in Iraq have found grenades of which contents are not clear. The Minister of Defense in Den Haag doesn't discount chem or bio content. If it turns out that way, signals first discovery of WMD. A dozen artillery shells found on 8 October in province of As Samawah, in Dutch operations area. According to spokesman, the grenades appeared different than normal and the contents are unclear.

According to current procedures, the British were notified and the shells remain buried. British officials will investigate the exact contents of the shells.
6 posted on 10/18/2003 1:06:29 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: sf4dubya
THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or biological cargo. If that proves be this way, it the first time would be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons.

It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers. According to the zegsman ' differently ' than and concern it saw the projectiles normally grenades "of which the cargo is unclear".

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and is the projectiles as long as buried. "British experts will examine the grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate", thus the zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando.

The United States and Great Britain could in March Iraq within for the regime of Saddam Hussein, be repudiated because that mass destruction weapons. Although American and British troops have gezocht since the end of the armed fight on 1 May niet-aflatend to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, nothing has been so far found.

Cia-adviseur the that hunting on mass destruction weapons in Iraq coordinates, David Kay, could month earlier this during an interim report no hard proofs on table lay for the existence of such weapons. The American and British governments continue believe that eventually can be proved that Saddam were a threat to world peace by the possession of mass destruction weapons. The criticism on the beweegredenen for the war grows however as long as for that absolutely no proof has been found.
7 posted on 10/18/2003 1:08:07 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: sf4dubya

Mariniers finds possibly biological weapons

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Last modified: 18 October 2003,09:01 THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or biological cargo. If that proves be this way, it the first time would be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons.

It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers. According to the zegsman ' differently ' than and concern it saw the projectiles normally grenades "of which the cargo is unclear".

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and is the projectiles as long as buried. "British experts will examine the grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate", thus the zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando.

The United States and Great Britain could in March Iraq within for the regime of Saddam Hussein, be repudiated because that mass destruction weapons. Although American and British troops have gezocht since the end of the armed fight on 1 May niet-aflatend to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, nothing has been so far found.

Cia-adviseur the that hunting on mass destruction weapons in Iraq coordinates, David Kay, could month earlier this during an interim report no hard proofs on table lay for the existence of such weapons. The American and British governments continue believe that eventually can be proved that Saddam were a threat to world peace by the possession of mass destruction weapons. The criticism on the beweegredenen for the war grows however as long as for that absolutely no proof has been found.

(c) DUTCH PRESS AGENCY

8 posted on 10/18/2003 1:09:30 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: Admin Moderator
Can you fix title from:

Dutch Marines Find Biological Weapons In Iraq

to:

Dutch Marines Find Possible Biological Weapons In Iraq
9 posted on 10/18/2003 1:09:52 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: sf4dubya
Wait until the egg hatches to see if it is a rooster or not. The title for this article is premature.
10 posted on 10/18/2003 1:10:03 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Qwinn
Very interesting. I hope it turns out to be true.

Qwinn
11 posted on 10/18/2003 1:10:16 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Destro
A word was lost in the translation -- I ping'd for a fix. :)
12 posted on 10/18/2003 1:10:56 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: sf4dubya
Google translator won't work for Dutch, only for German and such
13 posted on 10/18/2003 1:11:18 AM PDT by GeronL (Please visit http://freestateparty.50megs.com and www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: sf4dubya
could be smoke grenades
14 posted on 10/18/2003 1:11:46 AM PDT by GeronL (Please visit http://freestateparty.50megs.com and www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: sf4dubya
Biologically-loaded chemical shells, it seems to say. What does this mean?
15 posted on 10/18/2003 1:12:49 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Unknowing
It means they are investigating. They are shells, not grenades. The web translators don't work -- I have a Dutch speaking person here who is trying to translate what he's seeing on Dutch tv and web. The story hasn't been updated in an hour.
16 posted on 10/18/2003 1:14:16 AM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: Unknowing
Biologically-loaded chemical shells, it seems to say. What does this mean?

All it means is they found something of interest.

17 posted on 10/18/2003 1:14:41 AM PDT by Terp (Retired US Navy now living in Philippines were the Moutains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: knighthawk
Pinging Knighthawk, pinging Knighthawk!
Please come to the rescue!
18 posted on 10/18/2003 1:16:19 AM PDT by Allan
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To: GeronL
Here is a translation from http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html.

Mariniers finds possibly biological weapons Spent: 18 October 2003 08.41 last modified: 18 October 2003 09.01

THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or biological cargo. If that proves be this way, it the first time would be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons.

It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers. According to the zegsman ' differently ' than and concern it saw the projectiles normally grenades "of which the cargo is unclear".

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and is the projectiles as long as buried. "British experts will examine the grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate", thus the zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando.

The United States and Great Britain could in March Iraq within for the regime of Saddam Hussein, be repudiated because that mass destruction weapons. Although American and British troops have gezocht since the end of the armed fight on 1 May niet-aflatend to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, nothing has been so far found.

Cia-adviseur the that hunting on mass destruction weapons in Iraq coordinates, David Kay, could month earlier this during an interim report no hard proofs on table lay for the existence of such weapons. The American and British governments continue believe that eventually can be proved that Saddam were a threat to world peace by the possession of mass destruction weapons. The criticism on the beweegredenen for the war grows however as long as for that absolutely no proof has been found.
19 posted on 10/18/2003 1:16:59 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: knighthawk
Oh! By magic
suddenly the Dutch is gone
and English appears.
Anyway, Knighthawk,
we'd like to know what they are saying over there.
20 posted on 10/18/2003 1:18:11 AM PDT by Allan
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To: sf4dubya
THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or biological cargo. If that proves be this way, it the first time would be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons.

It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers. According to the zegsman ' differently ' than and concern it saw the projectiles normally grenades "of which the cargo is unclear".

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and is the projectiles as long as buried. "British experts will examine the grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate", thus the zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando.

The United States and Great Britain could in March Iraq within for the regime of Saddam Hussein, be repudiated because that mass destruction weapons. Although American and British troops have gezocht since the end of the armed fight on 1 May niet-aflatend to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, nothing has been so far found.

Cia-adviseur the that hunting on mass destruction weapons in Iraq coordinates, David Kay, could month earlier this during an interim report no hard proofs on table lay for the existence of such weapons. The American and British governments continue believe that eventually can be proved that Saddam were a threat to world peace by the possession of mass destruction weapons. The criticism on the beweegredenen for the war grows however as long as for that absolutely no proof has been found.

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The translation to grenade is probably 'shell'...
Free translation by:
http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

A map of the local: In the line of the Western strike force... http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?countryid=113&addtohistory=&country=IQ&city=Samawa&submit=Get+Map
21 posted on 10/18/2003 1:20:30 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander (Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!)
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To: SubMareener; All
I go to find a map for 5 minutes and I'm completely behind the ball around here.
22 posted on 10/18/2003 1:23:27 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander (Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!)
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Mariniers finds possibly biological weapons

Spent: 18 October 2003 08.41 last modified: 18 October 2003 09.01

THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the
cargo is not clear. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not
exclude that possibly talk is of grenades with a chemical or
biological cargo. If that proves be this way, it the first time would
be that has been found there in Iraq such weapons.

It concerns ten artillery grenades which were discovered on 8 October
in the province ash Samawah, the area where operate the mariniers.
According to the zegsman differently than and concern it saw the
projectiles normally grenades of which the cargo is unclear.

According to the applying procedure the British army ingeseind is and
is the projectiles as long as buried. British experts will examine the
grenades and the exact composition of the cargo to stipulate, thus the
zegsman. The Dutch mariniers to stand under British commando.

http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box http://www.slcir.org/Machine%20Translation.htm
23 posted on 10/18/2003 1:23:35 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian
IMHO, this is going to be the real deal.

Having the trusted, peace loving Dutch find the first hard evidence of WMDs will take the argument away from the left that us Americans - lead by the sinister Bush - intentionally planted the WMDs there.

Should be fun following this story.
24 posted on 10/18/2003 3:07:38 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: sf4dubya
My prediction: once they analyze the contents of the shells they'll be found to contain fertilizer. (end/sarcasm)
25 posted on 10/18/2003 3:49:16 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: sf4dubya
Howard Dean is deeply saddened.Bush planted them there.
26 posted on 10/18/2003 4:27:39 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: sf4dubya
What do they look like? Do they have a "green" or other marker?

Chemical warhead at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry
. Trace amounts of a nerve agent was found
in two spots on the ~meter long warhead. The amounts could are consistent with
leakage from a chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next
to it.


27 posted on 10/18/2003 4:28:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: sf4dubya
Ah hah!! Could be there was so much chem/bio weaponry in Iraq at one time that they couldn't find it all and clean it all up before the invasion. Then again, it could be a covert op by MI6. Has anyone seen Commander Bond in the middle east lately?
28 posted on 10/18/2003 4:33:33 AM PDT by defenderSD (Throw deep........you're already in the fourth quarter.)
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To: sf4dubya; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
major ping
29 posted on 10/18/2003 4:49:12 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: sf4dubya
Bump.
30 posted on 10/18/2003 5:42:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: sf4dubya; Allan
THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq have found shells of which the contents is unknown. The ministry of defence in The Hague does not exclude that these shells are loaded with a chemical or biological load. If that proves to be this way, it would be the first time there have been found such weapons in Iraq.

It concerns ten artillery shells which were discovered on October 8 in the province As Samawah, the area where the Royal Dutch Marines operate. According to the spokesman the projectiles looked different than usual and it concerns shells of which the load is unclear of.

According to the applying procedure the British army has been notified and is the projectiles are buried for now. Britse experts will examine the grenades to reveal the exact composition of the ordenance, according to the spokesman. The Dutch mariniers are under British commando.

The United States and Great Britain invaded Iraq to remove the regime of Saddam Hussein, because he was supposed to have weapons of mass destruction. Although American and British troops have been looking for them since the end of the armed battle on May 1th for nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, nothing has been found up to now.
The CIA-advisor that is coordinating the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, David Kay, could not produce hard evidence in a report earlier this month to prove the existence of such weapons. The American and British government continue to believe that eventually it can be proved that Saddam was a threat to world peace by his possession of weapons of mass destruction. The criticism on the arguments for the war continues to grows however as long there is no proof found.

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A quick one.
31 posted on 10/18/2003 6:26:32 AM PDT by knighthawk (Freedom is my believe, for you I would die)
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To: sf4dubya
For Euros, Dutch finding WMD is more credible than Americans or Brits.

The Mariners were shown where to go look. Give the staff the credit and a pat on the back rather than take it yourself.
32 posted on 10/18/2003 6:36:57 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: sf4dubya
"Dutch"? I thought the US was going it alone. /sarcasm

Seriously, great find as this may be something. I read that Saddam mixed the nasties with the conventional weapons. This would appear to fit that mold...

33 posted on 10/18/2003 6:59:06 AM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: sf4dubya
That last line is so infurating. Does the media everywhere spin spin spin.

David Kay has said the exact opposite. There is a lot of proof that Hussein was indeed seeking to obtain and process biological and chemical weapons.

We must continue to search for the sake of humanity.

34 posted on 10/18/2003 6:59:41 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: sf4dubya
The GW BUSH hating crowd (i.e. DEMOCRATS) will make fun of this type of discovery. "The immenent threat was 8-10 Chemical GRENADES?", "Hardly WMD!!"

Nothing short of a Nuclear Warhead with GW's picture on it and a MIRV capable delivery system found in a hidden bunker downtown BAGHDAD will silence them.

35 posted on 10/18/2003 7:07:36 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: CyberAnt
"Well .. what the heck did they find ??"

THE HAGUE - Dutch mariniers in Iraq has found grenades of which the cargo is not clear.

The translation ain't crystal.
36 posted on 10/18/2003 7:09:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
The story is in the British press now:

Dutch marines clearing munitions in the southern al-Muthana province of Iraq have called in British and American weapons inspectors after finding “a few dozen suspect shells”, a Defence Ministry spokesman in the Netherlands said Saturday.

Some 1,100 Dutch marines have been based in the region since August under the British-led stabilisation force.

“We are there clearing unused and old munitions, some dating back to the Gulf war, and found a few dozen shells of which we aren’t 100 per cent sure of the contents,” spokesman Robin Middel said. “We aren’t saying these are chemical weapons, it could be anything,” he said.

The 130-mm artillery shells found October 8th showed “several indications of some kind of chemical reaction”, Middel said. “They could be regular munitions that have become discoloured by the heat and sun.”

Following standard procedures, Dutch marines buried the suspect munitions in air tight bags 1.5 metres (4 feet) underground, Middel said.

British commanders overseeing the Dutch operation have been informed and weapons experts called to conduct inspections. The Netherlands was not involved in combat operations during the Iraqi war, but gave political support to the United States and provided Turkey with Patriot rocket-defence systems. Scotsman

37 posted on 10/18/2003 7:15:34 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: sf4dubya
Dutch Marines Find ‘Suspect Shells‘ in Iraq

"PA"


Dutch marines clearing munitions in the southern al-Muthana province of Iraq have called in British and American weapons inspectors after finding “a few dozen suspect shells”, a Defence Ministry spokesman in the Netherlands said Saturday.

Some 1,100 Dutch marines have been based in the region since August under the British-led stabilisation force.

“We are there clearing unused and old munitions, some dating back to the Gulf war, and found a few dozen shells of which we aren’t 100 per cent sure of the contents,” spokesman Robin Middel said. “We aren’t saying these are chemical weapons, it could be anything,” he said.

The 130-mm artillery shells found October 8th showed “several indications of some kind of chemical reaction”, Middel said. “They could be regular munitions that have become discoloured by the heat and sun.”

Following standard procedures, Dutch marines buried the suspect munitions in air tight bags 1.5 metres (4 feet) underground, Middel said.

British commanders overseeing the Dutch operation have been informed and weapons experts called to conduct inspections.

The Netherlands was not involved in combat operations during the Iraqi war, but gave political support to the United States and provided Turkey with Patriot rocket-defence systems.

http://www.news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2065547
38 posted on 10/18/2003 7:16:48 AM PDT by knighthawk (Freedom is my believe, for you I would die)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Hi Rags! Alerting you to this news that our Dutch allies may have found weapons of mass destruction!! Developments following this announcement in Dutch papers/media will be interesting. This news doesnt seem to be being broadcast or published here in America yet! (Surprise, surprise!)
39 posted on 10/18/2003 7:19:14 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Hold fast what thou hast received!)
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To: sf4dubya
Here it is from "The Scotsman":

Dutch Marines Find ‘Suspect Shells‘ in Iraq

"PA"


Dutch marines clearing munitions in the southern al-Muthana province of Iraq have called in British and American weapons inspectors after finding “a few dozen suspect shells”, a Defence Ministry spokesman in the Netherlands said Saturday.

Some 1,100 Dutch marines have been based in the region since August under the British-led stabilisation force.

“We are there clearing unused and old munitions, some dating back to the Gulf war, and found a few dozen shells of which we aren’t 100 per cent sure of the contents,” spokesman Robin Middel said. “We aren’t saying these are chemical weapons, it could be anything,” he said.

The 130-mm artillery shells found October 8th showed “several indications of some kind of chemical reaction”, Middel said. “They could be regular munitions that have become discoloured by the heat and sun.”

Following standard procedures, Dutch marines buried the suspect munitions in air tight bags 1.5 metres (4 feet) underground, Middel said.

British commanders overseeing the Dutch operation have been informed and weapons experts called to conduct inspections.

The Netherlands was not involved in combat operations during the Iraqi war, but gave political support to the United States and provided Turkey with Patriot rocket-defence systems.

http://www.news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2065547


40 posted on 10/18/2003 8:11:09 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: sf4dubya
If the press acknowledges this, they will report this as being a yogurt factory and say the "lie" is coming straight from the top (GW Bush).
41 posted on 10/18/2003 8:23:44 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: OldFriend
Yep, love the last line about "no proof". Tell the surviving family members of the 60,000 nerve-gassed Kurds that there is no proof. The US Marines found a group of 20 buildings that were so radioactive that they couldn't enter safely without special suits with forced breathing air. The press's answer for that was medical research.

< /liberal spin on >The Iraqi govt. had nuclear facilities all over the place and special govt. people to oversee it who reported directly to Saddam, but there's no way it could have been nuclear weapons-related. < /liberal spin off >

42 posted on 10/18/2003 8:36:09 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: Diogenesis
"What do they look like? Do they have a "green" or other marker?


Chemical warhead at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band, the symbol for chemical weaponry. Trace amounts of a nerve agent was found in two spots on the ~meter long warhead. The amounts could are consistent with leakage from a chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it."

There you go again! Different nations use different markings on warheads. You are using lame and old information. The warhead found at the airbase was from an Soviet supplied air-to-surface missile. Further analysis of the warhead revealed that it contained nothing more than HE. The original meter reading was bogus and was yet again an embarrassing release by the military and media. Further readings were done and proved negative. It's as bad as you posting that Iraqi SA-2 GUIDELINE surface-to-air missile captured on video footage as it moved through Baghdad on a transporter.
43 posted on 10/18/2003 8:43:12 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: bert
The Mariners were shown where to go look.

And they celebrated after they made the find. ;-)


44 posted on 10/18/2003 8:45:22 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: TEXOKIE
There will never be enough proof for the Rats in this country. They are the new wing of the Al Quada party.
45 posted on 10/18/2003 8:46:10 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: GeronL
I've heard Germans say that Dutch is not a lanquage. They say it's an incurable disease of the throat.
46 posted on 10/18/2003 8:48:43 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Diogenesis
Diogenesis, here is the link to the report:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/13/sprj.irq.kirkuk.warhead/

"Sunday, April 13, 2003 Posted: 0809 GMT ( 4:09 PM HKT)


KIRKUK, Iraq (CNN) -- A second set of preliminary chemical tests conducted Saturday on a warhead discovered at an occupied northern Iraqi airbase in Kirkuk found no trace of chemical weaponry, contradicting earlier tests which found trace amounts of a nerve agent.

The warhead tested at zero on a six-bar scale in two separate "Improved Chemical Agent Monitor" (ICAM) tests conducted by U.S. soldiers after two other tests performed with ICAM equipment by other soldiers scored one bar each time.

One of the soldiers who performed the second set of tests told CNN that nothing much should be read into the findings because no definitive answers will emerge until chemical experts arrive at the base and break into the warhead. Those experts were notified of the warhead's discovery, but it is not clear when they will arrive at the base.

The initial one-bar score would be consistent with some leakage from a chemically armed weapon, military sources had told CNN. The earlier trace amounts were found in two spots on the baseball bat-length warhead -- at the rear and in the middle where there is a screwed-down circular area about the size of a quarter.

The warhead is about the width of a coffee can and is marked with a green band which, military sources told CNN, is the universal symbol for chemical weaponry.

Soldiers were standing guard Saturday outside the storage facility where the warhead was discovered Friday during routine operations to secure the airfield. A big wooden box next to the one containing the warhead had a 13-foot missile in it, though CNN has not been able to confirm a connection between the two.

That missile is but one of many troops have found at the base. Some underground bunkers the size of basketball courts were discovered piled high with cans of munitions, crates of missiles, and number of 1,000-pound bombs.

"It appears as though the airbase was evacuated hastily," Maj. Rob Gowan, a public affairs officer said. "A lot of indicators seem to say that the Iraqi forces that were here left very quickly."

In a separate incident, a man who said he is the base's former commander stepped forward with additional information on possible chemical weaponry.

The former Iraqi air force colonel came to Kirkuk Friday and told military officials he knew of 120 missiles within about an 18-mile radius of Kirkuk -- 24 of those carrying chemical munitions, according to an army intelligence posting at the airfield's military headquarters.

The man said he had been liberated from an Iraqi prison after Kirkuk fell to coalition forces, military intelligence said."


47 posted on 10/18/2003 9:09:36 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: CyberAnt
Well .. what the heck did they find ??

These photos just in from the scene:


48 posted on 10/18/2003 9:19:30 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: GeronL
Google is anti-gun. You'll never find ads for firearms. Porn, yes. Guns and firearms, no. The people who created Google are the type that love Howard Dean, so they are stiffling free speech by not allowing firearms stores to advertise on their search site. Try it. You'll see links but no advertisements on the right side of their search page. Again, free speech only applies to DemoRATs? No wonder it favors German transltions over Dutch...LOL.
49 posted on 10/18/2003 9:22:52 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: sf4dubya
Nah. These aren't WMD's. It's not close enough to the election.

The real WMD's won't show up until around September of next year.

50 posted on 10/18/2003 9:32:04 AM PDT by Action-America (Best President: Reagan * Worst President: Klinton * Worst GOP President: Dubya)
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