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To: riverrunner
I'd be interested in knowing more about the "semi-automatic" machine guns.

My understanding has always been that if a rifle fires one round with one pull of the trigger, it is classified as "semi-auto" by the BATF. I've never heard of a "machine gun classification" that over-rides the true function of the weapon as it pertains to legality of posession.

While I generally don't care for cops, I certainly care even less for the JBTs. There's something more to this situation than is being reported.
12 posted on 10/19/2003 3:49:03 AM PDT by misanthrope
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To: misanthrope
"I'd be interested in knowing more about the "semi-automatic" machine guns."

The full article has more details. Although the guns themselves are semi-automatic, they are built on a "frame" that can be easily modified for full auto, and so are classified by the BATF as "machine guns", despite the fact that they are most definitively NOT.

All this is basically a paperwork infraction of the "tempest in teapot" type.

13 posted on 10/19/2003 4:06:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: misanthrope
Sounds like the British L1A1 *SLR* version of the Belgian FAL, replaced by the L86 *Ibdividual Weapon* or SA-80. The Brit SLRs are semi-only based on the parts installed, but the feds consider them a MG because they have the machined milled cuts needed to install the full-auto components.

Might be L4A3 Sterling SMGs, though.

14 posted on 10/19/2003 4:13:56 AM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: misanthrope
My understanding has always been that if a rifle fires one round with one pull of the trigger, it is classified as "semi-auto" by the BATF.

Nope, not exactly. If the receiver was originally designed for use with select fire it remains a machine gun in eyes of the BATF, even if you remove the auto sear and other parts required for automatic fire. When the prohibition of manufacture of new machine guns for civilian use was enacted in 1986, it basically refered to receivers. The auto sear and other parts are basically useless without it.

38 posted on 10/19/2003 11:14:07 AM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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To: misanthrope
Is is easy sounds like they are simi auto's built on machine gun recivers. By BATF standards they are still full auto's. Lets say you take a m16 put ar15 parts in it to make it simi BATF still says it is a full auto. Under their thinking once a machine gun always a machine gun.

Is it right no but no one in congress wants to set them right nor pull any funding when they stomp cats to death and kill people over unpaided tax's.

50 posted on 10/19/2003 7:16:22 PM PDT by riverrunner
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