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Brain-Damaged Fla. Woman Recieving [sic] Fluids
Associated Press ^ | 10-21-03

Posted on 10/21/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by Brian S

Brain-Damaged Fla. Woman in Right-To-Die Dispute Receiving Fluids Again, Acting on Gov. Bush's Order

The Associated Press

CLEARWATER, Fla. Oct. 21 — Acting on orders from Gov. Jeb Bush, a hospital began rehydrating a brain-damaged woman Tuesday six days after her feeding tube was removed in one of the nation's longest and most bitter right-to-die battles.

Terri Schiavo was receiving the fluids after the Legislature rushed to pass a bill designed to save her life, according to her parents' lawyer. Schiavo's parents have fought to keep her alive. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, says she would rather die.

An ambulance earlier took Schiavo from a Pinellas Park hospice to Morton Plant Hospital after Bush issue an order to resume feeding her. A crowd cheered outside as she left.


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1 posted on 10/21/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
Thank God!!!!
2 posted on 10/21/2003 6:40:19 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: Brian S
FNC: Second Judge denies request to stop feeding tubes, rehydration continues!!!

3 posted on 10/21/2003 6:43:10 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S; ambrose; TheAngryClam; Chancellor Palpatine; RGSpincich
This is a horrid headline. The insensitivity of the AP is beyond the pale.
4 posted on 10/21/2003 6:43:21 PM PDT by onyx
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To: Arpege92
Thank God is right!! This is part of the slippery slope after abortion was legalized. What a way to die and we treat pets better then this !!
5 posted on 10/21/2003 6:43:28 PM PDT by Mfkmmof4
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To: Brian S
Thanks be to God for answered prayers.
I hope she didn't suffer any kidney damage, or damage to her other organs while she was off fluids for this past week.

6 posted on 10/21/2003 6:45:21 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Fight the Culture of Death!)
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To: Brian S
Re: Any Suggestions???? PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS ON EVERY THREAD
From floriduh voter | 10/21/2003 9:36 PM EDT new


BREAKING... IV HAS BEEN STARTED... TERRI WILL BE TURNED OVER TO A REAL GUARDIAN. Felos INJUNCTION WAS JUST DENIED BY JUDGE BAIRD. Please copy and paste this on every Terri thread you can find. Thanks, FV from the Front Lines, the freep of our lives. Thank you Free Republic, the Nation and the World!!!!!!!!

7 posted on 10/21/2003 6:46:18 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: sockmonkey
6 days no food, no water is bad for people in decent health. Hell, David Blane was a wreck, and he was drinking water, and weighed 205 pounds before he did his stunt. After 44 days of no food, he dropped 50 pounds.
8 posted on 10/21/2003 6:46:47 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: onyx
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that.
9 posted on 10/21/2003 6:50:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: Brian S
Thank the Lord!

This is just amazing! You could not treat a dog like this! Literally! If you starved just about any animal like they did this woman they would haul you off to jail!

It's insane! Evil, black hearted and devilish people are involved in this.

Something is deeper here. I mean really! How often do you hear of a young woman like that just falling over suddenly? Having a heart attack? Something smells here!

Don't let them kill me!

10 posted on 10/21/2003 6:50:44 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: Brian S
I think everyone involved expected Terri to die within a few days.

When she didn't, those who could stop the horrific killing realized they'd better act fast to reverse events.

To watch the video of her smiling at her mother is beyond heartbreak. Those who condoned Terri's death by dehydration and starvation are satanic; they will reap what they sow.

11 posted on 10/21/2003 6:53:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Brian S
Praise God.
12 posted on 10/21/2003 6:54:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (Support Free Republic. Pray for our Troops. God bless America.)
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To: Brian S
Thanks God!!!! Praise Be Unto The Lord!!!!:-)
13 posted on 10/21/2003 6:54:14 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: glock rocks
Please take a moment for two quick, east things:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005504/posts

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This is VERY important!
14 posted on 10/21/2003 6:54:34 PM PDT by jmstein7
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To: Mfkmmof4
Yes. First it's abortion. Then it's "right to die". And then it's abortion up to birth + 12 months given infirmity. And then from "your choice" to "the State's choice". Then euthenasia of the elderly, the infirm, the unproductive, the politically unsuitable, for population control, etc.
15 posted on 10/21/2003 6:55:31 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: Brian S
Check out the latest version of your article (n.b. the last paragraph -- Michael Schiavo is "deeply saddened" !):

Brain-Damaged Fla. Woman Receiving Fluids

By JACKIE HALLIFAX
ASSOCIATED PRESS

CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP) -

Acting on orders from Gov. Jeb Bush, a hospital began giving fluids to a brain-damaged woman Tuesday, six days after her feeding tube was removed in one of the nation's longest and most bitter right-to-die battles.

A judge later rejected a request by the woman's husband to overturn the governor's order.

Terri Schiavo was receiving fluids after the Legislature rushed to pass a bill designed to save her life, according to her parents' lawyer. Schiavo's parents have fought to keep her alive. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, says she would rather die.

An ambulance took Schiavo from a Pinellas Park hospice to Morton Plant Hospital after Bush issued his order to resume feeding her. A crowd cheered outside as she left.

"I'm ecstatic she's being fed again," said her brother, Bob Schindler Jr. "I don't think I can describe the way I feel right now. It's been unreal."

Hours earlier, the Senate voted 23-15 for legislation to save Schiavo. Within minutes, the House voted 73-24 to send the bill to Bush. The governor signed it into law and issued his order about an hour later.

"It's restored my belief in God," said Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler.

Her husband, meanwhile, was "deeply troubled, angry and saddened that his wife's wishes have become a political pingpong," said his attorney, George Felos. "He, as many others, is absolutely stunned at the course of events."


16 posted on 10/21/2003 6:59:28 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Brian S
cpforlife.org just gave me a new message that terris hubby and his lawyer are refusing to have her rehydrated,saying this new law is unconstitutional...she's still starving and without water....
17 posted on 10/21/2003 7:01:08 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: onyx
Yep. It's to the point but pretty crass.
18 posted on 10/21/2003 7:02:58 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good tag lines are taken......)
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To: fishbabe
go to the thread,jeb bushs detractors...its post #172...SHE IS STILL BEING STARVED!!!!!!!!!!
19 posted on 10/21/2003 7:04:43 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
No joke. Anybody who is for starving this woman would break Tiny Tim's crutch. How awful!
20 posted on 10/21/2003 7:05:07 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good tag lines are taken......)
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To: isthisnickcool
You don't hear of young women like her just dropping (almost) dead like that.

However, there's more to it. She is believed to have had a heart attack induced by malnutrition as a by-product of bulimia, which both her husband and her parents acknowledge she suffered from.
21 posted on 10/21/2003 7:06:57 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: fishbabe
I rather doubt that. It seems to be established fact that she was moved to a hospital, and that the hospital has been ordered to treat her. No hospital cares enough about Mr. Schiavo and his lawyer to refuse a legally authorized order from the Governor (backed up by two judges, who have refused to block it), when the refusal will kill the patient in short order. Mr. Schiavo and Mr. Felos don't have anywhere near enough money to make that worth the hospital's while.
22 posted on 10/21/2003 7:07:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Pslams 94:1": O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.
23 posted on 10/21/2003 7:07:59 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
To watch the video of her smiling at her mother is beyond heartbreak. Those who condoned Terri's death by dehydration and starvation are satanic; they will reap what they sow.

Very well said.

Watch the video. If your social agenda causes you to root for this girl's death, there's something horribly wrong with you and your agenda.

24 posted on 10/21/2003 7:08:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (10/21/03: a great day for Life)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Next thing you know, a bunch of degenerate liberals who damn well know that you committed double murder will root for your acquittal because you're putting one over on the man. Oops, O.J. already pioneered that episode.
25 posted on 10/21/2003 7:08:40 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good tag lines are taken......)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
i hope so.....that creep of a hubby and his ghoulish lawyer know that time is running out for her.....
26 posted on 10/21/2003 7:09:09 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: TheAngryClam
Thanks! I had not read that.
27 posted on 10/21/2003 7:09:24 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: shhrubbery!
"Her husband, meanwhile, was "deeply troubled, angry and saddened that his wife's wishes have become a political pingpong," said his attorney, George Felos. "He, as many others, is absolutely stunned at the course of events."

I'll bet.

Jeb Bush, he saw that the people were giving him no choice, as did the Florida Legislature.

God Bless the American people, especially those who really worked so hard for this.

This turn of events gives me a lot of hope for our country.

Tonight, we demonstrate that we are a far better place to be sick & helpless than, oh, say, just for example...EUROPE.

28 posted on 10/21/2003 7:09:26 PM PDT by jocon307 (New tagline coming soon......)
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To: Brian S
WHA HOOO!!!!!!

GOD does hear and answer prayers!
29 posted on 10/21/2003 7:09:41 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: shhrubbery!
Thanks for the update.

Time for all to fall upon their knees and say a pray of Thanks and Hope for Terri!


30 posted on 10/21/2003 7:10:05 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: isthisnickcool
Yeah. It's the counterpart part of the "there's more to this story" than the "her husband beat her within an inch of her life and is now trying to finish the job" conspiracy theory.
31 posted on 10/21/2003 7:10:53 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: isthisnickcool
Young people drop dead from heart problems quite often.
32 posted on 10/21/2003 7:11:17 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: Brian S
Some thoughts and facts:

Although counterintuitive, what was being done to Terri was not inhumane. Conscious patients with terminal diseases (usually advanced cancer) sometimes elect to stop receiving food and drink. They uniformly report that they are not suffering during the week or so that they remain conscious, and withholding nourishment and water is an accepted practice in the hospice community. This obviously assumes that the patient wants to die, which I understand is the major point of contention.

There is every reason to believe that Terri has no awareness of her surroundings. Who benefits from preserving her mitochondria? Who is paying for her care? Are disability checks going to anybody? Yes, it's crass to think of these things, but when there are opposite sides arguing vociferously, following the money can shed light on the situation.

Insertion of a feeding tube and using it to provide nutrition in any medical setting requires a physician's prescription. How does the state compel a doctor to write a prescription? Traditionally, state action has allowed or disallowed medical procedures, but I have never heard of a law that can compel a medical procedure.

This whole situation stinks. There are things worse than death, and Terri is there.
33 posted on 10/21/2003 7:11:17 PM PDT by tarheal
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To: Brian S
Finally...after so many starts and stops, this poor woman is allowed to live. I wish her some measure of comfort and peace.
34 posted on 10/21/2003 7:13:34 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Brian S
Thank Him, and thank everyone who cared and pushed and called and emailed and prayed.

35 posted on 10/21/2003 7:13:37 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui docet discit!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Speaking of abortion - I want to get this off my chest.

Barbara Boxer and her ilk in the Senate today: everybody speaking IN FAVOR of the grotesque, torturous infanticide of the Partial Birth abortion... the Left keeps speaking of this as being the opening salvo of a slippery slope into the roll back of Roe v. Wade.

Please tolerate this vanity to allow me to rant a bit.

(1) "Roe" was railroaded. Norma McCorvey herself has repudiated the very court case that brought this about.
(2) The "Slippery Slope" has been in force and dragging us all into the abyss since 1973. The first step on this slope WAS abortion "rights."
(3) The Roe v. Wade decision did NOT permit abortion at any time on demand.
(4) Once the word "health" was being used with 'saving the life and health of the mother', this code phrase began being implemented as abortion at any time on demand, for "mental health" was assumed part of the equation. This was not permissible from Roe v. Wade, but has been upheld by numerous liberal courts since. Note: there is no test for "health" of the mother -- it is merely assumed to be improved by ridding her of the baby.

So now: one procedure, one TYPE of abortion, taking place AFTER the baby is fully viable is being banned... and the Left is apoplectic! This isn't the slippery slope -- we're already mired in the pit at the bottom of that hill from which we were perched in January of 1973. This merely erases one option for infanticide: many still remain.

Slippery Slope? Would Dr. Kevorkian have been tolerated AT ALL in 1970? How about Terri Schiavo's case? Think where we were then and where society is today. We are much more humane to convicted murderers than we are to babies trying to break free from the womb.

We now return you to your previously scheduled thread, already in progress. < /end rant >

36 posted on 10/21/2003 7:14:54 PM PDT by alancarp
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To: Brian S; JohnHuang2
BREAKING... IV HAS BEEN STARTED... TERRI WILL BE TURNED OVER TO A REAL GUARDIAN. Felos INJUNCTION WAS JUST DENIED BY JUDGE BAIRD. Please copy and paste this on every Terri thread you can find. Thanks, FV from the Front Lines, the freep of our lives. Thank you Free Republic, the Nation and the World!!!!!!!!

Halleluja!! Praise God and thanks to all who have spread the word of truth to influence our political leadership!

37 posted on 10/21/2003 7:14:57 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: fishbabe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005495/posts?q=1&&page=192
38 posted on 10/21/2003 7:16:08 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Brian S
*** Time for all to fall upon their knees and say a prayer of Thanks and Hope for Terri! ***

Good Idea. (I just did.)
39 posted on 10/21/2003 7:16:44 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Fight the Culture of Death!)
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To: dogbyte12
Michael Schiavo will be a very wealthy man by the time the lawsuits are finished flying. No matter how everyone FEELS about this case, this action by the legislature and Jeb is no less then legislative usurption of the judicial branch.

Personally...I wouldn't want to live without a cerebral cortex. I wouldn't even be able to thank the nurse aide who changed my diaper 3 or 4 times a day.

And if Terri really didn't want to live in this condition then a terrible injustice has been done.

The FSC will hear this case you can be sure...Anyone care to bet on how they'll rule?


40 posted on 10/21/2003 7:17:05 PM PDT by KDD (I didn't say it was your fault...I said..I was going to blame you.)
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To: tarheal
Although counterintuitive, what was being done to Terri was not inhumane. Conscious patients with terminal diseases (usually advanced cancer) sometimes elect to stop receiving food and drink. They uniformly report that they are not suffering during the week or so that they remain conscious, and withholding nourishment and water is an accepted practice in the hospice community.

I beg to differ. Depriving her of life was inhumane, in and of itself.

And as for your example of conscious patients with terminal illnesses: Yes, some are nauseated either by their illness or by the morphine that may be administered to them. They do not want to eat, and the morphine they receive usually will help keep starvation from being painful.

This is very different from what happens to a non-terminal, non-medicated patient who is simply brain-damaged, not ill.

41 posted on 10/21/2003 7:17:10 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!
Ha!

Her "husband" is scared pissless that under true guardianship she is going to recover and tell what really happened that day she became disabled.

Or that a different team of doctors are going to take a look at her injuries and find something he has managed, until now, to keep quiet.

The sun is breaking through. Terri is saved.
42 posted on 10/21/2003 7:17:51 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui docet discit!)
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To: onyx
At least they used the term brain-damaged instead of comatose or vegetative.
43 posted on 10/21/2003 7:18:01 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Those who condoned Terri's death by dehydration and starvation are satanic; they will reap what they sow.

Let them reap their WHIRLWIND!

44 posted on 10/21/2003 7:18:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: KDD
The FSC will hear this case you can be sure...Anyone care to bet on how they'll rule?

Now that there is a conflict between the legislative and judicial branches, you are probably right that the obnoxious SCOFLA will try to throw its weight around, just as it did in Bush v. Gore.

In that case, we may see SCOTUS slap the arrogant puppies down again.

Bets? Sure. SCOTUS 1, SCOFLA 0.

46 posted on 10/21/2003 7:21:41 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: tarheal
Whether she's aware of her surroundings or not is difficult to establish -- videos taken a couple of years ago suggest that she was then, but that could have changed in the interim. Her parents and siblings are willing to care for her at home, and since she requires only feeding, this isn't much expense. She has a medical trust fund of over $1 million from a malpractice suit. Her husband is eager to get his hands on that money, which will go to him when she dies.

I'm in favor of euthanasia when proper safeguards are in place, but this case is loaded with conflicts of interest and suspicious details -- like how the husband suddenly remembered that Terri had said she didn't want to be kept alive artificially, just AFTER the $1 million+ malpractice award was won; and how he was insisting that she be cremated immediately after her death, though many questins remain about broken bones she may have sustained at his hands.
47 posted on 10/21/2003 7:22:58 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: KDD
You are funny. This is legislation that saved a life. It reined in a corrupt judiciary that was allowing a guardian to starve to death his wife. The seperation of powers is not a means by which the judiciary is supreme. The three branches are coequal, and as a check and balance, two branches (legislative and executive) can over-rule the third. Civics 101.
48 posted on 10/21/2003 7:23:23 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: Brian S
This was a right to kill case. When is the AP going to get something right?
49 posted on 10/21/2003 7:23:46 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: onyx
It is the first time they have used the honest term "brain damaged", instead of comatose or vegetative (inaccurate terms in this case). Sounds to me like they are listening to all their emails - or maybe reading FR.
50 posted on 10/21/2003 7:24:18 PM PDT by I still care
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