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Hilaire Belloc: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed [Chilling Clairvoyance]
The Great Heresies ^ | 1938 | Hilaire Belloc

Posted on 10/18/2003 1:02:52 PM PDT by nwrep


by Hilaire Belloc

Chapter Four

The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed

It might have appeared to any man watching affairs in the earlier years of the seventh century_say from 600 to 630_that only one great main assault having been made against the Church, Arianism and its derivatives, that assault having been repelled and the Faith having won its victory, it was now secure for an indefinite time.

Christendom would have to fight for its life, of course, against outward unchristian things, that is, against Paganism. The nature worshippers of the high Persian civilization to the east would attack us in arms and try to overwhelm us. The savage paganism of barbaric tribes, Scandinavian, German, Slav and Mongol, in the north and centre of Europe would also attack Christendom and try to destroy it. The populations subject to Byzantium would continue to parade heretical views as a label for their grievances. But the main effort of heresy, at least, had failed_so it seemed. Its object, the undoing of a united Catholic civilization, had been missed. The rise of no major heresy need henceforth be feared, still less the consequent disruption of Christendom.

By A.D. 630 all Gaul had long been Catholic. The last of the Arian generals and their garrisons in Italy and Spain had become orthodox. The Arian generals and garrisons of Northern Africa had been conquered by the orthodox armies of the Emperor.

It was just at this moment, a moment of apparently universal and permanent Catholicism, that there fell an unexpected blow of overwhelming magnitude and force. Islam arose_quite suddenly. It came out of the desert and overwhelmed half our civilization.

Islam_the teaching of Mohammed_conquered immediately in arms. Mohammed's Arabian converts charged into Syria and won there two great battles, the first upon the Yarmuk to the east of Palestine in the highlands above the Jordan, the second in Mesopotamia. They went on to overrun Egypt; they pushed further and further into the heart of our Christian civilization with all its grandeur of Rome. They established themselves all over Northern Africa; they raided into Asia Minor, though they did not establish themselves there as yet. They could even occasionally threaten Constantinople itself. At last, a long lifetime after their first victories in Syria, they crossed the Straits of Gibraltar into Western Europe and began to flood Spain. They even got as far as the very heart of Northern France, between Poitiers and Tours, less than a hundred years after their first victories in Syria_in A.D. 732.

They were ultimately thrust back to the Pyrenees, but they continued to hold all Spain except the mountainous north-western corner. They held all Roman Africa, including Egypt, and all Syria. They dominated the whole Mediterranean west and east: held its islands, raided and left armed settlements even on the shores of Gaul and Italy. They spread mightily throughout Hither Asia, overwhelming the Persian realm. They were an increasing menace to Constantinople. Within a hundred years, a main part of the Roman world had fallen under the power of this new and strange force from the Desert.

Such a revolution had never been. No earlier attack had been so sudden, so violent or so permanently successful. Within a score of years from the first assault in 634 the Christian Levant had gone: Syria, the cradle of the Faith, and Egypt with Alexandria, the mighty Christian See. Within a lifetime half the wealth and nearly half the territory of the Christian Roman Empire was in the hands of Mohammedan masters and officials, and the mass of the population was becoming affected more and more by this new thing.

Mohammedan government and influence had taken the place of Christian government and influence, and were on the way to making the bulk of the Mediterranean on the east and the south Mohammedan.

We are about to follow the fortunes of this extraordinary thing which still calls itself Islam, that is, "The Acceptation" of the morals and simple doctrines which Mohammed had preached.

I shall later describe the historical origin of the thing, giving the dates of its progress and the stages of its original success. I shall describe the consolidation of it, its increasing power and the threat which it remained to our civilization. It very nearly destroyed us. It kept up the battle against Christendom actively for a thousand years, and the story is by no means over; the power of Islam may at any moment re-arise.

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To: nwrep
41 posted on 10/18/2003 8:11:37 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: nwrep
Excellent post!

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....

42 posted on 10/18/2003 10:45:53 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: dennisw; nwrep; muawiyah; yonif; SJackson
Curious but also sickening for his lack of courage and faith in western civilization; he is an enemy of the Reformation and the Enlightenment:
The bad work begun at the Reformation is bearing its final fruit in the dissolution of our ancestral doctrines the very structure of our society is dissolving.
Like Adolf Hitler did, he ascribes communism to Jews as though it were something in their blood that would bring on conspiratorial evils to Christendom:
In the place of the old Christian enthusiasms of Europe there came, for a time, the enthusiasm for nationality, the religion of patriotism. But self-worship is not enough, and the forces which are making for the destruction of our culture, notably the Jewish Communist propaganda from Moscow, have a likelier future before them than our old-fashioned patriotism.
And an early enemy of Jewish settlement in their old homelands:
There has been bloodshed under the French mandate more than once and it will be renewed[2]; while under the English mandate the forcing of an alien Jewish colony upon Palestine has raised the animosity of the native Arab population to white heat. Meanwhile a ubiquitous underground Bolshevist propaganda is working throughout Syria and North Africa continually, against the domination of Europeans over the original Mohammedan population.

43 posted on 10/18/2003 10:47:13 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
He is still making a good try. That era was not kind to Jews. Franklin Roosevelt wouldn't take in Jewish refugees nor bomb the rail lines to the death camps.

Spain kicked out the Jews along with the Muslims but it was still a great and historic move. Same with the Crusaders who often left dead Jews in their wake......At least they were taking on Islam.
44 posted on 10/18/2003 11:09:42 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: nwrep
Posted for the upteenth time on FreeRepublic.....
45 posted on 10/18/2003 11:16:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting
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To: genefromjersey
Mo'ham', by islam's own version of history, was an ex-merchant, murdering caravan thief with a gang. Some kind of displaced or outclassed arab James Gang had he. Mo'ham married above his station, twice as I vaguely recall. His night tripping, bummer hash?, one night caused his illiterate fool gang to lay claim to Jerusalem, that alone. Hey, let's kill all the Jews onour way. He smashed all the moon rocks save the big one called allah, kept in the cube tent in Mecca, there today.

Mo'ham' began this death cult promising other arab criminal sociopaths a drunken orgy with six dozen reprocessed virgins for those most successful dead mass murderers in the name of Mo'ham's gang's conquests. What a scam.

Mo'ham's new cult had little competition in the lands of the rigidly stratified near caste systems.
46 posted on 10/18/2003 11:18:19 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: genefromjersey
No, you are wrong in a way. Islam was heavyily influenced by many things including a Arian Christianity.
47 posted on 10/18/2003 11:18:39 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting
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To: genefromjersey
Copts being 10% of the population of Egypt does not qualify as almost vanished.
48 posted on 10/18/2003 11:20:14 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting
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To: SevenDaysInMay
I like it! That's a late night riff from the "More Mad Mo' Blues" volume 1
49 posted on 10/18/2003 11:24:50 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
He is still making a good try.

I'm not sure it's all that useful. To me it seems more like an argument that some forms of tyranny need to be continued because there's an outside threat. And there were people who knew better about the Jews in the 1930s. I don't claim to understand anti-semitism, but I think it's a confluence of misunderstanding Christianity's origins in Judaism, raw xenophobia, and simple scapegoatism. It never had any merit. FDR should never have turned away the St. Louis, and it's an embarassing mark on our history that he did.

By the way, the Japanese were preaching anti-semitism (i.e. blaming "the international Jew") before and during WWII, as well.

In any case, the Belloc clearly doesn't get why the west has been so successful: it's because we've abandoned irrationalism. He blames our supposedly impending downfall (in 1939 this would have been easy) on the abandonment of tradition. This is a very anti-American, anti-modern, and superstitious. How familiar, as we hear that sort of thing today.

The west will survive the current Islamic threat without this guy's alarmist advice.

50 posted on 10/18/2003 11:33:08 PM PDT by risk
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To: Keme
Egyptian Copts, according to the author. ( Book was Plague Wars - a bit of a "droner" , but worth plowing through. )
51 posted on 10/19/2003 4:01:19 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: Destro
Destro,that's by comparison. Before the plague hit them, they were pretty close to being the "state religion" of Egypt, and had begun expanding into what is now Arabia.
52 posted on 10/19/2003 4:03:22 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: genefromjersey
Mohammed, I read somewhere, was originally

You read wrong. Or were informed wrong.

Mohammed was an Arab from Mecca....worshipping a tribal moon god name allah.

53 posted on 10/19/2003 4:33:44 AM PDT by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: xzins
Don't know about moon gods-moon pies,yes.
From what little I've read about Islam ( as written by Islamic people )they weren't into moon gods.
54 posted on 10/19/2003 6:09:33 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: jocon307
>I support standing up for our Judeo/Christian values. I oppose Islamic jihad for world domination. I support opposing those in Islam who would through Jihad impose their perverse Sharia laws on us or anyone, even Muslims. If you wish to see that as a perversion of Christ, you go right ahead and do so.

Just for the record,
when Christ was walking around,
Romans were bent on

world domination.
Many Jews viewed Herod's rule
as perverse Roman

imposition... But
Jesus wasted little breath
on such politics.

Paul, too, didn't waste
a single epistle on
sundry politics.

So, yes, I do wish
to see attempts to recast
the Gospel

a Steven Seagal
as a perversion of
Christ. But, hey, that's me...

55 posted on 10/19/2003 11:19:21 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: genefromjersey
This is from YOUR post #7 Mohammed, I read somewhere, was originally a Jew-though he and his tribe might have been long separated from anything resembling orthodox Judaism.

This is inaccurate.

If you go here Islam and Mohammed you can read a bit about "allah's" place in Mohammed's arabic tribe.....allah was a moon god. Given the history of moon god's in that region, that puts him in league with that pantheistic groupings of god names that come from that'al, ashtoreth, molech, in particular were associated with heavenly bodies that were worshippped.

56 posted on 10/19/2003 12:36:45 PM PDT by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: xzins
This was hardly written by a Muslim !
57 posted on 10/19/2003 12:39:38 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: genefromjersey
It appears that ELSEWHERE you read things NOT written by muslims. No muslim would've written that Mohammed was a jew. Where'd you read that?

And since you read non-muslim material and used it in your proclamations, why not read something else.

Unless, of course, you feel like 'fessing up that you didn't really read anything about mohammed being a jew.....that you...uh...made it up misunderstood and misstated.

58 posted on 10/19/2003 12:44:14 PM PDT by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: theFIRMbss
well, you know, what can I say. Render unto Ceaser, etc. I agree with that.

But, it is the Muslims who have started a relious war, not us. But for us it may end up a religious war, altho' we may get ALL the atheists on our side.

It would be nice to be able to be Christ-like and above it all, but in the fallen world that is not an option.

(OK, and forgive the tagline, my inclination is to remove it, but I am not sick of it yet, so just ignore it, if you will - thanks)
59 posted on 10/19/2003 6:34:51 PM PDT by jocon307 (Chi-town, Bean-town, LITTLE OLD ITALIAN LADIES, they can take your curses off!)
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To: pram
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60 posted on 10/20/2003 2:07:30 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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