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Rumsfeld's war-on-terror memo ^ | 10-16-03 | Rumsfeld

Posted on 10/22/2003 4:17:49 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The questions I posed to combatant commanders this week were: Are we winning or losing the Global War on Terror? Is DoD changing fast enough to deal with the new 21st century security environment? Can a big institution change fast enough? Is the USG changing fast enough?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; patriotlist; rummy; rumsfeld; rumsfeldmemo; rumsfeldpinglist; turass; warlist
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To: nathanbedford
You must have gotten one of those "compare and contrast" questions on your last exam back in school. Nice work! I'll have to circulate it.
41 posted on 10/22/2003 8:02:17 AM PDT by OESY
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To: nathanbedford
The only questions the Clinton administration would be asking would be "what can we do that will reap us the greatest election day victories?" and "which side is more likely to give us money?"
42 posted on 10/22/2003 8:10:01 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: seamole
Im busy with work a lot and don't have the time to dedicate to a blog, nor am I really interested.

I will however toss out a few ideas here.

America needs to make use of American expatriates who have been overseas for many years and have already blended in with local cultures.

The other night another American and myself were joking about how ridiculous it is to see some bumbling CIA or FBI guy over here trying to do whatever job he does and who has absolutely no clue as to what is going on - Yet he thinks he does. He does not speak the language and if he does speak a few words it sounds funny - they almost never understand local sayings or idioms and basically they stick out like a sore thumb.

It is kinda funny when you can get a call and have someone say - "Hey one of your countrymen is coming out to see me tomorrow at 9am." and then here all the details of the meeting later.

And so you get a few guys travelling from Washington asking about nukes that moved into the area from Vladivostok. They dont seem to understand that the locals wont trust them at all because despite what anyone says they dont believe that there are no nukes in Sembawang.

Our own CIA cannot infiltrate the extremist groups - it takes a hippy from Marin county who learns the local language and customs and then is able to walk right up to Osama Bin Laden. Is no one else ashamed of this?

The American government spends a lot of times recruiting the locals to feed them information but so many times these locals actually report to another master and it seems the Americans are too stupid to actually realize this.

Another problem is that there are no salesmen for America. The only thing the locals hear about America is what is bad about America.

The only Americans who fly into town never have anything good to say about their own country. Madeline Albright, socialists and the occasional Hollywood freak.

Oh but it gets ever worse, imagine how bad it is when some of the American embassy staff like to rant to the locals about how much they hate George Bush and how America now is such a horrible country.

How stupid is it to have US State Department employees stationed in a Muslim country who they themselves buy into every evil conspirasy story about America. Of course the locals lap it all up and believe it as well, after all, if a US State department employee says it, then it must be true.

This is just a small sampling, a very small sampling of problems that I see on a daily basis.

Tomorrow I will talk about the madrassahs.

43 posted on 10/22/2003 8:24:33 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Are you kidding? NO way Rumsfeld leaked this memo in my opinion. You don't think Bush is going to be pissed big time with this?
44 posted on 10/22/2003 8:42:01 AM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: hchutch; Miss Marple

To: Attorney General

Subj: War on Terror

1. Something to be said for the LeMay/Harris idea. Any way we can get past the multiple violations of international law?

2. Any way we can find higher-priority law enforcement targets than AUC?

3. Maybe we can sic all those unemployed tobacco lawyers on the madrassas.

4. If Saudi Arabia gets nukes, wouldn't be a shame if they didn't follow OSHA guidelines for safety & surety? Accidents have been known to happen...

5. Didn't the Pakistani nuclear weapons facility (ahem, "compound") forget to pay the transfer tax on those machineguns? Gosh, maybe Treasury needs to be notified, it's been YEARS since we've had a high-profile BATF raid.

6. Up for another round at the Fort Myers golf course? I've got this new driver sitting in a corner of my office that keeps saying, "Hey, Don, you gotta get those silly pants on and see how much distance you can get!"


"The Donald"
45 posted on 10/22/2003 8:54:38 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: hchutch
Perhaps it's time to stop being so darn nice.

No more mister nice guy

No more...mister!!!!

46 posted on 10/22/2003 9:00:55 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Poohbah; Miss Marple; PJ-Comix

To: Secretary Rumsfeld
From: Attorney General Ashcroft

Subject: Ideas

1. If there is non-compliance with the Geneva Convention, we may have an out. I may check with that.

2. Yeah, I think we can move the AUC down on the list.

3. Sending trial lawyers against the madrassas? That is going too far. That goes BEYOND "grave breach" status. We can't do that unless they do it first.

4. Not to mention the pollution that results from violating EPA standards. And the NRC gets involved, too. You know, there are so many alphabet soup agencies who would want a piece of such an accident, I can understand why folks outsource.

5. You know the tip line. Best to have a flunky do it, though.

6. I kinda like Army-Navy Country Club better this time of year. Got a staffer who just got a Callaway ERC II. Maybe I can take it out for a test round...

7. Oh, the legal attache in Moscow called. Seems we got another tourist looking over Russian warbirds. Looks like your folks at Groom Lake (They are your folks, aren't they?) may get something new to play with...


John Ashcroft
47 posted on 10/22/2003 9:08:09 AM PDT by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: hchutch

To: Attorney General Ashcroft
From: Secretary Rumsfeld
Subject: Ideas

What folks out at Groom Lake? We don't have any folks out at Groom Lake. Nope. Uh-huh.


"The Donald"
48 posted on 10/22/2003 9:10:48 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah

To: Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld
From: Attorney General John Ashcroft

Subject: Ideas

1. Whoops. Did I say Groom Lake? I meant to say, Nellis.
49 posted on 10/22/2003 9:39:13 AM PDT by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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Maybe they leak this stuff to get responses from the Free Republic! Then take our ideas and suggestions and use them as their own. :) Oh wait, my tinfoil is getting a little too tight. Ow! Back to watching my live Groom Lake Feeds. :-P
50 posted on 10/22/2003 11:47:39 AM PDT by PureSolace
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To: seamole
Rudyard Kipling had it exactly right. Odds are with the cheaper man. As long as the brainwashed, cheap al Quaeda masses can take out our soldiers by twos and threes, we are going to eventually lose. In the meanwhile we are doing all we can do, but we must invent a way to fight terror on the cheap. God bless Rummy.

Arithmetic on the Frontier

Rudyard Kipling

A GREAT and glorious thing it is
     To learn, for seven years or so,
The Lord knows what of that and this,
     Ere reckoned fit to face the foe—
The flying bullet down the Pass,
That whistles clear: “All flesh is grass.”

Three hundred pounds per annum spent
     On making brain and body meeter
For all the murderous intent
     Comprised in “villanous saltpetre!”
And after—ask the Yusufzaies
What comes of all our ’ologies.

A scrimmage in a Border Station—
     A canter down some dark defile—
Two thousand pounds of education
     Drops to a ten-rupee jezail
The Crammer’s boast, the Squadron’s pride,
Shot like a rabbit in a ride!

No proposition Euclid wrote,
     No formulae the text-books know,
Will turn the bullet from your coat,
     Or ward the tulwar’s downward blow
Strike hard who cares—shoot straight who can—
The odds are on the cheaper man.

One sword-knot stolen from the camp
     Will pay for all the school expenses
Of any Kurrum Valley scamp
     Who knows no word of moods and tenses,
But, being blessed with perfect sight,
Picks off our messmates left and right.

With home-bred hordes the hillsides teem,
     The troop-ships bring us one by one,
At vast expense of time and steam,
     To slay Afridis where they run.
The “captives of our bow and spear”
Are cheap—alas! as we are dear.

51 posted on 10/22/2003 2:23:58 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: expatguy
You've made extremely sensible points...Ping me to your next rant!

54 posted on 10/23/2003 2:03:15 AM PDT by lainde
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To: seamole; The_Media_never_lie
Ref #51 - EXCELLENT! How prophetic and true.
55 posted on 10/23/2003 6:00:30 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: seamole; lainde
Thanks - Enjoy the rant.. Not sure if I will get to the madrassahs today though. I will however promise to get to it later.

And so today, - about Sembawang, Vladivostok and Dr. Ed's Aura Machine -

Yes I was refering to Sembawang, Singapore - but that is not what the US government agents were asking about. I will get to that in a few minutes... first a bit of background...

You can decide for yourself if the Singapore misslies exist but the general concensus of the countries in the region is that they do. Two mid range missiles equipped with nuclear warheads in Sembawang.

When Singapore was asked directly in Parliment, the response was evasive and crypic. First, it was said that the public did not have a 'need to know' and then later a denial - or is it? Singapore says it doesn't store US nuclear weapons

You can also read that as - Singapore does not deny "having" them - they deny "storing" them for another country.

You will also notice that all details of the agreement signed in 1990 between the United States and Singapore are classified.

Tinfoil hat stuff? Perhaps, but needless to say, this makes the neighbors nervous.

Anyway, around 1994 I happen to meet Doctor Ed. My meeting with him is really strange. The security guard in the condo where I live tells me one night that "my friend" just arrived home a few minutes before me. Of course I have no friend staying there - the security guard is refering to the other "white man" and assumes since we are both caucasian that we must be friends. Typical here sometimes. LOL

And so later we do in fact bump into each other. Doctor Ed a Russian medical doctor sitting all along in his condo with a computer, a fax machine and a 3 cases of vodka. Doctor Ed almost never leaves the condo and is obviously going stir crazy waiting for his boss to arrive from Russia.

I pity the guy and we become friends, Im introduced to the joys of Russian bachelor cooking (potato and cabbage soup) served with a bottle of vodka which Dr. Ed drinks like water.

Anyway, things dont seem right... Doctor Ed never leaves the condo to go out anywhere besides the nearby market. he has no practice, no patients just a bunch of technical books in the condo. I try to invite him out sometimes and he always refuses.

A few weeks later over a second bottle of vodka on a Friday night I learn that Doctor Ed is not actually a medical doctor per se, but he constructs a special machine that uses some sort of x-ray reading to detect the aura of a person and how the cosmonauts used this technology that Russia is now sharing (aka the buzz word "technology transfer"). - that explains all the technical books in the apartment - he says he misses his wife and complains that he is running short on cash while waiting for his boss to arrive. I lend Dr. Ed some money which he promises to pay back when the boss arrives.

His boss and investor is a rich man in the fishing industry who is financing the construction of these machines.

A few weeks later Dr. Ed tells me that the boss is coming in on the Aeroflot flight from Moscow.

The next day Dr. Ed knocks on my door smiling, hands me US300 with a promise that I wont mention he borrowed it. Im invited over for a drink.

The boss is there with two body guards a sexy red head and "the banker" all drinking vodka. I have never seen Dr. Ed so happy - Im introduced as Dr. Ed's neighbor and the boss is very kind and speaks a little English with me. He tells me that he is in the fishing industry and is a suppier to McDonald's in the USA of the fish to make fish fillets. This obviously is meant to explain the briefcase full of US dollars and the body guards.

The next day the boss has a meeting with the boat captain who is arriving from Vladivostok - and some local "investors" -

A few days later I meet up with them again and notice the two boxes in Dr. Ed's condo with a radiation warning sign on it. Dr. Ed tells me that is for the aura machine.

Fast forward >>>>> The year 2002

Two US government agents appear in town inquiring about missing nuclear material from Vladivostok.

Part 2 coming soon

56 posted on 10/23/2003 8:41:14 AM PDT by expatguy
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THIS is the memo that has the left all hot and bothered, apparent proof that Rummy has gone off the reservation? Far from it!! If I were in a management position like Rummy's, I too would be asking these kinds of questions about every 3 months.
57 posted on 10/23/2003 8:43:46 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Remole
Funny how the media reports it Huh?

Or I should say, doesn't Report it.
58 posted on 10/23/2003 8:57:24 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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