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This is a current story despite the date - the trial is now scheduled for November (click here for details).

Forget about "when machineguns are outlawed, only governments will have machineguns" - it's degenerated to "only the FEDERAL government will have machineguns".

I'm sure some of you think that it's a good thing for the gun laws to get inflicted on the cops, and maybe you're right... but for the most part these small-town cops are just regular folks and are getting chewed up and spit out like the rest of us gun owners by Uncle Bug-Breath and the socialist gun-grabbers.

Yeah, they're supposed to obey the law like the rest of us. Yeah, they ought to know better. But if the Feds come out to Yamhill County and drive out in the middle of nowhere to harass some Randy Weaver in their fancy-pants SUV, and get themselves in some sort of trouble and need backup from the cops out here, my guess is their radio signals are going to be too weak to be heard by any police radio in this county...

1 posted on 10/19/2003 12:41:48 AM PDT by fire_eye
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Thoroughly disgusted *Ping*...
2 posted on 10/19/2003 12:43:14 AM PDT by fire_eye
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To: fire_eye
Were either one of these LEO's involved in allowing the water to flow in Klamath falls? If I remember there was an officer who was extremely helpful to the townspeople's predictament and stood against the feds to keep the water flowing.

If so, is this payback?
7 posted on 10/19/2003 1:27:30 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: fire_eye
The reason they are doing it is to instill the fear of the Feds into everybody. Don't mess with us. Something like this would make a good 2nd case to take up the courts.

Sounds like what happen is they brought police only restricted rifles the sold then to fellow officers.

The whole 1934, 1968 and more recent gun control laws should be declared unconsitutional.

10 posted on 10/19/2003 3:18:17 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: fire_eye
I'm sure some of you think that it's a good thing for the gun laws to get inflicted on the cops, and maybe you're right... but for the most part these small-town cops are just regular folks and are getting chewed up and spit out like the rest of us gun owners by Uncle Bug-Breath and the socialist gun-grabbers.

Yup, it's a tough decision. But maybe if more of the really good guy locals get enough heat from the FedGovThugs, they will become a more vocal advocate for the civilians who finds themselves in the same spot. It's getting time to chose up sides, it would be nice to see the local police on the side of freedom, and if this it what it takes to convince them...

26 posted on 10/19/2003 6:38:58 AM PDT by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: fire_eye
Sorry, no sympathy for the cops here. They would have been more than happy to bust somebody for the same thing and send them up for years and years.

"my guess is their radio signals are going to be too weak to be heard by any police radio in this county..."

You say that like it's a bad thing. During Prohibition 'revenuers' used to go missing in the woods all the time. It wasn't a bad thing then, and it wouldn't be a bad thing for a few of these BATF goons to go missing now.

L L

29 posted on 10/19/2003 8:58:13 AM PDT by Lurker (Some people say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I say there's no better time to do it.)
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To: fire_eye
Yeah, they're supposed to obey the law like the rest of us.

What we have here is tyrannical laws, tyrannically enforced. The charges amount to failure to do proper paperwork. I don't know about others here, but it seems to me that people should not be put in jail and have their lives destroyed for failure to do paperwork. If that is the case I think just about everyone in America could be put in jail.

31 posted on 10/19/2003 9:04:20 AM PDT by gore3000 ("To say dogs, mice, and humans are all products of slime plus time is a mystery religion.")
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To: fire_eye
Just like busting kids with tiny guns on charm bracelets or asthma inhalers, the government has discovered that it's easier to prosecute honest citizens who do things out in the open than it is to find real criminals. It gives them the stats they need to justify budgets and tell the public they're being productive.
32 posted on 10/19/2003 9:15:02 AM PDT by Spok
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To: fire_eye; All
I have but ONE question for all those that would prescribe ownership of any and all manner of destructive fire power - including pistols, rifles, hand grenades, rocket launchers up to and including theater thermonuclear devices -

- The question is this:

"Have you ever, in your life met SOMEONE you thought should not own such weapons either because they were:

a) not mature enough. IOW, they couldn't be trusted to exercise proper 'fire control. Age related to some degree, sure, but also related to 'development' in life - have they developed proper discipline to be trusted with devices that can take human life.

b) incapable of handling said weapon (weren't simply big enough, too small a frame for the large bore rifles, etc)

c) mentally incapacitated beyond the point where they could be trusted to control their 'fire' (mentally incompetent - can't judge proper from improper use of weaponry that can potentially kill)

d) deemed to be a risk because of their 'criminal bent'"


39 posted on 10/19/2003 11:30:29 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: fire_eye
We're banking on the truth here."

This is the BATFE here. They don't have much use for the truth, nor much aquaintence with it either. I'm not sure they'd know what it was if it bit them in the a$$.

52 posted on 10/19/2003 8:57:47 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: fire_eye
The criminal indictment was handed up by a federal grand jury Feb. 14, following a three-year investigation. It also charges Noble, the department's second-in-comand, with possession of a sawed-off rifle.

"It's a lot to have over your head," said Whalon, who has been a police officer for 12 years. "When you've gone all your life being the good guy, and all of a sudden you're the suspect, that can be draining,"

Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot doesn't it officer ?

71 posted on 10/20/2003 8:41:54 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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