Skip to comments.Statement by Jim Robinson Regarding the State of our Free Republic
Posted on 10/20/2003 4:53:35 PM PDT by Jim RobinsonEdited on 10/20/2003 8:39:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I happen to believe that Bill and Hillary Clinton were the worst presidents in our nation's history. Corruption, government abuse, treason and daily scandal were the norm under their rule. Bill is a useful idiot who can't keep his mouth shut or his zipper up and Hillary is an America hating godless communist power monger. These are my personal opinions.
Bill and Hillary Clinton and their minions still wield a tremendous amount of power and influence over the Democrat Party, the socialist movement and the national press. Their goals are to completely eliminate our rights to free speech, free religion, freedom to keep and bear arms, etc., and these are just for starters.
I believe the overall goal of their movement is to completely do away with the U.S. Constitution and in its place, install socialist/totalitarian rule over America. Furthermore, I believe they wish to do away with our national sovereignty altogether and subject America to domination by the U.N. and other world bodies.
Now you may call me a nutcase if you wish, but that's the way I see it. I believe that in the last century, FDR, LBJ, RMN, Carter, Clinton, et al, successfully introduced many socialist programs into our government and our way of life and with the help of the media and atheist institutions like the ACLU began systematically destroying the fabric of our society. In the process, they've moved both of our major political parties way over to the left. They (the liberals/marxists/socialists) have almost completely taken over all of our government institutions and agencies, the judiciary, the press, the Universities, our education systems, our charities, even our churches.
I believe that as long as Bill and Hillary Clinton and their like minded socialist minions have any influence or power over the government or either of the two major political parties, our nation and all of our freedoms are in extreme danger.
Free Republic was created in 1996 as a place where liberty-minded individuals could gather and share the news and discuss the Clinton scandals and other government abuses. I had hoped that the truth of the Clinton corruption would come out in time to prevent his re-election in 1996. Didn't happen. So we moved on. If we couldn't block his re-election, well, perhaps we could help with his impeachment. He was impeached, but we could not remove him.
So next, we decide to do all in our power to ensure that his second in command does not get to the Whitehouse. Even though GWB was not my first choice, once he won the Republican nomination, most of us rallied behind him and fought like the dickens to get him elected. Then we fought again to block the attempted Gore coup d'etat. Our Free Republic chapters mobilized all across the nation and there were thousands of rallies and protests in hundreds of cities objecting loudly to Gore's attempted takeover.
Then we all thanked God when Bush was finally declared the winner and off to Washington we went to celebrate at the Free Republic George W. Bush Inaugural Ball (I).
Then we all thank God again when after the cowardly attack on our nation by a gang of murderous international terrorists we realize how close we were to complete collapse and national destruction had the socialist U.N. loving Al Gore been in charge. Thank God for President Bush!
And I haven't even mentioned how evil I truly believe the official Democrat Party platform is. Here's a partial laundry list of what the Democrat Party supports and promotes: abortion; homosexuality; feminaziism; environmentalism; government control over every aspect of our lives and society; socialized health care; disarmament of the American people; subjugation of the U.S. to the U.N.; the complete elimination of our national sovereignty; complete destruction of our basic traditional family unit; loss of personal freedoms and individual liberty. In other words, complete destruction of our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our American way of life.
I came to the conclusion several years ago that there is no way this republic can survive if we allow the Democrat Party to maintain control over our government and other institutions. If America is to survive as we know it, Bill and Hillary Clinton and all the current democrat/socialist power mongers who share their philosophy and visions for a socialist America and socialist world must be soundly rejected and defeated at the polls.
And not just at the presidential level. They must be rejected and removed from both houses of Congress and from our State houses and local legislatures. For example, if we cannot remove them from the Senate, then there is no hope for reestablishing a judiciary built on the original intent of the Constitution and the rule-of-law. The liberals and socialists must be rooted out of our congress and our judiciary. Our free republic, our freedom and even liberty itself depends on it.
Just my humble opinion and why I act the way I do. I see the Democrat Party as domestic enemy number one of the Constitution and therefor it is my sworn enemy. And, in my eyes, anyone who helps to elect members of the Democrat party are aiding and abetting the enemy.
Futhermore, I believe wholeheartedly in the original intent of our Founding Fathers and in the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
God gave us these unalienable rights and they can never be taken from us by man or government. And we are ALL to be treated justly and equally under the law.
"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
Yes, the Founders established a government and set forth the plan for us to govern ourselves.
"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
The government has become destructive to these ends. One of the main purposes of our government is to defend, preserve and protect our liberty. It has been doing just the opposite. Therefore, it is our right and duty to alter or abolish it. I propose doing so by destroying enemy number one of the Constitution, the corrupt socialist Democrat Party.
While we're at it let's repeal the 14th and 16th amendment.
That is exactly why I want the 14th amendment repealed. The 14th gave the judiciary more power than anything to date. EVERY liberal decision since the Warren Court has been decided on the 14th. The 10th amendment was gutted by the 14th.
I would vote for that amendment also. However, that would not by itself make all elections local. In my district, our state representative was elected by campaign contributions from outside our district and outside our state (mormon money from Utah). That is not "local". It is also done to a much greater extent in the elections of Congressional Representatives and Senators.
None of us in Texas do. We just own a pot full of guns.
Those days were like the wild wild west!:)
"Three musicians and a drummer walk into a bar..."
Go for it.
Have a great time.
But keep your fingers out of my wallet.
Thanks in advance.
Sorry, ol' bean but taxes are just another part of growing up.
You should try it someday. Might help make you look less silly.
Technically speaking I guess you are correct, but of course the 75th included 76 Democrats.
It isn't the numbers, son. It's the percentage. Get that tooth fixed.
Oh, I never said I hadn't been ganged up on by an intolerant mob before.
Well, if you get a few people together, and yell real loud and scream and break things and start them on fire etc... you can get your way - witness the Rodney King-related riots in L.A...
We are moving closer and closer to becoming a "democracy" as more and more self-interest groups become more concerned with their own interests, no matter if it's bad for the rest of the country - we han't necessarily lost the republic yet, but we're on our way...
You forgot "progressives".
Give it a rest.
Anyone who keeps trying to pigeonhole me with a label can pretty much count on being ignored.
If I thought tribal membership was an essential part of my political life I would move to Rwanda.
tpaine, there is no way to "mandate virtue" through prohibitionary laws. As I said, virtue cannot be compelled. Prohibitionary laws aren't really about mandating virtue any way, they are attempts at constraining behavior that usually prove to be counterproductive in practice. I don't think they foster contempt for the social order, though they may foster contempt for the law.
Plato's word for law was nomos, or customary law. Nomos is settled law that has been "time-tested" over the generations in a given society, to which the people give their ready assent because there is broad social consensus that the law secures the ends for which it is intended.
Nomos is thus rather the polar opposite of positive law, the itch to pass legislation to "correct" perceived problems on an ad hoc basis. (You got a problem? Well, we'll just pass a new law that will "fix it.")
A wise legislator understands that law making should be done sparingly, for it tends to disrupt the settled ways of the people, and "too many laws" or law that constantly changes tends to increase uncertainty and unpredictability in social life, and thereby may result in the people developing sentiments of contempt for the law and the lawmaker alike.
IMHO, legislation should be used very, very sparingly. It seems to me laws ought not to be regarded as instant fixes for each and every perceived social problem that comes down the pike. Rather, the law should provide for the basic security of individuals and, for the rest of it, just leave the people alone to handle their own affairs as they see fit. Virtue actually has a better chance of developing under nomos than it does under positive law, for more decisions are left to the people, and there is strong incentive to choose and act rightly when people aren't protected from the consequences of their own free choices. FWIW.
In a nutshell, I have a strong distaste for prohibitionary-type law. I don't think such law helps much, and paradoxically in most cases it tends to increase the very thing it seeks to constrain. Again, FWIW.
JimRob is absolutely right: The Left does want to destroy the Constitution. It is a crystalization of a theory of man and of values that the Left despises. Unfortunately, I think that Plato was right: even the "best constitution" cannot suffice to maintain a decent, just social order for a people who hold virtue in contempt. 1024 -BB-
In effect, the belief that we ~must~ control mans "virtue" is one if the prime reasons that even the "best constitution" cannot suffice to maintain a decent, just social order.
History shows that mandating virtue through prohibitionary laws foster contempt for social order. 1,097 -tpaine-
tpaine, there is no way to "mandate virtue" through prohibitionary laws.
At 1024 you commented that you believe that people who hold virtue in contempt cannot maintain a decent, just social order..
-- I then observed at 1097 that this type of belief fosters attempts to mandate virtue through prohibitionary laws which lead to contempt for social order, as we can see from booze & drug prohibtions.
As I said, virtue cannot be compelled. Prohibitionary laws aren't really about mandating virtue any way, they are attempts at constraining behavior that usually prove to be counterproductive in practice. I don't think they foster contempt for the social order, though they may foster contempt for the law.
Good.. In effect, you repudiate your belief of 1024 that "Plato was right". Thanks.
I just think the 2 party system should be Republicans and Libertarians.
Not so fast, tpaine. Plato was right. If you doubt it, just look around: Do you like what you see all around you?
Arguably we live in a society that does not respect virtue. Heck, we live in a society in which a whole lot of people do not even seem to know what virtue is.
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