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Michelle Malkin: Alec Baldwin, please leave, and take Grover Norquist with you
Union Leader ^ | 10/23/03 | MICHELLE MALKIN

Posted on 10/22/2003 11:43:33 PM PDT by kattracks

ALEC “The Bloviator” Baldwin has a new bosom buddy: Beltway Republican strategist Grover Norquist.

The Bush-bashing actor-turned-activist and the Muslim vote-courting political organizer joined together at a Washington, D.C.-area conference last weekend to perpetuate bald lies about the Patriot Act and to oppose the “repressive” War on Terror (repressing terrorist suspects apparently being a bad thing).

Baldwin and Norquist’s panel, titled “Strange Bedfellows,” was sponsored by the ultraliberal group People For the American Way (PFAW). When PFAW head and panel participant Ralph Neas ranted about the lack of judicial and congressional oversight of the Justice Department’s terror investigations, the audience applauded passionately. According to National Review Online reporter Byron York, Baldwin (the “moderator”) then turned to Norquist for comment.

“Ditto,” Norquist replied. Never mind the flat-out falsity of Neas’ claim. The smarmy Baldwin looked at his panelists and proudly remarked: “Can’t you feel the love?”

Blech. Wasn’t he supposed to have left our country by now? If Alec Baldwin ever does make good on his election-year promise, he should buy an extra Louis Vuitton suitcase and pack up Grover Norquist as a carry-on companion for the one-way trip to Tora Bora. Or Riyadh. Or Paris. Wherever.

Norquist’s kissy-kissy partnership with a washed-up Hollywood Clintonite is the least of his unseemly alliances.

Consider: The conference they attended last weekend was hosted by the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom (NCPPF), which was co-founded in 1997 by Sami Al-Arian — the former University of South Florida professor charged earlier this year as a fund-raiser and organizer for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist group. The money Al-Arian allegedly raised went to terrorist operations overseas that killed at least two Americans. In 2001, Al-Arian’s NCPPF gave Norquist an award for his work to abolish the use of secret intelligence evidence in terrorism cases. Al-Arian was the keynote speaker. Insight investigative reporter Ken Timmerman says Norquist told the magazine he remains “proud” of the award.

Among other major participants and sponsors of the NCPPF conference was the American Muslim Council (AMC). In January, the group accused President Bush of “calling on God to kill innocent Iraqi children.” The next day, the group instructed mosque directors to block FBI counterterrorism efforts. Late last month, AMC founder Abdurahman Alamoudi was charged with illegally accepting money from Libya for his efforts to persuade the United States to lift sanctions against that nation.

Alamoudi’s arrest is part of a larger Justice Department investigation of terrorism funding focused on Saudi-backed Islamic foundations and businesses based in Herndon, Va. A so-called “moderate,” Alamoudi is on record praising the terrorist group Hezbollah and proclaiming: “We are all followers of Hamas.”

Norquist’s lobbying firm is registered as a lobbyist for Alamoudi. Alamoudi provided seed money for Norquist’s Islamic Institute, which shares space with Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform group. The institute is run by Alamoudi deputy and former AMC government relations director Khaled Saffuri. Saffuri and Norquist have worked closely with Bush senior adviser Karl Rove to give radical Muslim activists access to the White House. No doubt because of their efforts, Alamoudi was invited to a White House prayer service after the Sept. 11 attacks.

If any Democrat activist had such shady connections, conservatives would be on him like white on rice. Instead, Norquist has gotten away with smearing his critics.

“The conservative movement cannot be associated with racism or bigotry,” Norquist lectured in a letter attacking Gaffney earlier this year. No, Mr. Norquist. The conservative movement cannot afford to be associated with race-card-playing apologists who refuse to cut their lucrative ties to terrorist sympathizers.

The Republican Party doesn’t need this Achilles’ heel. Take him away, Alec Baldwin, please.

Michelle Malkin can be reached by e-mail at malkin@comcast.net.



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1 posted on 10/22/2003 11:43:34 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Michelle.......

2 posted on 10/22/2003 11:44:29 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: kattracks
OK. Done drooling now...

Why can't they deport these traitors?

3 posted on 10/22/2003 11:54:22 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: RandallFlagg
We need a pic of Michelle, stat.

L

4 posted on 10/22/2003 11:55:22 PM PDT by Lurker (Some people say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I say there's no better time to do it.)
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To: kattracks
Just heard about Norquist today on Savage's show. It was news to me, but I am glad to have the information.
5 posted on 10/22/2003 11:55:50 PM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: Lurker
I have none. I'm stuck at work...
6 posted on 10/22/2003 11:56:37 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Libertina
Savage rules.
7 posted on 10/23/2003 12:03:39 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Hillary's book tour was a thermometer in the behinds of the Dim sheeple for a 2004 run.)
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To: kattracks
She's a hottie!
8 posted on 10/23/2003 12:06:19 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Libertina
Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Arab Americans cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida? Why do Republicans want to brand all Arab-Americans as terrorists or Satanists, or the like? Bush apparently doesn't share this desire - - and it's hard to blame him if they did indeed help put him in the White House.

If only Jewish Americans would start voting Republican in similar numbers! Bush is -- rightly -- a friend of Israel. It would be nice to see the monolothic Jewish support for left-wing Democrats start changing. But here on Freerepublic, it's not PC to say such a thing - - one can only rant and rave about Arabs.

9 posted on 10/23/2003 12:09:14 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Lurker
"We need a pic of Michelle, stat."

I second the motion. Michelle Malkin should be assigned the same protocol as The Blonde Goddess.

10 posted on 10/23/2003 12:09:45 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: kattracks
AMEN!

We are lucky to have Michelle on our side.....but then clear thinking is not the forte of the left!

11 posted on 10/23/2003 12:21:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Lurker

12 posted on 10/23/2003 12:27:42 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
Thank you!
13 posted on 10/23/2003 12:33:03 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: OldFriend
"We are lucky to have Michelle on our side....."

Hmmmm.

Anyway, Michelle's in a "family way" I heard her say.

14 posted on 10/23/2003 3:37:53 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: sauropod
print later
15 posted on 10/23/2003 5:26:20 AM PDT by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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To: FixitGuy
Mighty wholesome!
16 posted on 10/23/2003 5:33:41 AM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: RandallFlagg
American "Muslim" Council

The religion of peace
17 posted on 10/23/2003 5:35:14 AM PDT by AbsoluteJustice (Kiss me I'm an INFIDEL!!!!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Ah yes, her heinous' American Museum Council.........
18 posted on 10/23/2003 5:38:28 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Libertina
Just heard about Norquist today on Savage's show.

Yup, it will be very interesting to see how he reacts to this.

19 posted on 10/23/2003 5:48:15 AM PDT by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: FixitGuy

20 posted on 10/23/2003 5:48:22 AM PDT by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: petercooper

21 posted on 10/23/2003 5:56:35 AM PDT by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: petercooper
sorry
22 posted on 10/23/2003 5:57:00 AM PDT by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: All
I'm glad I'm not the only one drooling...
23 posted on 10/23/2003 6:53:29 AM PDT by mmandahl
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To: kattracks
Michelle turns me on. Her ideas, I mean. Very sexy writing too.
24 posted on 10/23/2003 7:36:04 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Red Sox in 2004)
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To: All
Our side couldn't be any better stocked than to have the likes of Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin working for us. I heard Ann on the radio the other day and she said she thrives on jabs from the left because all they do is expose themselves. She also said she works for herself and as long as people buy and read her books, she will continue to do this. Michelle is the same and we are lucky to have both. They are both hotties!!!!!!!!!
25 posted on 10/23/2003 7:39:16 AM PDT by cousair
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To: churchillbuff
Why do Republicans want to brand all Arab-Americans as terrorists or Satanists, or the like?

Nobody on this thread has done so. But Norquist's activist pals are pretty sketchy to say the least. The AMC and NCPPF, as you can read in the article, are both founded by terrorists/sympathizers. Many of the activist Arab groups do not attempt to hit their anti-Semitism; they should rightly be condemned along with all other racist groups.

Doesn't mean that Ahmed from down the street is a terrorist, and Malkin didn't say so.

26 posted on 10/23/2003 7:43:21 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Red Sox in 2004)
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To: churchillbuff
Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Arab Americans cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida?

You must remember that the source for this "fact" is none other than Grover Nordquisling himself!

As a Floridian who worked for Bush at Ground Zero in Palm Beach during Election 2000, I can tell you with great certaintly that the difference in that election was the Florida Chapter of FR - not Nordquisling!

Yes, you may quote me as the primary source for this "fact" as I was there.

OK, OK, perhaps a bit of hyperbole but I must say that I never did see Grover down there in Florida during that period of time.

Maybe, he was vacationing in Saudi Arabia at the time!

27 posted on 10/23/2003 8:17:52 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I love him too (usually) :)
28 posted on 10/23/2003 9:30:59 AM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: churchillbuff
I agree with you about the Jewish vote. It's difficult for me to understand how a segment of the population could vote for those who support their enemies. But I think it is just a liberal trait. Liberals in American still don't believe that "they" would be targeted by terrorists - only bad conservatives. In fact, after September 11th, one lib commented that the terrorists didn't even hit the "right" people. Just clueless.
29 posted on 10/23/2003 9:35:35 AM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: churchillbuff
Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Arab Americans cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida? Why do Republicans want to brand all Arab-Americans as terrorists or Satanists, or the like? Bush apparently doesn't share this desire - - and it's hard to blame him if they did indeed help put him in the White House.
Norquist sees that Muslim-Americans are indeed natural allies of the GOP and conservatives. For the most part they are small entrepreneurs, more willing to work long hours than depend on handouts. They are also socially conservative. As for their religion, even the most devout chose to live in America for a reason, and more often than not that reason is a distaste for Islamic governance. There's a reason the 911 hijackers avoided Muslim-American communities: they would not have blended in.

Unfortunately there are those who, for whatever reason, hate Islam in general, and their views have gained some ground in the conservative community, to our potential electoral detriment. Norquist has been fighting this, and now the Islamophobes are targetting him.

It amazes me sometimes that those who were so willing to trust President Bush regarding Iraq (as I was) are not only unwilling to trust him but are quite willing to assign him nefarious motives regarding Islam in general, the West Bank/Gaza, and now Grover Norquist.

-Eric

30 posted on 10/23/2003 9:47:16 AM PDT by E Rocc (Collectivism is to freedom as raw sewage is to fresh water.)
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To: E Rocc
It amazes me sometimes that those who were so willing to trust President Bush regarding Iraq (as I was) are not only unwilling to trust him but are quite willing to assign him nefarious motives regarding Islam in general, the West Bank/Gaza, and now Grover Norquist.

Well said! One gets the impression from some folks around here that Bush is to be considered a traitor if he doesn't automatically treat Arabs like traitors. This kind of reflexive group-hate mentality led to the internment camps, in which a lot of loyal Americans spent four years merely because they were of Japanese extraction.

31 posted on 10/23/2003 9:51:04 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Well said! One gets the impression from some folks around here that Bush is to be considered a traitor if he doesn't automatically treat Arabs like traitors. This kind of reflexive group-hate mentality led to the internment camps, in which a lot of loyal Americans spent four years merely because they were of Japanese extraction.
Also, such demonization of entire ethnic/religious groups is a twisted form of collectivism. I've always considered both conservatism and libertarianism to be ideologies that rejected all forms of collective judgement in favor of each individual standing on his or her own merits.

-Eric

32 posted on 10/23/2003 10:13:45 AM PDT by E Rocc (Collectivism is to freedom as raw sewage is to fresh water.)
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To: churchillbuff
Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Arab Americans cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida?

Pollster John Zogby says there is not a great deal of information on Muslim voting, but "my data indicates that it was tilted Democratic in 2000. It went more for Gore and Nader than for Bush." Michael Barone, author of the authoritative Almanac of American Politics, argues that it is impossible to draw an accurate picture of Muslim voters, given the lack of exit-poll information. As for the claim that Muslims gave Bush his winning margin, Barone says simply, "Any 538 voters in Florida can claim credit for winning the presidency for Bush."

it's not PC to say such a thing - - one can only rant and rave about Arabs.

I've seen that commented on often, both on FR and on Little Green Footballs, a decidedly pro-Jewish/anti-Muslim site. The same (decidedly Democratic) can be said of the Catholic vote.

As far as ranting and raving about Arabs, you're painting with a mighty big brush here. The majority of Muslims worldwide are not Arabs, and the majority of Americans of Arab descent are Christian, and not Muslim, as the inaptly named Arab-American League would have you believe.

Norquist is not courting Arabs, he is courting Muslims, including organizations with questionable motives and activities, and Muslim leaders, such as the two that are currently under arrest. He used Al-Arian and his brother-in-law as poster boys against "secret evidence" in the '90's: one has since been deported and the other is in jail for leading the U.S. branch of Islamic Jihad. The Islamic Institute, which Norquist co-founded with Suffari (who used to work for Alamoudi), accepted a $10,000 gift and a $10,000 loan from Alamoudi, an avowed Hamas and Hezbollah supporter who is now in jail for attempting to smuggle money into Syria, and is suspected of recruiting militant Islamics for the U.S. Chaplain Corps.

I really thought that once Norquist's Muslim pals (who've been under investigation for years) got nabbed, he'd put a lid on it. Instead, he throws in his lot with Alex Baldwin and assorted other Bush-bashing malcontents.

The man is either unbalanced, dangerous, or both.

33 posted on 10/23/2003 2:06:30 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
As far as ranting and raving about Arabs, you're painting with a mighty big brush here. The majority of Muslims worldwide are not Arabs, and the majority of Americans of Arab descent are Christian, and not Muslim, as the inaptly named Arab-American League would have you believe.

No, it's too many of my fellow conservatives who paint with too broad a broad brush. The distinctions you point out are nearly never noted in the, yes, anti ARAB ranting that is a fixture of talk radio and of some other conservative sounding boards. For instance, Saddam (obviously a vile chap) is regularly talked about as if he was an orthodox Muslim of the same stripe as Al Queda-- when, as I understand it, he is/was a secularist and therefore hated by the fundamentalists. Yet it's constantly said that the war on Saddam was part of the war on Islamists.

You have to acknowledge that Islam is being condemned by many conservatives as a monolithic, undifferentiated force that hates America through and through - - - as if this also applies, necessarily, to Muslims who live down the street. Bush isn't buying that, so does it make me a dupe or traitor to share his skepticism?

Nor am I retracting my hope that Jewish Americans in genuinely significant numbers will at some point abandon their rigid Democratic allegiance - - - which, contrary to your statement, is far, far more predominent (about 80 percent or above pro-Dem, I believe) than whatever overall Democratic leanings still exist in today's Catholic community (didn't Catholics pretty much split evenly or at most 60-40, btw Gore and Bush?). Unfortunately, I'm not as confident as many freepers that Bush's (correct) pro-Israel stance is going to wean significant numbers of Jews from left-liberalism; Nixon's strong pro-Israel stance didn't, nor did Reagan's.

34 posted on 10/23/2003 3:35:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
From the Wall Street Journal, 11 June 2003:

In Washington, the Islamic Institute has helped furnish Muslim support for various Bush administration causes. After Sept. 11, 2001, Mr. Saffuri, wrote a paper justifying U.S. military action during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Mr. Norquist passed along the document to the White House National Security Council. A senior administration official says it was used in developing talking points by U.S. officials defending the U.S. attack on Afghanistan.

That's not my idea of a Wahabbi Lobby. The folks attacking Norquist et. al really don't seem to think Muslims should be involved in American politics. Why on earth do we have the First Amendment, then?
35 posted on 10/24/2003 9:22:41 AM PDT by our constitution
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To: kattracks; oldglory; Luke FReeman; MinuteGal; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather
Norquist also on the Saudi payroll???? It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

As Mark Stein pointed out, there are a LOT of people in our government (Wilson, for instance) on their payroll (See excerpt of his article below). It isn't much of a stretch to figure that people like Scott Ritter and those starting up this new radio network are pay-rolled by them, too.

Mark Steyn: With friends like the Saudis . . .
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | October 19 2003 | Mark Steyn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003888/posts

Excerpt:

....That would also include the pro-Saudi Middle East Institute, whose "adjunct scholar" is one Joseph C. Wilson IV.

Remember him? He's the fellow at the center of the Bob-Novak-published-the-name-of-my-CIA-wife scandal.

The agency sent him to look into the European intelligence stories about Saddam Hussein trying to buy uranium in Africa. He went to Niger, drank mint tea with government flacks, and then wrote a big whiny piece in the New York Times after the White House declined to accept his assurances there was nothing going on.

He was never an intelligence specialist, he's no longer a "career diplomat," but he is, like so many other retired ambassadors, on the House of Saud's payroll.

And the Saudis were vehemently opposed to war with Saddam.

Think about that. To investigate Saddam's attempted acquisition of uranium, the United States government sent a man in the pay of the Saudi government.

The Saudis set up schools that turn out terrorists.

They set up Islamic lobby groups that put spies in our military bases and terror recruiters in our prisons.

They set up think tanks that buy up and neuter the U.S. diplomatic corps.

And their ambassador's wife funnels charitable donations to the 9/11 hijackers.

36 posted on 10/24/2003 9:34:09 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Seeking the truth
Hmmm....
37 posted on 10/24/2003 2:19:56 PM PDT by abner (In search of a witty tag line...)
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To: our constitution
"That's not my idea of a Wahabbi Lobby. The folks attacking Norquist et. al really don't seem to think Muslims should be involved in American politics. Why on earth do we have the First Amendment, then?"

Muslims should not be involved in American politics for the same reason people don't keep rattlesnakes for house pets. The radical extremism of Muslims is the reason we have the Patriot Act, whose function is to keep these radicals from hiding behind the very civil and constitutional proctections that they seek to destroy for everyone else.

38 posted on 10/27/2003 6:43:40 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Great. You wait until Hillary Clinton is appointed Attorney General by the next Democrat president. Some pro-life fanatic will kill some abortionist, and she'll label it "terrorism." Before you know it, pro-lifers in prayer vigils outside of clinics will have their phones bugged by the FBI under warrants signed by Clinton-era judges.

Hooray for the Patriot Act! Hooray for RICO!
39 posted on 10/27/2003 2:02:45 PM PST by our constitution
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To: our constitution
I didn't say I like the Patriot Act, I said that is the reason they claim to need it.
40 posted on 10/27/2003 4:24:18 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: FixitGuy
so that's what a bigot looks like -- thanks.
41 posted on 10/28/2003 7:48:48 AM PST by Frankie Fiveangels
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To: MissAmericanPie
thank you so much for showing how bigots like you can corrupt the american political system... the constitution does not have a religious test -- why should you?
42 posted on 10/28/2003 7:51:14 AM PST by Frankie Fiveangels
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To: Frankie Fiveangels
Are you a worshipper at the throne of diversity or just too ignorant to recognize that you have finally ran into something so diverse as to be totally incompatible with a free society?

I don't call cultists religious, I call them fanatical and that is what Islam is. It is anything their local cleric tells them it is, peaceful or violent. And even if their cleric preaches peace, it is understood that a member is not to condemn other members of the cult for their acts of violence. American citizens have yet to hear any outright condemnation of radical islamists from the supposed "main body" of their cult, not in this country, or anywhere else in the world.

President Bush was saying in his news conference today that he was asked by muslims at a recent meeting why everyone in American thinks they are terrorists, and he stated that most Americans don't feel that way. He's wrong, most Americans are smart enough to know that those who hold to a skizoid book like the Koran and donate to terrorist organizations are terrorist enablers, and as President Bush himself said, they are therefore terrorists themselves. Muslims tore the streets up in cities all across America celebrating the death and destruction of the twin towers on 9-11, and many of us are not about to forget it.

Bush had to rush to be on tv that night, tip toeing in his stocking feet into a mosque, surrounded by the heads of terrorist charity fronts, to save their sorry rear ends from angry Americans by admonishing the populace, still reeling from the worst attack on America in it's history, that Islam is a religion of peace. And that brings up the celebrations in Mexico, with vendors hawking Ben Laden masks and t-shirts and partying in the streets, while the majority of them slip into this nation to take advantage of the U.S. governments mistreatment of it's own citizens and some of us are not about to forget that either.

Am I a bigot to recognize my enemies? If so then I wear the badge with a great deal of pride.
43 posted on 10/28/2003 11:04:44 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: E Rocc
There's a reason the 911 hijackers avoided Muslim-American communities: they would not have blended in.

Hogwash. You'll have to have to produce some powerful evidence to get me to believe that.

Unfortunately there are those who, for whatever reason, hate Islam in general, and their views have gained some ground in the conservative community, to our potential electoral detriment.

Quiz time...

Q: Of the 9/11 hijackers, how many were Muslim?

A: All.

Q: Of the 9/11 hijackers, how many were Saudis?

A: 15.

Hence, we should be cracking down on white Buddists, like Richard Gere. Right?

Norquist has been fighting this, and now the Islamophobes are targetting him.

You're blowing "diversity" and "tolerance" hot air. Norquist is only fighting to keep his Saudi and Libyan funds from drying up.

Remember, the last three wars we've fought have been against Islamic forces. The overall war on terror is against Islamic forces. This is not about any phobia -- the facts are what they are.

44 posted on 12/11/2003 7:14:41 AM PST by JCG
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To: Victoria Delsoul; Pokey78; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; rdb3; mhking; BOBTHENAILER; Marine Inspector; ...

Late flag to this...

    

Michelle
Malkin
Growl!



Post here to the thread if you'd like to be on the Michelle Malkin list.

45 posted on 12/11/2003 8:31:41 AM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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To: kattracks
Did I ever post the I am deeply in love w/ Michelle? I know she would feel the same about me if she would only meet me. I don't know why she won't return my calls.
46 posted on 12/11/2003 8:49:32 AM PST by putupon ( I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: churchillbuff
Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Arab Americans cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida?

You could say the same thing of any and every majority Republican-voting group in Florida. Let's try this one on for size: Is it true, as I've seen reported, that Christian Evangelicals cast a majority of their votes for Bush in 2000 -- a number that might have been the difference in his winning Florida?

And the answer is ... Yes!

Why do Republicans want to brand all Arab-Americans as terrorists or Satanists, or the like?

Because they worship the religion of terror/Satan?

Bush apparently doesn't share this desire - - and it's hard to blame him if they did indeed help put him in the White House.

Bush can't say publicly what he thinks of Islam, because he figured out immediately (no thanks to Grover Norquist or Karl Rove) that waging the War on Terror has required that we get some Muslims to help us rout other Muslims. But even in those Muslim countries that have given us some support, most of the people hate us.

If only Jewish Americans would start voting Republican in similar numbers!

True. But that is changing, because of a combination of Bush's positives (which include education, as well as support of Israel) and Dem anti-Semitism.

Bush is -- rightly -- a friend of Israel. It would be nice to see the monolothic Jewish support for left-wing Democrats start changing. But here on Freerepublic, it's not PC to say such a thing - - one can only rant and rave about Arabs.

Let's see -- who was it that attacked us on 911, and who cheered the attacks 'round the world?

47 posted on 12/11/2003 6:24:17 PM PST by mrustow
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To: churchillbuff
First, define "majority" of Arab Americans that supported Bush in 2000? 50%...55%?

The "rest" are probably terrorist sympathizers and conspirators that use our own kindness and stupidity to kill us.

Boy, I bet if Norquist was hanging around the KKK, people like you would have a fit. But if he's hanging around radical Islamists that help, fund and support terrorism, you want to give him an award because they have cute names like CAIR.

48 posted on 12/11/2003 6:40:27 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Libertina
Jewish vote, Catholic vote, black vote, female vote...why do any of these "groups" support Democrats that lie and stab them in the back.

I'm smart enough not to vote for Republicans that stab me in the back (which means not voting or writing my own name in).
49 posted on 12/11/2003 6:42:05 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: E Rocc
Norquist sees that Muslim-Americans are indeed natural allies of the GOP and conservatives. For the most part they are small entrepreneurs, more willing to work long hours than depend on handouts. They are also socially conservative.

What ridiculously broad statements. Another "monolith" group that all think alike according to you and Norquist's definition.

What about all of the Muslim-Americans that are pulling the wool over peoples eyes and are in bed with the Islamic fanatics? What about those that get support from the so-called "mainstream" mosques and groups?

Open your eyes. Go read Gaffney's article.

50 posted on 12/11/2003 6:44:56 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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